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How do you track your side savings?

Hi all! I don't think I've ever posted here but here we go!

I'm trying to get a better hang on our budget and savings. I've always budgeted weekly and time and time again it has proved to fail. We always end up having to borrow from savings to keep ourselves afloat until the next paycheck. We have some weeks where we have NO bills that come out and some weeks that EVERY bill comes out, elaving us with far less money than we need on a weekly basis at times. I've switched to monthly and so far it seems to be working and have much less overhead work on my part! Or, at least I think it will once I stop worrying that I'm doing it wrong and stop obsessing about it :)

Now on to savings. I wanted to start putting a little cash aside each month for things we know will occur and want to plan ahead for. Thing is, I have a few issues I am still trying to figure out how to manage...

1) Actually tracking how much we've put aside for each item. For example, if I'm saving a set amt per month for our once per year HOA dues, a set amount per month for Christmas spending, and a set amount per month to have a baby, I don't know how to keep track of how much I've set aside for each if I use one set savings account. I read about a website called smartypig that allows you to do instant transfers to online accounts and I might use that, but I'm wondering if anyone else has any good ideas?

2) Actually having ENOUGH to do all these things. For example, we are putting aside a certain amount per month for emergency spending, but it leaves us with little extra to put aside for the baby we hope to have in about 10 months to a year. Or, saving for house projects, that HOA bill, etc... What to do? Do I lower that e fund amount to allow for other things? We do have a chunk in savings, I just want to start allocating better.

3) How do YOU set aside and track how much you have for things like house proejcts, decorating etc... Do you just use your regular spending money? Do you pick projects and save up for those specifically? Etc...

If anyone has any suggestions or insight I"m all ears! I could use spreadsheets etc but I'm so nervous with this big change in budget that I feel like I'm doing it all wrong!

Oh for the record, I use Mint.com, and I use a spreadsheat on the side to track what bills come out when since they don't have a future budgeting tool (way annoying)

Thanks!
Buying A Home

Re: How do you track your side savings?

  • 1. I use You Need a Budget software to track my budget. It's really helpful for saving for things that will happen in the future. I have separate categories for each of our "savings" types (e-fund, hoa, car repairs, etc.), even though I keep all the money in one account.

    2. My strategy has been to prioritize our e-fund over other savings until we get to 6 months available. I do put away for expected expenses, such as HOA fees, car insurance, etc., but I'm not saving for things like vacations or a new car until that e-fund is in place. Once I'm happy with our emergence fund, I will start saving for other things, too.

    3. For house projects, I put aside $X per month. If we want to do a big project, we save for a couple of months. I've found that house/decorating expenses add up quickly. Having a budgeted amount helps me prioritize. For something like a kitchen remodel, we'll probably save up a few hundred a month for a couple of years until we have enough to pay cash.
  • We have 2 spreadsheets we use- one where we allocate the money for the month (our budget) and this includes things that we are saving for like HOA and right now new floor and a new bed are on the top of the list.
    The other spreadsheet is our 'savings' spreadsheet. This tracks what's in our savings account and how much is allocate to HOA, insurance, vacation, house stuff, etc- really whatever we are saving for. At the end of every month (so today) I go get cash for the next month (we do the envelop system to keep our budget on track) and then I transfer money over to the savings account. We keep our checking at the same amount every month so we know how much we actually saved that month, and whether or not we are keeping on track with our goals.
    It works for us. Hope that makes sense!
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  • I use two primary savings accounts - one has an e-fund that I completely ignore (except to add money to it), and the other is our "slush fund/house savings" account that is a little more fluid.  We are building the slush fund up to use as a downpayment eventually... but I also put money for a new car, money for vacations, etc. there as well.  That helps me see what I can't touch except in a true emergency and what I can touch if the thing we want to buy is worth delaying the house... turns out, there's not much we want to buy that's worth delaying the house.  Though we are planning a trip to London after my H takes the bar exam in July.

    As for priorities, this is my personal list.  Keep in mind this is just for us, and isn't necessarily what you should be doing:

    1) Retirement - fully funded Roths + fully funded 401(k)s before we do anything else
    2) Emergency fund up to $5,000
    3) Trip to London
    4) New car for H
    5) House downpayment
    6) Emergency fund up to 6-9 months - goal is $30,000
    7) Baby fund - goal is $15,000 to have $$ left over to start college fund
    8) After baby is born, monthly payments into college 529 account
    9) General wealth building, stocks, mutual funds, etc. that qualify for capital gains tax rates when we sell them

    I would normally put the larger e-fund before travel/car/house, but our income is such (and our fixed expenses are currently so low) that we can afford to pay off a pretty expensive emergency in a few months if necessary.  The only thing we can't fully cover is losing one of our jobs, and that's why we do need an e-fund eventually, but not right away.  Our jobs are pretty stable.

    Somewhere in between the larger e-fund, the baby fund, and the college 529 accounts we will also start pre-paying my husband's law school loans.  Mine are at such a low interest rate that we won't pre-pay mine.  But we'll work on his once we've met some other savings goals.
    Wedding Countdown Ticker
  • We also have one savings account (not including our IRAs and 401(k)s) and we use an Excel spreadsheet to track the individual pots of money that will go toward various things. Our e-fund is in this savings account, set at $x. Money in this account above the e-fund amount is going toward a Toyota Sienna minivan (used). I have some experience with Excel so I also use it to make line and bar graphs to visually see our progress. It's fun! Nerdy, but fun!

    Also for savings, you can set up automatic transfers through your bank. On a day you choose, their system will move funds from your checking to savings. This way you do not have to remember to save. Another option is to have your employer do 2 direct deposits of your paycheck. A portion goes to checking and a set amount goes to savings. Not all employers will do this, so you have to ask. 

    As PPS said, definitely focus on your e-fund building up before other savings goals. Dave Ramsey does advise a $1k base. But, many posters here feel that at least 3 months savings is better. Personally, last month I had a car accident and medical bills (related to having a baby and a separate hospital stay) and just with the deductibles, I was over $1k.

  • I would love to see an example of someone's spreadsheet if they wouldn't mind emailing me a version.  You can remove the amounts or make them up; I'd just like to see the concept.
    Married 6/10/09 in Bermuda.
  • My budgetting excel document has gotten way elaborate over the years, and it includes a tab for "accounts". They're not really separate accounts, but that's how I think of them. For example, we set aside money each month for gifts, and then don't end up spending the majority of it til December. So in my regular monthly budget tab, I'll deduct the amount for gifts like I do any other expense we have, and then add that amount to the accounts tab under the gifts column. I do this same thing for other expenses that we don't have monthly but we do save for throughout the year, as well as to save a certain amount towards a particular goal.

    That's probably confusing as hell, sorry. Makes sense in my mind.

  • We have 2 spreadsheets we use- one where we allocate the money for the month (our budget) and this includes things that we are saving for like HOA and right now new floor and a new bed are on the top of the list.
    The other spreadsheet is our 'savings' spreadsheet. This tracks what's in our savings account and how much is allocate to HOA, insurance, vacation, house stuff, etc- really whatever we are saving for. At the end of every month (so today) I go get cash for the next month (we do the envelop system to keep our budget on track) and then I transfer money over to the savings account. We keep our checking at the same amount every month so we know how much we actually saved that month, and whether or not we are keeping on track with our goals.
    It works for us. Hope that makes sense!
    This sounds like the similar logic we use. Minus the cash system, but everything else is approximately what we do. So makes sense to me!
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