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I finally finished Allegiant (sp)
Ok, I finally finished this book. MAN was this a boring slog.
I went in knowing Tris was going to die because this had been spoiled for me, and, honestly, Tris almost sacrificed herself for stupid shit like 8 times in Insurgent, so it wasn't a surprise for me at all that that's how V-Roth decided to take the story. I think Tris would sacrifice herself for her brother she hates because she has a history of doing stupid shit that makes absolutely no sense.
And, honestly, I wasn't all that sad about it. Tris got on my nerves big time in Insurgent and continued to bug in this book. I didn't understand where she was coming from and what made her do the things she did most of the time. I didn't like her. I was only sad about her death because Four was sad.
I agree with people who said that Four didn't seem like himself in this book. I know why she had to do the 2 POVs, but I would have rather not been in his POV at all if we just discover he's boring and whiny. Seeing him through Tris's eyes was way better.
My problem with this book, and with Insurgent, now that I think about it, is that it just wasn't very well written. I loved Divergent, and I still do. But she wrote that book with all the time in the world and then wrote these 2 under crazy deadlines with enormous pressure and I just don't think she was able to pull it off. Too many needless characters, too many similar uprisings/revolts. She's obviously a good writer, but I don't know if she wasn't edited enough or if people just let her do what she wanted or what, but both Insurgent and this one were boring and confusing for most of the time and that's not really how a book should be. And I think it was Lauren who said that it's not confusion that you trust will all work out, it's confusion like WTF, did I miss something?
I'm disappointed in this series. Divergent was awesome, but the other 2 books didn't hold up IMO.
Question: Why did they keep mentioning Matthew's supervisor and then pointing out how the supervisor was never there? Did I miss something here? Did we ever discover the identity of the supervisor? WTF was the point of this?
I went in knowing Tris was going to die because this had been spoiled for me, and, honestly, Tris almost sacrificed herself for stupid shit like 8 times in Insurgent, so it wasn't a surprise for me at all that that's how V-Roth decided to take the story. I think Tris would sacrifice herself for her brother she hates because she has a history of doing stupid shit that makes absolutely no sense.
And, honestly, I wasn't all that sad about it. Tris got on my nerves big time in Insurgent and continued to bug in this book. I didn't understand where she was coming from and what made her do the things she did most of the time. I didn't like her. I was only sad about her death because Four was sad.
I agree with people who said that Four didn't seem like himself in this book. I know why she had to do the 2 POVs, but I would have rather not been in his POV at all if we just discover he's boring and whiny. Seeing him through Tris's eyes was way better.
My problem with this book, and with Insurgent, now that I think about it, is that it just wasn't very well written. I loved Divergent, and I still do. But she wrote that book with all the time in the world and then wrote these 2 under crazy deadlines with enormous pressure and I just don't think she was able to pull it off. Too many needless characters, too many similar uprisings/revolts. She's obviously a good writer, but I don't know if she wasn't edited enough or if people just let her do what she wanted or what, but both Insurgent and this one were boring and confusing for most of the time and that's not really how a book should be. And I think it was Lauren who said that it's not confusion that you trust will all work out, it's confusion like WTF, did I miss something?
I'm disappointed in this series. Divergent was awesome, but the other 2 books didn't hold up IMO.
Question: Why did they keep mentioning Matthew's supervisor and then pointing out how the supervisor was never there? Did I miss something here? Did we ever discover the identity of the supervisor? WTF was the point of this?
Re: I finally finished Allegiant (sp)
If it turns out that Matthew is sympathetic to the plight of the GD, why does he IMMEDIATELY go out of his way to prove that Four is GD and not actually Divergent, thus making him feel like an outsider?
I agree with you about Matthew conducting the test on Four, and how it maybe doesn't line up with his later behavior and sympathies. However, Tris comments on how he is very Erudite, even though he lives in the airport not the city. So I guess VR was linking every Erudites' craving for knowledge over compassion or sympathy to Matthew.
I was more surprised that Tris would lead Tobias to the test knowing that he was a little emotion, a little unstable at that point in time. What was she thinking? What good could come from Tobias having his genes examined? But she never expresses any real remorse for taking him to the test or it being her idea. I guess that was her Erudite coming through too.
~ E ~ 7/2010
~ A ~ 3/2014
Books read in 2010: 153
Books read in 2011: 160
Books read in 2012: 134
Books read in 2013: 110
Books read in 2014: 151
Books read in 2015: 153
Books read in 2016: 31
Books read in 2010: 153
Books read in 2011: 160
Books read in 2012: 134
Books read in 2013: 110
Books read in 2014: 151
Books read in 2015: 153
Books read in 2016: 31
I hated the whole genetically damaged/ experiment plot. I felt like the author just decided to go that route with this last book and never intended it from the beginning (because this last book felt like such a departure from the first). And it was soooo cheesy. I kept waiting for the revelation that Tris was immune to all serums because the true reason for the experiments was actually NOT to repair people's DNA, but to create superhumans and that Tris was the first to be found and therefore the long-awaited savior of this broken world!
I know a lot of people think it's ridiculous to have happy ever after endings for YA books, but what I am starting to hate is the whole "teenagers stumble upon a plot and then save the world in just a few months" idea. I try to just go with it at first, but often, by the third book I just don't care anymore.
The funny thing is, I have almost all the same problems as everyone else - except Tris dying. I guess I saw it as her finally learning when it was "right' to take the risk. And then irony that the time that she does it right, she gets killed. It really didn't bother me or feel dumb at all. Plus, let's be honest - Caleb would have fucked that up big time, and then everyone would be screwed.
The two points of view drove me INSANE. I could not keep straight whoTF was talking, ever.
I am a total science/genetics geek, not in that I know much about it, but I find it fascinating. But the attempted explanations in this book made my head hurt, so I had to just stop trying to figure it out.
I felt SO often that I missed something. Something about her writing just made me feel like there are a bunch of little plot points I must have missed. But no, I just... didn't. There is no foreshadowing or hints that further explanation is to come - OR, if there is, NO FURTHER EXPLANATION COMES.
And a little thing, but I hated it - Tris getting super, royally pissed at Four for not just blindly agreeing with her about Nita? That was some serious bullshit. And Four just meekly accepts that she's right afterwards. Just no.
52 Books in 2014??
My sweet babies:
I actually totally ignored both my children tonight to finish it up.
52 Books in 2014??
My sweet babies:
Books read in 2010: 153
Books read in 2011: 160
Books read in 2012: 134
Books read in 2013: 110
Books read in 2014: 151
Books read in 2015: 153
Books read in 2016: 31
I hated that Four's character changed so much in this book. I hated how whiny he was. He went from a super-hot alpha guy to this meek guy whose girlfriend has to be unquestionably right all the time.
Tris is still this girl too busy trying to prove to everyone that she's a badass. Except that she's no longer a Dauntless initiate, and nobody cares how tough she is, and only a wannabe badass has to verify it every five seconds.
And also.. Peter. WTF? What has he learned? That he can just take the serum and forget???