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Advice needed (Loss mentioned)

So I need some advice on how to handle this situation.  As most of you know and have come to realize on this board, H and I aren't the best with words.  So I want some advice on how to address this situation, and how to word it.

Yesterday we had our big Christmas on my mom's side of the family.  About 75-100 people show up, and we rent out a school gym for it. Both my mom and my grandma know about our loss. We haven't been secret about it, but we also haven't been fully open about it either.  We will discuss it with close friends and family, but that's about as far out as we've gone. 

So H and I were talking to one of my great aunts, and she asked us how we were doing with everything.  We assumed she was making small talk, but then she asked us about our loss and our struggles.  We were taken back that she knew about both.

Then later I was packing up the food we brought, and a 2nd cousin was standing by me and said "I'm sorry to hear about you and H's loss."  This is a girl that I've spoken to a total of maybe 10 times in my life, and is my mom's cousin.

Then we were getting ready to leave, and H and I went over to get my mom in the group of people she was chatting with.  When we approached the group, she was talking about how they were supposed to be grandparents and went on to talk about how I don't get periods on my own, how we went through IF treatment (which is frowned upon in our community to begin with) to get pregnant, then lost the baby.  Of course everyone noticed that H and I came up to the group, and nobody knew what to say to us. 

We both want to say something to my mom and grandma, but am seriously at a loss with what to say or how to approach this subject with them.  I want this to be something that WE tell people.  Not that my mom gossips about with everyone she see's. I tried telling her the other day that it isn't something that I'm going to belt out about in front of everyone, so it isn't something to be telling everyone she's ever known.  Guess she didn't understand that memo.

So how else can I tell her and have her realize that it isn't the topic of conversation to bring up with everyone and anyone?  Right now I'm regretting even asking her if she ever had female issues and being open with her about our struggles.  Keep in mind that my mom and I have always had a very open relationship.  Her, my grandma, and I have all been very close. So the last thing I want to do is hurt them, but I also want them to realize that this isn't something to go talking about with everyone. 

Any suggestions, or has anyone else dealt with this?

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Re: Advice needed (Loss mentioned)

  • I'm wondering how close you and your mom are if you can't tell her to stfu.
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  • I would just flat out tell my mom not to tell anyone. My mom understands when I say that it just means it isn't her news to share. Can you just say something nicely to her and your grandmother like that??
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  • My mom and I are close too, but I also have a hard time telling her to stop doing something. I always feel guilty that I am making her feel bad, even if she doesn't.

    Anyways, I would start off saying that you appreciate that she cares about you and is there for you during this difficult time in your life, but you aren't ready for everyone in the world to know yet, and that you will tell everyone when/if you're ready. In the meantime you would appreciate it if she would just keep it quiet.

    This is a difficult situation though, because I feel like she's sharing as a way of grieving the loss of her grandchild. Not so much just gossiping.

    I hope you and your mom can get on the same page though. And I'm really sorry you had family members that you aren't particularly close with approaching you about your loss. :(

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  • Sorry you were blindsided this way but I agree with PPs. I'd simply ask her to stop, and like you explained to us, let her know you'd prefer to be the ones sharing your story if you feel compelled to do so.
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  • RockAByeRockABye member
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    I'd just flat out tell her that while you appreciate her support, this was not something you were ready to share with the entire family (even if you never intended to tell) and you do not appreciate being the family gossip. I'd then ask her to please refrain from sharing ANYTHING about your struggle/loss with ANYONE unless she specificially asks for your permission first.

    I have a very very close relationship with my mother too, but sometimes you have to be stern on things and let her know that it hurt you. I've found that if you're too nice about certain things, it will continue. Nip it in the bud. Then tell her you love her, you're sure she didn't mean to hurt you, and really do appreciate her love and support :) 

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  • So sorry you were hit with this. Like PPs, just ask them both kindly to stop and explain to her that it's not something your comfortable talking to everyone about. Just explain that it's not something you want to get hit by in conversation randomly, you and H will choose when and to whom you will speak to about what has happened. 
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  • RockABye said:

    I'd just flat out tell her that while you appreciate her support, this was not something you were ready to share with the entire family (even if you never intended to tell) and you do not appreciate being the family gossip. I'd then ask her to please refrain from sharing ANYTHING about your struggle/loss with ANYONE unless she specificially asks for your permission first. 

    RAB said it better than I could.

    I'd also include something to the effect that you don't want people you haven't talked to about this coming up to you out of the blue and saying something to you. That's a total blindside to you, and it's probably a painful one, too (not being in the mindset at the moment to think/talk about your struggles/loss and suddenly being put on the spot to do just that).
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  • @rockabye You said that so eloquently, and I feel like that would get it across to my mom pretty well. Now hopefully I can reiterate the same thing and make it sound half as good.

     

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    Clomid 50mg 9/13 = BFP! EDD 6/7/14 M/C 5w6d Found 11/4/13
    1/14 PCOS / Gluten Free Diet to hopefully regulate my system. 
    Chemical Pregnancy 03/14
    Surprise BFP 6/14, Beta #1: 126 Beta #2: 340  Stick baby, stick! EDD 2/17/15
    Riley Elaine born 2/16/15

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    Chemical Pregnancy 9/15 
    Chemical Pregnancy 6/16
    BFP 9/16  EDD 6/3/17
    Beta #1: 145 Beta #2: 376 Beta #3: 2,225 Beta #4: 4,548
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  • amccul20amccul20 mod
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    I would simply say, "mom I know you would never do anything to hurt or upset me, but when H and I found out you were telling everyone about our loss and IF troubles it really bothered both of us. If we feel comfortable telling people than we will, but its not your place to share this"

    I've said things like this to my mom in the past and I can tell it kind of hurts her feelings, but ultimately I have to stick up for myself and my H. and your mom will get over it.

     

    ETA: clearly I should have read the abover before I answered! RAB says it best!

  • Can I just say that I realize you don't want to 'hurt your mother's feelings' but what about your own feelings? I'm sure she didn't intentionally mean to hurt you, but you should not just cast your own hurt feelings aside just because you might hurt your mother's feelings. It was not her place to share something that is so personal and so so private with other people - family or not. That is for you and your H to share if you feel like sharing, not her or anyone else. And I would tell it to her just like that. You don't have to be mean about it, obviously, but you should be direct and firm. Then ask her nicely to please not say anything to anyone about the subject again.
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  • I don't really have anything to add to what the PP's have already recommended, but I wanted to say sorry that you're having to go through this. Hopefully, with everyone's advice, you and your mom can come to an agreement about this moving forward. 


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  • I'm sorry you had to go through that at your Christmas party. PPs gave some great advice. I hope that you're able to help them understand your motivations without them feeling hurt about it.

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  • We had a big family party about 10 days after my miscarriage this past summer. I asked my mom to tell family so that I wouldnt get asked 50 billion times about when we were going to try again (they all know about Loss #1). I'd rather them know and not ask that question, but that's just my preference.
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  • So I understand that she probably has some feelings of loss too, aka being a grandparent. She obviously wants to talk about it, but it's inappropriate for her to discuss it with anyone without speaking to you first and the whole rest of the IF stuff is not up for discussion at all. Period. Inappropriate. There is a time and place for certain discussions and I really don't think any of them involve anyone outside of you, DH, and parents/siblings. (Or anyone you verbally say is ok). Even if you had a normal period I wouldn't want her talking about it in public wtf! But you obviously love her so an immediate sit down is required. Be kind, but very very firm.

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