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Brother issues

Hey everyone, looking for some advice opinions please be brutally honest. I'm having issues with my brother. Ill start by saying I have a four year old and my brother was never really involved with her. My brother and I are close or so I thought. But the thing is he doesn't follow through on the little things. My daughter asked him to fix her rocking horse a year and a half ago and we are still waiting for him to do it...she insists that her uncle will do it and won't let my husband or I fix it. This isn't the main thing but just an example of how unreliable he is. He just had a baby 2 months ago whom I go out of my way to build a bond with I want my niece to know I am and always will be there for her. About 3 months ago my brother borrowed money from me telling me it was for his mortgage I later found out it was to get a vehicle that isn't even on the road out of hock because he didn't bother to move it from his apartment when he bought his new house. I loaned him 200$ he paid me back 80$ about a month and a half ago but never anymore. Last week we went to my uncles on vacation. It was free for my bro to stay as we let him and his dam use the cottage because of the new baby. My husbAnd and I paid for a hotel for the week. My uncle cooks dinner most of the night and lunch too he goes all out cooking steaks and great meals for 11 people. My brother and I decided to buy and cook dinner one night for everyone. Keeping in mind we had been eating for free. My bro and his wife were at the grocery store the night before our meal and failed to pick up any of the ingredients we needed. My husband went the next day and bought everything we needed.we cooked dinner and it was great.however my brother didn't pay his half. I asked him for the money yesterday and he said "oh you need it today do ya" I said yes and he said "I'll see what I can scrounge up" I didn't hear from him yesterday or today :( he only owes me 150$ total but its the principal of it. My thoughts are don't borrow money if you can't pay it back and the avoidance is bothering me. I really don't think I should have to ask for it. I'm not sure how to deal with this and don't want it to be awkward while visiting my niece. And advice or opinions would really be appreciated! Thank you so much

Re: Brother issues

  • My thoughts are don't borrow money if you can't pay it back and the avoidance is bothering me.

    And the flip side to this is don't lend money if you expect it to be paid back.  I doubt that this is really the first time he's done this.  Sounds like he gets stuff handed to him, no one calls him on it, so he keeps doing it.

    And now that he has a kid and you're really focused on "our kids have to be close" - it sounds like you'll turn an even bigger blind eye to how he is all so that you can maintain this image of "oh, look how close we/ our kids are". 

    But really- it's kind of false, isn't it? 

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  • If you are that concerned with a good relationship between your children I would just let it go and cut your losses. I would never loan him money again and if he ask for it make him sign an promisary note. Or, if its the case where your going in together n something make him give half up front
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  • I follow Suze Orman's rule about lending money to family - never lend money to family, if you want to give them money give it as a gift.

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  • Don't lend him money and know he will never pay his half so stop expecting it. Also, stop trying to get him to be more of an Uncle than he is. He isn't going to follow through with money, promises or anything.

    When your daughter is asleep tonight fix the rocking horse and tell her Uncle came while she was asleep and fixed it. Or Tinkerbell did. Whatever you want.

    You can't force or make people be more than they are.
  • You need to step back.  You brother isn't who you want him to be so stop acting like he is. 

    Stop forcing a relationship with your daughter, some guys aren't good uncles, esp when kids are little, that is ok.

    For heavens sake stop giving him money, or handouts.  He doesn't appreciate it a will not pay you back. 

  • TXFrank said:

    I follow Suze Orman's rule about lending money to family - never lend money to family, if you want to give them money give it as a gift.

    THIS! THIS! THIS! NEVER loan money to family!!!! NEVER!! If you have it and can afford to never see it again, give it to them. NEVER LOAN IT!!!
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  • My thoughts are....Don't "lend" money to people you know aren't going to come through and pay you back.
  • Agree. Don't ever give money unless its a gift. Don't expect it back. :(
  • I do think it sucks that your brother won't pay you back. But now you kind of know where you stand with him, right? It sounds like he's not super reliable. You probably won't get the money back, but now you know for the future. Don't loan him money, and don't expect him to be there for you and your family. I know how much it sucks when your relationship with someone isn't what you want it to be, but you can't force it. You can't change him, so you have to change your own expectations of him. I've been through this with my sister, and letting go of the "perfect sister" I wanted to have actually enabled me to enjoy the sister relationship I do have. You might have to do the same. Good luck!
  • Um, he didn't pay you back the first time, why would you expect him to the next time? Don't lend him money. 

    Some families aren't picture perfect, stop forcing your daughter on him. If he wants to be involved, then he will. 
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