WIJFR: Allegiant (sp) I must be in the minority

sassypants527 · November 2013

I know a lot of people are really upset with the ending, but I think it was a realistic premise. Dystopian novels generally don't have happy endings. Was I sad? Sure, a little, but I wasn't surprised, either. Tris took risk after seemingly selfless risk...she was bound to die. I say seemingly because it she was being a bit self serving to always have to be the hero even at the expense of those she loved and their feelings. Tobias loved her and they were going to build a new life, but she threw it all away to be in control of the mission and save her brother who betrayed her repeatedly. Abnegation to the end. Me, I'd probably be a Divergent combination of Candor and Erudite, which I guess makes me an asshat. Oh well. I liked the book, and I thought it ended logically. I thought this was the strongest book of the three, frankly.

GilliC · November 2013

I didn't love it, but I didn't hate it. It's incredibly difficult to end this kind of story. I think authors are afraid to give them happily-ever-after endings, and honestly Tris should have been dead before the end of Insurgent just given the situations she put herself in. Tris not dying would have seemed contrived.

In the context of the story, her actions at the end were pretty multi-factional. Most people focus on the Abnegation part of choosing to go in her brother's place, but going running into a dangerous situation is a very Dauntless thing to do, and given the changed situation and the high security alert, her training gave her a much better chance of success. There's her Erudite logic. Caleb would have been killed or captured long before he got to the memory serum.

I didn't completely buy Tobias's reaction in the epilogue. I think he would have crumbled. Or gone back to the cold Dauntless-as-a-coping-mechanism version of himself from the beginning of Divergent.

GilliC · November 2013

(And I'm a total Erudite. I have no patience for ignorance.)

SnShne322 · November 2013

It didn't so much bother me that she died. I just disliked so much about the book that when that was piled on top of it that I just gave a big giant WTF at the end.

RiverPlate · November 2013

The end was the only good part IMO. The rest just felt like filler.

packfan20 · November 2013

sassypants527 but I'm also in the minority.

I did, though, think it was the weakest of the 3 and the GD, GP stuff was mind-numbingly boring but I didn't have a problem with the rest.

ChristyDM82 · November 2013

packfan20 said:

sassypants527 but I'm also in the minority.

I did, though, think it was the weakest of the 3

I agree with this as well.

GilliC · November 2013

My biggest problems were the indistinguishable narrators (Tris and Tobias don't sound the same in dialog, so why do they sound the same as narrators?!) and the lack of depth in the new characters. They were all basically extras, and even the characters who came from the city seemed like afterthoughts.

Except Peter. I liked what she did with Peter even if the logistics there felt a little clunky at times.

Leeba25 · November 2013

I actually didn't mind that Tris got killed. It was the ridiculous plot that killed me, in addition to the lack of character development, and the abysmal relationship development. The plot was so stupid, and so boring, that by the time Tris died, I was pleased that something happened. Even though I felt like the author was trying to wring any emotion she could out of us.

It seemed to me like the author, once faced with writing a book #2 and #3, couldn't come up with a feasible reason why the world would be in factions, and why people wouldn't have access to the outside world. And this is what she thought of.

But really, genetic damage being cured by behavior experiments? That doesn't even make sense. I mean, by keeping people of the same genetic persuasion together, they would only have made stronger mutations, right? Had those scientists not heard of pre-implantation genetic diagnosis?

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