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So those that are going med free....if you test positive for Group B Strep...you are  just going to deny the antibotics? I am not attacking, just asking.
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  • Why would we deny the med's if we were positive just because we don't want an epi?? Sorry but I just don't get the correlation.
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  • imageNewYorkerinAZ:
    Why would we deny the med's if we were positive just because we don't want an epi?? Sorry but I just don't get the correlation.

    I was simply asking since some people have babies at home, and I wondered what they do in that situation? Like I said, not attacking, just asking because I am curious what the limitations of med free mean for you guys.

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  • I can't speak for anyone who has had a baby at home, but I also don't see the correlation.  Going "med-free" doesn't mean putting the baby's or your own life in danger. GBS antibiotic is a necessity (as far as I know) while an Epi is not. 
  • imageCandiceNT:

    imageNewYorkerinAZ:
    Why would we deny the med's if we were positive just because we don't want an epi?? Sorry but I just don't get the correlation.

    I was simply asking since some people have babies at home, and I wondered what they do in that situation? Like I said, not attacking, just asking because I am curious what the limitations of med free mean for you guys.

    Med-free to me is free of pain meds. Antiobiotics so the baby doesn't get Strep B is a totally different story. I would never jeapordize my child in that way.

    I'm not sure what they do if you have the baby at home. Maybe the MW brings an IV with the antibiotic to the home??

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  • imageNewYorkerinAZ:
    imageCandiceNT:

    imageNewYorkerinAZ:
    Why would we deny the med's if we were positive just because we don't want an epi?? Sorry but I just don't get the correlation.

    I was simply asking since some people have babies at home, and I wondered what they do in that situation? Like I said, not attacking, just asking because I am curious what the limitations of med free mean for you guys.

    Med-free to me is free of pain meds. Antiobiotics so the baby doesn't get Strep B is a totally different story. I would never jeapordize my child in that way.

    I'm not sure what they do if you have the baby at home. Maybe the MW brings an IV with the antibiotic to the home??

    See...I am just curious Embarrassed

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  • The author of a blog that I read had a home birth last year.  If I remember correctly, if she had tested positive, she would have had to go to the hospital.  There were specific criteria that had to be met in order for her to have the home birth she wanted. 


  • I think I speak for the majority when I say that if it is for the benefit of the Baby and Mom, medications are a no-brainer.  Even home birth Momma's have testing done for things like GBS and take the meds necessary.  Just to clear something up, for those that may not know, a home birth doesn't mean you're giving birth in a cave in the middle of nowhere.  It is common for midwives to bring with them things like oxygen, IV and even pitocin.  If you are interested in learning more about natural childbirth (or home birthing) I suggest reading Ina May's Guide to Childbirth or watching The Business of Being Born.  The main topic of conversation in both is home birthing, and of course the film is a one-sided documentary, but they do present very clearly the reasoning behind and the methods that go with un-medicated birthing.  

    When I talk med-free, I mean unnecessary medications that would be taken to alleviate pain, or induce a labour that would naturally progress on it's own.   :)  

    Hope that helps! 

  • I'm glad Candice is asking these questions because these are things I've been wondering, but was always afraid to ask. I never understood wanting to go without meds, but I'm also a complete wuss! Good for you guys for being able to do, but I don't have the confidence in myself to do it.
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  • imagejayefay:


    I think I speak for the majority when I say that if it is for the benefit of the Baby and Mom, medications are a no-brainer.  Even home birth Momma's have testing done for things like GBS and take the meds necessary.  Just to clear something up, for those that may not know, a home birth doesn't mean you're giving birth in a cave in the middle of nowhere.  It is common for midwives to bring with them things like oxygen, IV and even pitocin.  If you are interested in learning more about natural childbirth (or home birthing) I suggest reading Ina May's Guide to Childbirth or watching The Business of Being Born.  The main topic of conversation in both is home birthing, and of course the film is a one-sided documentary, but they do present very clearly the reasoning behind and the methods that go with un-medicated birthing.  

    When I talk med-free, I mean unnecessary medications that would be taken to alleviate pain, or induce a labour that would naturally progress on it's own.   :)  

    Hope that helps! 

    As always Jaye very well put.  To me it is a no brainer that if something is wrong health wise with me or with my baby I would do/get anything to remedy that situation but I will not however get pain meds so that I don't feel any pain in having my child. 

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  • imagekristie2422:
    I'm glad Candice is asking these questions because these are things I've been wondering, but was always afraid to ask. I never understood wanting to go without meds, but I'm also a complete wuss! Good for you guys for being able to do, but I don't have the confidence in myself to do it.

    Ask away!  Seriously!  

    My thing is, I love having the discussions with people (as long as they aren't judgemental) but I am so not the type that brings it up on my own, or really mentions it unless I'm asked directly.  I've had people come straight up and tell me "You're going to LOVE your epidural."  I smile and keep my mouth shut.  For the most part the reactions I get to going med-free are repulsive so it turns me off from speaking up.   But I love answering questions about it!

  • imagekristie2422:
    I'm glad Candice is asking these questions because these are things I've been wondering, but was always afraid to ask. I never understood wanting to go without meds, but I'm also a complete wuss! Good for you guys for being able to do, but I don't have the confidence in myself to do it.

    Ditto...I thought people were going to jump down my throat, but I wanted to ask anyways. Med free is something I would never do, but just curious questions I have about it for those that choose that route Smile

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  • imagejayefay:

    Ask away!  Seriously!  

    My thing is, I love having the discussions with people (as long as they aren't judgemental) but I am so not the type that brings it up on my own, or really mentions it unless I'm asked directly.  I've had people come straight up and tell me "You're going to LOVE your epidural."  I smile and keep my mouth shut.  For the most part the reactions I get to going med-free are repulsive so it turns me off from speaking up.   But I love answering questions about it!

    And I always hate when I come across the med free person who then yells at me for taking drugs! I do the same thing just smile and say "maybe next time." Although next time will be a c section so I don't have that option. I really wish I could have done it drug free.

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  • imagekristie2422:
    imagejayefay:

    Ask away!  Seriously!  

    My thing is, I love having the discussions with people (as long as they aren't judgemental) but I am so not the type that brings it up on my own, or really mentions it unless I'm asked directly.  I've had people come straight up and tell me "You're going to LOVE your epidural."  I smile and keep my mouth shut.  For the most part the reactions I get to going med-free are repulsive so it turns me off from speaking up.   But I love answering questions about it!

    And I always hate when I come across the med free person who then yells at me for taking drugs! I do the same thing just smile and say "maybe next time." Although next time will be a c section so I don't have that option. I really wish I could have done it drug free.

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  • imagekristie2422:
    imagejayefay:

    Ask away!  Seriously!  

    My thing is, I love having the discussions with people (as long as they aren't judgemental) but I am so not the type that brings it up on my own, or really mentions it unless I'm asked directly.  I've had people come straight up and tell me "You're going to LOVE your epidural."  I smile and keep my mouth shut.  For the most part the reactions I get to going med-free are repulsive so it turns me off from speaking up.   But I love answering questions about it!

    And I always hate when I come across the med free person who then yells at me for taking drugs! I do the same thing just smile and say "maybe next time." Although next time will be a c section so I don't have that option. I really wish I could have done it drug free.

    The sucky thing is, there are always going to be people who judge without knowing (on both sides of the coin)...There are definite walls built up between women, and it's just plain sad.  I think it's ridiculous for anyone to put themselves on a pedestal and claim they are better than someone else for how they birthed their child.   

    I do what's right for me, and you do what's right for you.  As long as you aren't harming yourself or your child, why does it matter?  

    Feel free to not be attacked for asking here. 

  • I'm assuming Candice meant that especially with home births you don't typically see women hooked up to an IV, so how would they get the antibiotics? Isn't that one of the benefits of home birthing/med free? To be free to move around without being hooked up to an IV, etc? I watched The Business of Being Born (didn't like it, thought it was VERY one sided and some of the stuff they said was quite ridiculous, IMO) and other birthing shows where they went au natural, and I didn't notice a lot of those women with IV's. They were mostly walking around freely, getting in showers, tubs, etc.
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  • imageMrslovebugs:
    I'm assuming Candice meant that especially with home births you don't typically see women hooked up to an IV, so how would they get the antibiotics? Isn't that one of the benefits of home birthing/med free? To be free to move around without being hooked up to an IV, etc? I watched The Business of Being Born (didn't like it, thought it was VERY one sided and some of the stuff they said was quite ridiculous, IMO) and other birthing shows where they went au natural, and I didn't notice a lot of those women with IV's. They were mostly walking around freely, getting in showers, tubs, etc.

    Depending on the state laws and the certification of the MW, IV fluids for hydration and/or medication can be administered.  Unless there is a problem though, they won't be used.  So that would be why you don't often see it being the case.  In hospital, a lot of the time you'll be hooked up for fluids regardless of if you need it or not, so at home you wouldn't have that.  If you needed it though, it can be done since it's part of what the MW brings with her.

  • I really liked The Business of Being Born. I thought it was informative and yes it was one sided, but they were trying to prove a point. However, the fact that the producer herself was smart enough to know when she's supposed to seek hospital care was important for the documentary. Yes Ricki Lake has her baby in her bathtub, but the producer had complications and was rushed to a hospital which she totally was ok with. That says a lot. 

    I had a hospital birth naturally.  I had an IV hooked up to my arm, but it wasn't attached to anything. My midwife told me it's for use later to help bleeding stop.  It didn't bother me at all.  

    By the way... I can't help but feel attacked when people question my choice to have a natural birth. I don't attack anyone for choosing to have an epi, so I'm not sure why it's an issue for others when I choose not to. I'm not saying any of you have "attacked," but just yesterday, I was told I was an idiot for wanting to be in pain. I have a SUPER low tolerance for pain. A paper cut can make me cry. I'm serious. So not having an epi does NOT equal, "I want the pain." It just means that the research I've done has given me enough strength to choose what's right for ME. 

  • well that depends.

    If I was at the hospital no, I wouldn't deny them, I wouldn't put my DC at risk because of that.

    Having an IV of antibiotics doesn't have anything to do with no PAIN meds which is what people who go med free are looking for ( as well as avoiding pitocin because it makes the contrax much worse)

    since I was at home if I had tested GBS positive (which I didn't praise God) I would have either A) seen a naturopath for Antibiotics from then till birth or done a Hibiclens wash

    ETA: Hibiclens is  the same stuff that Surgeons use to scrub their arms/hands before surgery, it kills all things bad. You would do a vaginal wash starting before your water broke if you went that route. Or like I said Antibiotics from the naturopath

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  • Also, my HBMW who is a CPM (Certified professional midwife) meaning she went to school had to pass a certification exam etc.....

    brought along with everything else

    oxygen

    pitocin ( if needed to stop post partum bleeding/hemmorage)

    Herbal tinctures (to use before pitocin)

    and a bunch of other medical stuff (that I don't remember right now because I was in labor)

    GBS+ doesn't mean you HAVE to go to the hospital that may be the case in SOME other states but like I said in my post above there are other ways to treat it.

    In AZ if baby is Breech, twins, before 36 weeks or past 42 weeks you cannot have a homebirth

    I love that people are asking questions- I'd rather get truth out there from my experience with homebirth then have people think things that aren't true. So please feel free to keep asking questions

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  • I don't have anything to add about the topic, but wanted to say I really appreciate the dialogue. I love that people can have intelligent conversation to educate themselves on a topic. (I hope that wasn't hallmark-ish).
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  • imageMrs*U:
    So not having an epi does NOT equal, "I want the pain." It just means that the research I've done has given me enough strength to choose what's right for ME.

    I really like this statement :)

     I also don't understand med free births, but only because I had the most intervention-intensive pregnancy and delivery situation of anybody I've ever talked to, and all three of us would have died if it hadn't happened exactly the way it did.  The concept of a med-free or home delivery is utterly foriegn to me. In my world, giving birth in a hospital hooked up to dozens of drugs = life saving.  Having a med free, midwife-attended birth (either in a hospital, in a birthing center or at home) was never an option for us.

    But if I had had a normal, complication-free pregnancy, I probably would have gone med-free. My mom delivered my siblings and me without meds and there is no way in hell I could ever let her show me up!

  • imageMrs. Destructo:

    no way in hell I could ever let her show me up! 

     

    LMAO!!!!!!!!!  

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