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Sister and car seat wars

My older sister has 4 and 6 year old boys. Now that school started she decided to take the oldest out of his booster and just use the seat belt. She says he fits well and he can adjust his belt to fit - whatever that means (he is nowhere near the height/age limit required by law to go booster-less: 8 yrs old or 4'9" tall). The youngest is still in his booster, but the headrest needs to move up. 
I've already texted her back to ask her to check if she can raise the headrest so that they can fit better in their seats and be safe, but she just says the belts are where they need to be no worries... (I know the seat adjusts easily and can be used backless... but what can you do?)
Ever since I mentioned it, she and her husband seem to only take pics of the boys when they are riding in the car... Seems like everything has to be a fight/competition with her - my dd is just a toddler, and she has a "been there, done that" attitude about parenting stuff. But really, this is more important than who's right or wrong. 
Come on people it's not that difficult to read a manual or google this stuff!! 
What would y'all do to get these little guys riding safe?

Re: Sister and car seat wars

  • Some kids are big for their age; if he meets the height requirement and he's the right weight for that height, then he can just use the seat belt.

    if he fits the height requirement but is on the skinny side where his weight is  bit low for that height, I think it is wise to ask his ped if he can still use the seat belt.
  • He is 6, the law is 8 - so no, he cannot just use the seat belt. 

    An average 6 year old 3'6" and he is below average height, so no again, he's not tall enough to go without either...

    Hopefully this is helpful to someone out there (for children over 8 and/or 4'9")

    The 5-Step Test for going booster-less: 
    1. Does the child sit all the way back against the auto seat? 
    2. Do the child's knees bend comfortably at the edge of the auto seat? 
    3. Does the belt cross the shoulder between the neck and arm? 
    4. Is the lap belt as low as possible, touching the thighs? 
    5. Can the child stay seated like this for the whole trip? 
  • Not your kids, not your business. Even though you love them I would avoid policing your sister. 
  • Oh wow. You're one of those moms. Awesome.
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  • You've done all you can do.  They aren't your kids. I  get your concern, but they aren't your kids. 

    And honestly - I would suggest backing off.  You're making it out that she's being competitive, but she may actually just be annoyed.  Having a new mom show up and start telling you how you're doing "everything" wrong is annoying when you've been through it twice. 

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  • lol OP, I'm sure you mean well, but you need to leave your sister alone and let her raise her kids how she sees fit. What she does is her business, not yours, so you really need to back off and worry about your own kid.
  • Really?!? So you are the parenting Police. Nice.

    You can't do anything. She isn't going to listen to you. Back off.
  • You've told her and now you have to let it go. When she gets pulled over she'll figure it out. 
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  • I'm torn.  This is a serious safety issue and can be the difference between life and death. I too take car seat safety seriously.  My own DD is almost 5 and is still rfing because she hasn't exceeded the limits in her car seat. 

    That being said, this kind of stuff doesn't go over well.  No mother likes to hear that she is putting her child in danger, especially an experienced mother .  You've said your peace and it is a shame she didn't listen to you.  Saying anything else will probably make her dig in her heels more.  You've given her something to think about and that is all you can do. 

  • When she gets pulled over or her kids are injured due to improper restraint usage - she'll figure it out.

    I actually wrestle with this too. If there's someone in your family - an adult not doing this, it's not your business, but when kids are involved and they could die or be injured in an accident shouldn't other adults step up to protect them? I DO think so. We step up as non-parents and protect other kids all the time in our society.

    Anyway, all you can do is locate some recent statistical information about car accidents and improper child restraints and give it to her. The sole purpose of a car seat/ seat belt is to keep a person inside the vehicle. More people die in car accidents when their bodies leave the car or when people inside a vehicle are not restrained at all or are improperly restrained and do damage to themselves or others by being tossed around inside a car. If a child is too small for a seat belt s/he can slip out - in some accidents, that will be fatal.


  • When she gets pulled over or her kids are injured due to improper restraint usage - she'll figure it out.

    I actually wrestle with this too. If there's someone in your family - an adult not doing this, it's not your business, but when kids are involved and they could die or be injured in an accident shouldn't other adults step up to protect them? I DO think so. We step up as non-parents and protect other kids all the time in our society.

    Anyway, all you can do is locate some recent statistical information about car accidents and improper child restraints and give it to her. The sole purpose of a car seat/ seat belt is to keep a person inside the vehicle. More people die in car accidents when their bodies leave the car or when people inside a vehicle are not restrained at all or are improperly restrained and do damage to themselves or others by being tossed around inside a car. If a child is too small for a seat belt s/he can slip out - in some accidents, that will be fatal.


  • Ok I read most of your past posts.  In the 4 years or so that you have been on this site, almost all of your posts have been about your sister.  Let me just say that you and your sister have a very unhealthy relationship.  Judging from your posts, you both fuel it.  You say she is competitive, catty and mean, but you also seem competitive for your mom's attention and put her down and her husband many times. 

     

    I say this with the upmost respect, but I think it is time to see a counselor that specializes in family / sibling / parent issues.   Perhaps a professional third party will give you the tools you need to establish healthy boundaries with your sister and also how to handle the subsequent guilt trips from your mother.  I also hope that a counselor can help you see what part you have played in this.

    I say this as someone who has also seen a counselor and it was honestly one of the healthiest decisions I ever made. 

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