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Update on the friend (former MOH) situation

Ok, so I completely hijacked the FFFC post on Friday explaining about my friend, former MOH situation.

She, in fact, did not go to my engagement party. I checked facebook toward the end of the party and noticed she posted a status "Watching Hot Tub Time Machine... classic." I was flabbergasted. That's what she'd rather do than come celebrate with me. I was literally in shock.

After thinking about it a little while and talking about it with FH, I decided to release her from the bridal party. I texted her that since it was apparent that this is not a good time in her life and it was only causing both of us stress, that it would be best that she not take part in the wedding party. Her responses again shocked me. She told me she didn't have money to go to the party. Ummmm... it was a FREE party. She lives 15 minutes from the party location as well. Also, she doesn't know it,  but our mutual friend called me Saturday morning out of concern because they had all gone to eat Friday night (I would have gone too, but I had to be with my cheerleaders at the football game Friday night). Apparently, this friend, the former MOH, spent Friday shopping, getting her nails done, etc. That night at dinner, she paid for her dinner and drinks as well as her boyfriend's dinner and drinks. She told me she is -$500 in her bank account... but she had money just the day before. Regardless, the party was FREE and it's not mandatory to bring a gift. From the moment I told her about the party two months ago, she has come up with different excuses not to go... and when she didn't have one, she just didn't go. I also told her that she made it obvious when she didn't even want to take part in conversations about wedding events when she chose to leave the conversation on FB immediately when the conversation started. Her excuse: she didn't have wifi and that I should have texted her. I told her: I did text you the next day since no one had heard your answer about whether or not you wanted to go to the bachelorette party, and you saw it, read it (she has the read receipt turned on her phone) and then never answered me. She said that did not happen. I took a screen shot of it and sent it to her.

To make a long story short, she told me I am being "pure evil," told me I am judging her for not having money, called me a bridezilla, and then rounded all that out by telling me that I am using her as a scapegoat to release my frustrations because I don't really want to get married. Wow....
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Re: Update on the friend (former MOH) situation

  • :-O

    I can't even form a coherent response to all this.
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  • :-O

    I can't even form a coherent response to all this.
    I've been staring at my monitor for the past few minutes trying and then gave up.

    Sorry you have to deal with this.  My best [unsolicited] advice is: you can't argue with crazy. Repeat as necessary. Your friend will make up any excuse for it to be anyone's fault but hers and that will become her reality.  Seems like you've done everything you can and arguing with her or trying to make her understand how you feel and see that her actions hurt you is only going to make you more upset. Lots of deep breaths!
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  • It would have taken everything I had not to bitch slap her through the phone. Sorry you have had to go through all this!
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  • I'm sorry :-(  I would've been pissed too!
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  • I think you speculated that maybe she was also doing drugs with her BF?  It sounds like maybe you are right.  I am sorry you are losing a friend.
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  • I'm so sorry.  That really sucks.  My best guess is that she is jealous... unless this is not a new behavior for her, and then I say she's selfish.

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  • And the sad thing is,I am not even exaggerating or making it sound worse than it is. If anything I am going soft on the details. Literally, I was staring at my phone reading her texts last night in disbelief. I always knew she could be a tad on the selfish side from the way she rants about her parents and her demands she places on them, but I guess I never fully realized until I was on the receiving end.

    I refuse to let her upset me any further, and at this point, I am just looking forward to the remainder of wedding planning and events with happy people that I don't have to worry about!
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  • Yea, you made the right decision cutting her loose before the real wedding festivities began. She is selfish and would have added so much unnecessary drama to your occasions.

    Sorry you are losing a friend but it doesn't sound like she's been a very good one lately to begin with.
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  • I think this is someone that you really don't need in your life right now...

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  • I'd be more concerned about her potential drug use than her not being there for your wedding events.

    Have you expressed your fears about her bf and her change in attitudes/personality in a concerned, non-judgmental way? If she really is using, she needs a friend.
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  • I'd be more concerned about her potential drug use than her not being there for your wedding events. Have you expressed your fears about her bf and her change in attitudes/personality in a concerned, non-judgmental way? If she really is using, she needs a friend.
    Yes, I have. Our other friends have as well. We've tried so many different things and she gets so angry and pissed off and tells us she doesn' t have time for this.
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  • It sounds to me that you both are in very different places and lifestyles. You may always love or care about someone but it doesn't mean you have to stay friends, etc. If you don't approve of her life, then you are judging her and she knows it. She clearly doesn't want the judging.  it was a good call to get her out of the wedding party since you can't rely on her. I'm sorry for you that she isn't holding up her end of the bargain. 

    I also think how you view weddings is different. She probably thinks that the degree of parties is too much. Honestly,  I personally feel as though an engagement party, bachelorette party, wedding shower and a wedding is too much. I have my opinions about it and she probably feels the same as I do. There are people on this board that avoid baby showers and birthday parties but we never side-eye them here for it. I get that she let you down, but I frankly think your friend has a legitimacy to her actions too. I am not trying to be a jerk, but I didn't respond to your first post about this because I thought you were harsh. You are crazy judgey about her in nahy ways so why did you bother making her moh in the first place? Also, did you actually ask her not to bring her bf to the wedding? If so, no wonder she doesn't want to attend.

    You aren't friends and she should never have been in the party. I hate to be the only person to say it but it's true. 
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  • I agree with @spongebobsquarepanties this is becoming a way bigger deal than it should be. I also think you need to take some responsibility for the situation at hand. It's always sad to see a friendship end. I also think you need to try a better way to reach out to her if you think she has a problem.
  • Actually, when I first got engaged, she was wanting to buy the cake for the engagement party, and was saying how she wanted to get a planner and sit and plan all these things out. She was so excited and couldn't wait to start planning. After a couple weeks, it was apparent she had a change of heart. And no, I didn't go and talk only about my wedding, engagement etc bc school started back up and we talked teacher things.

    And yes, when she got back together with this guy, I told her that she can do whatever she wants with her life, but I will not hang out with him. He is a known drug dealer and addict and I will not be in his presence because I'm not going down with him if he gets busted with drugs. Her other friends have this same standard.

    I have been there for her when she lost her job, I let her live with me rent-free, I cooked her meals, cleaned her bathroom; I was the only person she had help her move into an apartment when she got this new job. Her boyfriend didn't feel the need to come help even though he had the day off and was doing nothing but sitting at home.

    I do judge her decision to be with this guy, and I admit that. I feel like she's too smart,pretty, etc to be with someone who treats her that way and uses her for her money and vehicle. But as far as judging her for not having money, no. I am in no way "rolling in the dough" myself and I know what it's like to work paycheck to paycheck.

    I made her MOH bc she has been my best friend for five years. She and I were single together and were inseparable. When I met my fiance, she made the comment that it's not fair because he is more her type than mine.
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  • I would rather spend money I don't have on drinks than someone else's wedding. Your wedding isn't important to everyone. It's not important to her, and so...oh well. It doesn't sound like you have a great deal of sympathy for her life situation and she doesn't give a shit about your wedding. You two are even and it's over. Move on. It shouldn't be a topic of conversation that creates an "us" vs. "her" either. One day you'll all be over the age of 23 and it won't matter anymore.
  • I am well over the age of 23!!!

    And you're right, I don't have sympathy. I am aware of that about myself... I tend to lack sympathy for people when their lives are not the way they want them to be due to choices they made/are making. You can't complain about something that you aren't willing to change.
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  • katieg520 said:
    I am well over the age of 23!!!

    And you're right, I don't have sympathy. I am aware of that about myself... I tend to lack sympathy for people when their lives are not the way they want them to be due to choices they made/are making. You can't complain about something that you aren't willing to change.
    Then I suggest you take your own advice.

    Also, you got a bunch of people on here who sympathize with you. Your friends all agree with you and it's clear you get to vent to them. What else is there for us to add, if you won't even consider the other side of the coin?There is nothing left for you to get from telling us about it.
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  • katieg520 said:
    I am well over the age of 23!!!

    And you're right, I don't have sympathy. I am aware of that about myself... I tend to lack sympathy for people when their lives are not the way they want them to be due to choices they made/are making. You can't complain about something that you aren't willing to change.
    Then I suggest you take your own advice.

    Also, you got a bunch of people on here who sympathize with you. Your friends all agree with you and it's clear you get to vent to them. What else is there for us to add, if you won't even consider the other side of the coin?There is nothing left for you to get from telling us about it.
    Very true! Thanks for your point of view!
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  • katieg520 said:



    I'd be more concerned about her potential drug use than her not being there for your wedding events.

    Have you expressed your fears about her bf and her change in attitudes/personality in a concerned, non-judgmental way? If she really is using, she needs a friend.

    Yes, I have. Our other friends have as well. We've tried so many different things and she gets so angry and pissed off and tells us she doesn' t have time for this.


    I'm guessing it's your delivery. Your judgement and lack of compassion are evident here, so I'm sure they're clear to her.

    And I don't think having a lack of sympathy is something to be too proud of.
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  • Also, I will shit my pants if you say that either of their drugs of choice is marijuana.
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  • Oh definitely not, lol....
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  • I am so sorry about this.  Friends and weddings, I really think some people really can get jealous.   I had a friend, notice I said had.   She and I were great friends.  When I met my now H, she was so so happy for us.  I remember her saying after we had been dating only like a month, that I was going to marry this guy, which obviously I did.  lol  But when I started becoming not available to her 24-7, she started claiming that  was a shitty friend.  Right!  I always would try to get together with her, dinner, drinks, whatever, just watching a movie to hang out.  She was the one who slowly drifted away. 

    Sad, really sad.  She ended up not even answering any invites, shower, bachelorette party, wedding....  SHe too, claimed she was broke, so couldn't come to the bachelorette party, I am not a big $$ spender, so I wanted it as cheap as possible.  I didn't want the girls spending a bunch of ? on it.  She didn't come with, but I found out she went and spend a ton of money on some show, where she had already seen the guy like a million times.  It really hurt my feelings.  Iwas there for her always, and now this important time in my like, which I wanted her to share with me, she bailed.... 

    SOme people, I think are meant to be in our lives only for certain times.  I guess she has done her time... ;) 

     

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  • @cloudymeatballs I am sorry that has happened to you too. I did notice that when I couldn't do every single thing she wanted, that's when it started going south with our friendship. Prior to this, we did everything she wanted to do and we were inseparable. For instance, prior to meeting my FI, I have never missed a birthday of hers. However, this year, I couldn't go because I had to work with my cheerleaders. That was a work responsibility. She flipped out!!! It wasn't like I was hanging out or was looking for an excuse. It was a legit reason! I offered her several alternatives and tried to make it up to her, but she decided not to talk to me for two weeks.

    Sounds like we had the same type of friend. Looking back on it, it has been a very self-serving friendship on her part. I know that I could elaborate more and more on her behavior, but I am not the only person in our lives that is having this issue with her. When things are going good for someone else in her life, she gets extremely jealous and drops that person.

    When her brother and his girlfriend got pregnant, she yelled at him and told him he was "fucking irresponsible" and called him selfish for having a baby before her. When her brother then proposed to his girlfriend/baby's mother, she swore she wouldn't go to the wedding bc "her little brother isn't supposed to get married before her." yeah....
     
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