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My husband is a SLOB!

My husband and I ended up living apart for about a year because he got a temporary job in another city and I couldn't find a job so we decided I would keep mine where we live.  We would visit from time to time while we were apart and our original place was always neat and clean, but I started to notice that his apartment was getting more and more messy.  He wouldn't clean and I would find food on plates in his living room, clothes all over ect.  So I started to tell him that I'm not going to drive up to his place util he cleans it up.  This worked, but now he is home, and he is a slob!  An example is that he used all the toilet paper on the roll and instead of throwing it away in the garbage can NEXT to the toilet, he left the empty roll on the floor, on the opposite side of the garbage. And another thing that has been driving me crazy about the bathroom (and it's stupid I know), is that he will take the garbage can, which is like a kitchen garbage with a lid because of our dogs, and he will pull it up to the toilet so that he can set his lap top on it while he uses the toilet, then he won't put it back... Our closets are in 2 different rooms, so I sort our clean laundry in to 2 differnt laundry baskets and his clothes sit in the laundry basket until next laundry day.  The other day I was cleaning up in the bedroom and I noticed a plate in there with stuck on food.  I was just dumbfounded to see it there.  I honestly feel that he is depressed because he lost his full time job and now is working a part time job.  But I can't take his messiness anymore!  I'm don't want to leave, I love him, but I just don't know how to get him to understand that he needs to pick up after himself.  I mean I had to put a rule down "No food in the bedroom", he is 33 years old!  I have tried to talk to him and say, I really need you to help me clean up the house, and he gets offended when I ask him to do something.  I'm to the point now that when I see something that he has messed up I get angry, and I yell at him.  I'm working on trying to remain calm with him, but I feel like he wants me to be his mother, out of anger I told him "the next time I get married, I'm going to get a wife"-of course this caused a big fight.  But I just don't feel like he is pulling his weight.  If I start to clean, he will start too, but I shouldn't  have to start to clean to get him to realize that something needs to be done!  I don't know what to do, have any of you gone through something like this?  How do you get your husband to help out more?

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Re: My husband is a SLOB!

  • edited August 2013
    I will bet you that this guy lived with his parents his entire life before he married you...

    And that his mother and father never let their little slobby prince lift a slobby finger. They did it all for him and hence YOUR problem:

    You married an entitled little slobby prince who wants you to be the Queen Mother 2.0.

    Let this slob walk in his squalor, sleep in his squalor and let him look at, and live in and put up with his own shit; his clothes, his laundry and whatever else he dirties up and abandons wherever he desires.

    That's right:

    Do NOTHING for him.

    Leave his filthy everything where it is. If HE wants it clean, HE will take care of it.

    THis is why we had chores when we were pre teens and then teens! We picked up after ourselves and did what we had to do --- this is whee parents are blowing it all to hell: NOBODY has the kids take care of things around the house and in their room -- and this is why so many women wind up marrying overgrown middleschoolers...

    And that is what your H is.

    Leave his mess and let him take care of it. Let him get the message. GL.
  • Actually, my husband didn't live with his parents when we were married.  He moved out when he was about 18, joined the Army and he was always clean when we first moved in together.  Him suddenly being a slob is what makes me think he is depressed.  But like I said, I'm still not really sure what to do.  I could try leaving his mess out, but I think that would make me go crazy.
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  • Hmmmm...Maybe living alone brought out his inner slob? Had he ever lived alone before? Not just military, but really alone?

    So, it sounds like you're working full time and he is working part time? In that case, he should be doing a good portion of the cleaning. I would start with not doing his laundry. Tell him he needs to do it. 

    What does he say when you ask him why he didn't throw away the tp roll or why he is leaving dishes around?
  • There are millions of logistical things to ease him into keeping the house closer to your comfort zone, but what I'm hearing is more an issue of communication. Does he know how much this frustrates you? How much it keeps you in a place of constant stress when you're in your home (and possibly even away)? Does he care? I don't want plates of food in my bedroom, but some people (including some women) don't care. It's their 'sloppiness style' and they're comfortable that way.

    He may be depressed and you should be able to talk about that and address it with a doctor. He also may just have a much sloppier personal living style than you, and that's where the communication will be vital. 

    Would you live like this forever? Would you actually divorce him if this never changed? Is it that important to you? There are ways to convey this without it being an ultimatum or 'dramatic wife crazy' moment. 

    Also, big changes in cleaning style take months to change. Possibly longer. Even if he really hears you and commits to things changing give him some slack to implement and get used to the new lifestyle.
  • I have talked to him about it, and he knows I don't like it.  He will even say to me "I'm too tired to get up, I'll do this late" to which I say "if you do it now, you won't have to get up and do it later" or "are you really going to do it?  Or are you just going to leave it there?"

    I have also talked to him about being depressed and he gets defensive.  Would I divorce him, I don't know, if it turns into a hoarders situation, yes, I would (hope it doesn't get that far), but I do love him.  I have tried to do things where I put his messes in his way so that he HAS to pick them up, but that seems sort of petty and passive.  And because of it feeling that way to me, I'm just not sure if I should keep doing it...

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  • I have talked to him about it, and he knows I don't like it.  He will even say to me "I'm too tired to get up, I'll do this late" to which I say "if you do it now, you won't have to get up and do it later" or "are you really going to do it?  Or are you just going to leave it there?"

    This could sound naggy to him. I don't know. I'm not there! But to get through to my husband and make substantial changes I had to put it in terms he could understand. I am anxious when the house is cluttered and dirty. I am actively uncomfortable in my own home when it's in that state. For us to live together happily I needed him to hear that, then care enough about me and my sanity to be willing to try to change. It took several months and several conversations before I could articulate how I felt well enough, and we could find the practical solutions that work for both of us. Ultimately, he wants me to be happy and feel relaxed in our home, so he is willing to change his habits. Not because I act like his mother or do petty things like put his dirty clothes on his side of the bed, but because we could discuss it like adults who really love each other and want the best for each other.

    There were other issues in our relationship that he laid out where he needed me to make changes so he could get his needs met. This is a two-way street and we both had to be mature and aware enough to make progress without being childish.
  • I like pp's approach. I also think you should try actually sitting down and talking to him seriously about this, but do it at a time when you're NOT upset. Make sure it's a friendly, loving discussion, not a blaming one. Try to joke around a little. Ask him to help you come up with a solution to the problem, so he gets involved. Make a list together of what needs to get done. Ask him what he hates doing the most, and see if it's something you're willing to do, if he takes something else he doesn't mind doing, It's tough and will take work, but I've been slowly working with my DH and he's improved. You may just need to start with a few key things (the ones that drive you the most crazy) and go gradually from there. I hate having dirty bathrooms and DH doesn't care, so we agreed that I'd clean them if he always does compost stuff (which I hate). Make it seem more like teamwork and you won't feel like his mom! Good luck!!
  • I agree with pps exactly. Communication is the key. Might I also say that I love the phrase, "dramatic wife crazy" moment. :)

    June 29, 2013

  • anssett, I will def. try again to sit down with him and make a list of things that need to be done and tell him that it makes me feel anxious and like I can't relax at home.  Thank you for the good advice everyone!  I will try to sit down and have a talk with him this weekend and let things "settle" a little.  Hopefully that way he won't be defensive and I won't come across as his mother :)  Thanks again!
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  • anssett, I will def. try again to sit down with him and make a list of things that need to be done and tell him that it makes me feel anxious and like I can't relax at home.  Thank you for the good advice everyone!  I will try to sit down and have a talk with him this weekend and let things "settle" a little.  Hopefully that way he won't be defensive and I won't come across as his mother :)  Thanks again!
    I think this is a great idea. I'll tell ya, I had an ex who was truly a hoarder. It involved things coming into the home with no room for them and him getting angry if I moved his stuff. This was after he told me to clean the house if I didn't like how messy it was. I really think your situation is very different and you will be able to come to a solution.
  • Men do not respond to nagging, or frustrated complaints. They respond to cut and dry, direct conversation. So instead of "this place is a mess! I don't get why you don't get up now and pick this up" you needs to say "Babe, could you please make sure this table is cleared off for tomorrow? I need to use it when I get home. Thanks." If it is not done, then directly express your displeasure, like "I'm pretty disappointed that this didn't get done. Can you help me do it now?" If you notice that he isn't caring for himself or is becoming more and more isolated then I think he needs counseling or at least a hobby.
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