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MIL always talks badly about other DIL

My MIL is the type of woman to hold a grudge - FOREVER.  She hates her other DIL and always talks badly about her behind her back (in front of me).  She has even gone so far as to offer to help her son draw up divorce papers (unsolicited).

It makes me very uncomfortable when she bashes her other DIL (and the rest of the family joins in) in front of me.  I have spoken to DH about it and he agrees that it makes him uncomfortable too.  Would it be wrong for me to have a private conversation with her telling her that I feel uncomfortable when she speaks so poorly of her other DIL in front of me?  Or should I just do what DH does and try to ignore it?

Re: MIL always talks badly about other DIL

  • I would address it while she is in the act. If she brings up the subject, just say "you know, I am not comfortable talking about other people when they are not here. Let's not talk about DIL any more." And try to change the subject.
  • If she's talking about her other DIL in front of this many people/family you have to know that she is absolutely doing the same about you.

    Next time, very loudly so everyone can hear you say something like: Geez, MIL if you can say or talk about other DIL like this what the hell are you saying about ME when I'm not around?!? I mean goodness no matter what this is your sons wife and the future (or currant) mother of your grandchild(ren).

    Then get up and leave. I'd leave every time she does this no matter what the occasion or holiday. If it bothers you and your H so much talking to her will only do so much, actions always speak louder than words.

    Also, I'm curious wth did SIL do to warrant MILs wrath? If it's something minor or something MIL caused herself it speaks to how soon this really will be you she is trash talking,
  • amjlb2012 said:
    My MIL is the type of woman to hold a grudge - FOREVER.  She hates her other DIL and always talks badly about her behind her back (in front of me).  She has even gone so far as to offer to help her son draw up divorce papers (unsolicited).

    I'd say the bigger problem here is her son and not your MIL: he's a wimp and a spineless weasel and a mama's boy. And I think his soon to be ex wife is soon to be rid of a nice piece of bad rubbish.

    What man with a spine listens to his mother when she goes "get divorced"????

    It makes me very uncomfortable when she bashes her other DIL (and the rest of the family joins in) in front of me.

    Do not be a follower: Be a leader: tell her to cut it OUT and then change the topic.

    And if she keeps it up tell her you will ask her to leave.

    Particularly if this is in your home when this nonsense starts: you've got a right to squelch her ass.

     I have spoken to DH about it and he agrees that it makes him uncomfortable too


    And he does nothing. C'mon...the 2 of you need to be proactive adults.

    Would it be wrong for me to have a private conversation with her telling her that I feel uncomfortable when she speaks so poorly of her other DIL in front of me?  Or should I just do what DH does and try to ignore it?
    I would also fink on her to her DIL and tell the DIL -- your SIL, right? --- to start standing up for herself. 90% of this is facing a bully and taking the bull by its horns.

    Next time she does it: tell her to cut it out and stand up for your rights.

    It is in poor taste to do this to another person, especially if the person is not there to defend herself.
  • He didn't listen to his mother when she suggested divorce papers.  He and his wife very rarely come to family functions anymore, which seems to fuel her fire more. 

    Luckily this does not happen in my home, because MIL doesn't like to drive the hour to come visit us (which is ok with me).  But it does always happen in her home - with the rest of her kids around, which is why I've been hesitant to say something up until this point.  I've been trying to figure out the best way to go about it without coming off as a witch in her home (in front of her family).


    MLE2010, I honestly don't know what she did to incur her wrath - no one really talks about it.  All I know is that there were some disagreements about the wedding (over 5 years ago, which is before I came into the picture) and MIL tends to have a flair for the dramatic (to say the least). 

    Luckily, I seem to be on her good side....for now.  Who knows how that will change over the years...
  • amjlb2012 said:
    He didn't listen to his mother when she suggested divorce papers.  He and his wife very rarely come to family functions anymore, which seems to fuel her fire more. 

    Luckily this does not happen in my home, because MIL doesn't like to drive the hour to come visit us (which is ok with me).  But it does always happen in her home - with the rest of her kids around, which is why I've been hesitant to say something up until this point.  I've been trying to figure out the best way to go about it without coming off as a witch in her home (in front of her family).


    MLE2010, I honestly don't know what she did to incur her wrath - no one really talks about it.  All I know is that there were some disagreements about the wedding (over 5 years ago, which is before I came into the picture) and MIL tends to have a flair for the dramatic (to say the least). 

    Luckily, I seem to be on her good side....for now.  Who knows how that will change over the years...
    Your MIL sounds ridiculous and ridiculously rude. Doesn't matter if this is going on in her home, she shouldn't even be doing it at all in front of anyone who will listen and absolutely someone should tell her to knock it off. Doesn't mean it has to be you - in fact, I think it should be one of her own kids telling her that way it takes any heat off of you if you were to do it. And ps - I would not be surprised if she talks shit about you behind your back too, so I'd watch out if I were you....
  • I'd leave this one for your DH too, especially because she already has a problem with one DIL...don't add yourself to that list! Get your DH to say something like "I wouldn't want you to talk about my wife like that, so can we not talk about (brother's) wife behind her back?" I mean, it's disrespectful to your DH's brother too. He chose your SIL, and he obviously loves her, so your MIL needs to suck it up and respect his choice. Or at least not bash her to others.
  • I would say something.  You don't have to yell or curse or name call, just say it makes you both uncomfortable and makes it so you don't want to visit as much.

    Of course, this would be most effective if it came from your husband.

  • Eh -- how I would deal with this would depend a lot on factors you haven't mentioned:  how long I've been a part of the family, how likely MIL would be to turn against me, how much support she has from others, my H's willingness to back me up, etc.

    I think there are a few ways to deal with this, depending on your circumstances:

    --Ignore it.

    --Wait until you are alone with MIL and she starts in on her other DIL.  Then say, "I don't really have an opinion on her either way, but it makes me uncomfortable to talk about someone behind her back."

    --Have your H say something to his mom about it.

    --Say something in front of the whole family like, "I'm really uncomfortable with this.  I don't want to talk about her behind her back."
  • My mother in law is exactly like that with the other Son In Laws and with DH's ex.  And I KNOW that she talks about me behind my back.  Mainly because I don't allow her to talk/be passive aggressive to me.  

    The very first time I met her, she started talking smack about DHs Ex to me infront of my SKs.  I wasnt even married.  I gave DH a very clear look, turned my back on MIL and took the kids out of the room.  

    When then BF came into the room, I told him that I was pretty shocked at MIL's lack of tact to discuss these things infront of the kids and me and that it made us all uncomfortable.  I also told him that I would say something the next time.  

    I know he talked to her about it, but only because it took ME pointing out to him that it was extremely rude to do this.  Ever since then, she sort of tries to control herself, but only because when she DOES I will get up and leave with DD.  I have left her house, I have left restaurants, I have left parties.  DH knows that I keep the keys.  

    Unfortunately DD and I always have to go back, but within the 15 min we are gone DH will put her back in her place.  

    Now, when she comes at ME directly, I personally put her in her place, but that is because DH and I agreed that when it comes to me or DD, I can handle his family on my own, but with anything else he wants to take lead. 




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  • I'm taking the "keep your mouth shut" side.  Let one of her own kids be the one to say something.  Do you really want to end up on the shit list?  If you don't like it, leave the room, but end it at that.  It's not YOUR place to put her in HER place. And even if you feel like it is, you'll be the next ones not coming to family functions because of how terrible she'll treat you and make you feel and that would suck for your husband because even if she's a psycho, she's still his mom.

  • And trust me.... I understand your situation.  My MIL keeps a book where she writes down everything that anyone has ever done to make her mad so she doesn't forget.  I kid you not.  My only goal with her is to not have my name in that book. So far so good.
  • Her house, her rules. Either don't go or leave the room. Always remain silent. People who gossip about one will gossip about any at the turn of a dime.
  • kss20 said:

    And trust me.... I understand your situation.  My MIL keeps a book where she writes down everything that anyone has ever done to make her mad so she doesn't forget.  I kid you not.  My only goal with her is to not have my name in that book. So far so good.

    This is the worst advice I've heard. So you are living in "fear" of your MIL and her pissed off book?!? The absolute WTF look is on my face. Good luck with this.

    Is this real life? Who does this and who are these family members that put up with this BS?!?
  • kss20 said:

    I'm taking the "keep your mouth shut" side.  Let one of her own kids be the one to say something.  Do you really want to end up on the shit list?  If you don't like it, leave the room, but end it at that.  It's not YOUR place to put her in HER place. And even if you feel like it is, you'll be the next ones not coming to family functions because of how terrible she'll treat you and make you feel and that would suck for your husband because even if she's a psycho, she's still his mom.

    Yes, put up with crazy because your H needs his MOMMY!! Can't have consequences for MIL and HER words and actions. Oh, the horror!!
  • MLE2010 said:

    kss20 said:

    And trust me.... I understand your situation.  My MIL keeps a book where she writes down everything that anyone has ever done to make her mad so she doesn't forget.  I kid you not.  My only goal with her is to not have my name in that book. So far so good.

    This is the worst advice I've heard. So you are living in "fear" of your MIL and her pissed off book?!? The absolute WTF look is on my face. Good luck with this.

    Is this real life? Who does this and who are these family members that put up with this BS?!?
    LOL....right?

    No one should live 'in fear' of the IL's...that's just crap. You are human so to put on this phoney act of 'perfection' and tippy toe to avoid pissing off the MIL is ridiculous.
  • kss20 said:
    And trust me.... I understand your situation.  My MIL keeps a book where she writes down everything that anyone has ever done to make her mad so she doesn't forget.  I kid you not.  My only goal with her is to not have my name in that book. So far so good.
    You need to steal the book and burn it.
  • I think its better you sort it out within the family diameter if you have problems then speak it out with her with family discussion, Sit with all those people that are facing the same problem with your MIL and thus speak it out in front of her that will help her understand the problem you are facing from her and eventually some day she will understand and stop.

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