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Biting my tongue (FB related)

The other day, my sister posted on FB about a tv special she was watching about a local family that did IVF.  They transferred two embryos.  Each embryo split resulting in two sets of identical twins (quads!).  The mom is a fraternal twin herself and delivered them on her own birthday.  Very rare for both to split and very interesting.  That was essentially the point of my sister's post.

Most people responded with statements like "omg, crazy!" or "what a miracle".  One friend wrote:
"OMG, no wonder they're divorced. 4 children all at once?! We really need to stop messin' with Mother Nature. Did anyone think that the reason they were having troubles getting pregnant was bc Mother Nature didn't think they could love the little ones properly???? I don't know, taking the negative side on this one..."

Seriously???


Anyway, here's a link to an old article about their birth.  It's from 2004.  Sadly, the parents divorced in 2011.
http://articles.philly.com/2004-08-14/news/25392738_1_sets-of-identical-twins-quads-embryos





dx:  Unexplained IF (mild MFI)

 TTC since May 2011, 1 year trying, and then 3 TI, 2 IUI = BFN

IVF #1 (May 2013):  Antagonist Protocol: 
24R, 18M, 15F w/ICSI; 5dt of 2 early blasts, no frosties = BFN
IVF #2 (August 2013):  Lupron Stop Protocol: 
28R, 23M, 15F w/ICSI; 5dt of 1 partially hatched blast, 7 frosties = BFP
EDD 5/23/14, blighted ovum (6w6d), D&C (8w6d)
FET #1 (April 2014):  transferred 2 5d blasts = BFP

C.J. born 01/09/15

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Re: Biting my tongue (FB related)

  • I don't have enough sense to let that one slide.  What a horrible thing to say!

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  • I would not bite my tongue.  Could not.
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    wow I think thats really cool that both embryos split.

    It is sad the parents divorced though.

    I would probably have a hard time not saying something to that person!

  • Gross.  Some people have no filter.
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    February 2013: IUI #1 = BFN 
    October 2013: We made the decision to stop TTC and live without children.

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  • Yea I don't think I could let that one slide either.  WTF?
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    Clomid+IUI: Cancelled b/c didn't respond (June 2012)
    Femara+Trigger+IUI #1: BFN :-( (July 2013)
    Natural Cycle (8/7/13)- BFP!  Beta #1 (9/10/13): 509 Progesterone: 18.64  Beta #2 (9/12/13): 1118
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  • WTF?! You just don't say something like that!!
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    BFP #1: 11/9/13; spontaneous m/c at 6w2d, 11/25/13
    BFP #2: 12/31/13. B/w 12/31: betas >1000, progesterone 13.6; B/w 1/2: betas 3065, progesterone 10.2
    B/w 1/8: betas 17,345, progesterone 25.6
    Progesterone suppositories started 1/2. Please stick, baby!!
    Fiona Elise born 9/9/14 - welcome beautiful girl!
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  • yeah, wtf? People suck.
  • There's no way I would be able to bite my tongue.

    TTC since 1/13  DX:PCOS 5/13 (long, anovulatory cycles)
    Clomid 50mg 9/13 = BFP! EDD 6/7/14 M/C 5w6d Found 11/4/13
    1/14 PCOS / Gluten Free Diet to hopefully regulate my system. 
    Chemical Pregnancy 03/14
    Surprise BFP 6/14, Beta #1: 126 Beta #2: 340  Stick baby, stick! EDD 2/17/15
    Riley Elaine born 2/16/15

    TTC 2.0   6/15 
    Chemical Pregnancy 9/15 
    Chemical Pregnancy 6/16
    BFP 9/16  EDD 6/3/17
    Beta #1: 145 Beta #2: 376 Beta #3: 2,225 Beta #4: 4,548
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  • I would not bite my tongue at all.
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  • Yeah, I would be having a big ol' FB war with that moron.  By her reasoning, we should let people die of heart attacks because Mother Nature (did she mean God btw?) didn't invent CPR? Or we should let cancer patients suffer because MN didn't divinely intuit chemotherapy and radiology to us?  How dumb is she! 
    Diagnosed with Severe DOR at 31 years old (AMH .14 FSH 9.8) 
    D & L are here at 34 weeks 4 days by vaginal and breech delivery on 11/19/2013

  • I'm another one in the camp of saying something. That shit is notttttt okay.

    Cheering on all of my 3T ladies!  DX with PCOS - 11/2012 DH S/A & HSG - Normal - Too many rounds of Clomid = BFNs - New RE 5/2014 - Repeat Testing - Losing 40lbs before injects/IUI



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  • What the what? People are such assholes.  So "Mother Nature" lets other assholes, who abuse their children, become parents why? I just can't take the stupid.
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  • It just makes me sad that people actually feel that way. Like it actually kind of hurts.
    IUI - BFP! Baby boy born still - August 2012
    IVF - BFP - miscarriage June 2013
    FET - BFN
    FET - BFN
    Switched clinics
    IVF with PGD - three embryos created, all healthy - July 2014
    FET - transferred two embryos (boy and girl) - Nov 2014 - BFP!
    Baby Boy born July 2015

  • I would say something. I am getting worse and worse at biting my tongue.

    Married August 2009

    3 years. 5 losses.

    Our rainbow baby boy born 11.16.15

  • I would also say something. My therapist would say, "Unfortunately, it's your job to educate people around you who don't get it and say hurtful things."
    TTC #1 since Feb. '12. dx: "unexplained" IF
    After 2 shitty IVF cycles and 1 loss at 6+2 (EDD 11/7/14), DH and I are pursuing DIA.
    11/17/2014 - ACTIVE AND WAITING!
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  • Wow, I agree with PPs. I would definitely have to say something on that one.

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    Cycles 1-9: BFN
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    EDD: June 25, 2014
    Baby Girl born via induction June 26, 2014

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  • I would also say something. My therapist would say, "Unfortunately, it's your job to educate people around you who don't get it and say hurtful things."
    Unfortunately, there is nothing I can say that will actually educate this person.





    dx:  Unexplained IF (mild MFI)

     TTC since May 2011, 1 year trying, and then 3 TI, 2 IUI = BFN

    IVF #1 (May 2013):  Antagonist Protocol: 
    24R, 18M, 15F w/ICSI; 5dt of 2 early blasts, no frosties = BFN
    IVF #2 (August 2013):  Lupron Stop Protocol: 
    28R, 23M, 15F w/ICSI; 5dt of 1 partially hatched blast, 7 frosties = BFP
    EDD 5/23/14, blighted ovum (6w6d), D&C (8w6d)
    FET #1 (April 2014):  transferred 2 5d blasts = BFP

    C.J. born 01/09/15

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  • I'd really like to say something, but I need to compose myself first and not make it personal to my situation.  That's not how I envision "outing" myself.





    dx:  Unexplained IF (mild MFI)

     TTC since May 2011, 1 year trying, and then 3 TI, 2 IUI = BFN

    IVF #1 (May 2013):  Antagonist Protocol: 
    24R, 18M, 15F w/ICSI; 5dt of 2 early blasts, no frosties = BFN
    IVF #2 (August 2013):  Lupron Stop Protocol: 
    28R, 23M, 15F w/ICSI; 5dt of 1 partially hatched blast, 7 frosties = BFP
    EDD 5/23/14, blighted ovum (6w6d), D&C (8w6d)
    FET #1 (April 2014):  transferred 2 5d blasts = BFP

    C.J. born 01/09/15

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  • Gasp! Omg what an idiot. My reaction would have been instantaneous and probably not well thought out, so don't listen to me. If its not worth it, than don't, but if you think others may read it and be educated, then go for it. It's a miracle and sounds like everything went well with the delivery, divorce happens, but there are still four beautiful babies in this world and I'm ok with that.

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           Me: All Normal DH: .5% Morph
    Cycles 1-14 (Natural) all BFN
                                  Starting IUI#1 procedures Nov '13
                          IUI Cxl'd due to surprise natural BFP 11/1/13
            Calvin born on June 19th, 2014 via emergency c-section at 3lbs7oz
         
  • That type of attitude is so sad to me. Close-minded ignorance.
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  • You've got to be kindling me?! That statement is just plain cruel! I would have FB flipped out on the person that said that!
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    TTC 24 months, IUI #3 BFP 6/4/14 Beta 6/5 58, 6/9 508, 6/11 1227 TWINS! EDD 2/15/15
    With heavy hearts, we said goodbye to our precious angels on 8/12 at 13 weeks 2 days.
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    IVF #1 Lup/Brav/Meno, ER 11/28 10R/10F, ET "Rudolph" 4AA embryo 12/3, 7 frosties.
    BFP! Betas: 12/12 225, 12/15 706, 12/17 1512. EDD 8.21.15
    12/29 hb 120. 1/5 perfect, GRAD DAY! 1/15 perfect at OB. NT 2/6 PERFECT, HB 158!

    Baby Girl born 8.9.15 at 38.2 due to IUGR 4lb7.8oz 17" 
    Our princess is being watched over by her older siblings every day <3
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  • Wow, that's awful and uneducated.
    Congrats to my TTC buddy Madeline! Cheering for all the strong 3T ladies! 

    TTC since March 2012; DX: PCOS 4/2013 
    BFP 7/6/2013; EDD 3/6/2014 
    Diagnosed with Pre-E: 2/15/201
    Emergency induction: 2/16/2014
    Baby E born: 2/16/2014 at 12:56pm. 5lb 15oz



  • Ignorant trash. Honestly, the insensitivity of some never ceases to amaze me.
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