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Serious Budget Help!

My DH need some serious budget help, we've only got $400 left over at the end of the month!  Here's a look:

rent: $950

utilities: $260

car payment: $416

car insurance: $65

gym: $22

cell: $350 (we are also doing a pmt plan for ipads thru Sprint which is why this is high)

loan: $94

internet/home phone/cable: $125

DH's website: $30

food/gas: $300

INCOME: $2700/month

I've got a few drastic ideas since we have a $1500 unplanned bill to pay very soon.

1. sell my Trailblazer and drive DH's 1999 Expedition with 200k miles

2. in laws are going to Florida for 3 months.  We temporarily move there while they're gone allowing us to save serious cash then get a place when they come home.

DH cannot work outside the home right now due to seizures the past 6 months and his neurologist revoked his license.  We need some serious, serious help.  What would you do in our shoes? Please no mean comments, we're already upset enough.  Thanks! 

Re: Serious Budget Help!

  • A few ideas:

    1) I am not an expert on this, but can your H collect any sort of disability? Others on the board may know better how that works.

    2) As long as you're not underwater, selling your car is a great idea. That's a huge payment to get rid of. If you'll profit, even better.

    3) Sell the iPads, switch to dumb phones.

    4) Cancel cable, and, if necessary, internet. I'd keep internet as long as you can for minimal at-home entertainment.

    5) Cancel the gym-look into a $10/month chain if gym is extremely important to you

    6) $300 for gas and food seems ambitious. If you can do it, power to you, but make sure that line item is realistic.

    7) The inlaw plan is your call-personally we wouldn't ask for help unless we were in the negative because it would create big problems with our families, but your dynamic may be different.

    8) Other ideas include an evening job for you, selling other household items on eBay and Craigslist, etc., but I think even just selling the car will be huge. Once your bill is taken care of, channel that money to start an e-fund and then build your retirement. $400 left already at the end of the month isn't that bad; I'd probably use that to start retirement contributions even with your current situation.

    Good luck, and good health to your H.
  • Can you elaborate on the $94 loan payment? What kind of loan is it? What is the balance? Are you currently saving for retirement?

     

    It seems like you have a lot of categories missing from your budget. Have you found that you consistently come out ahead by $400 or that you *should* come out $400 ahead but don't?

  • I'm coming up with monthly expenses of $2612, which would leave you with $88 left over at the end of the month.  Can you please add balances and interest rates to your budget? We can help you decide where to best allocate any "extra" funds you may have.  Also, do you have any kind of emergency fund or savings?

    My suggestions are:
    Cut the cell plan, ditch the ipads. Cut the gym, you can work out from home.  IF you can come out even or ahead on your car, sell it and make sure to keep some money for repairs or maintenance for the older vehicle. If you can't break even on your car maybe look into selling the older vehicle (assuming it's paid for).

    You should make sure you are keeping track of every penny you are spending (eating out, coffee stops, etc). Also, look at applying for disability for your H- I'm not sure what the requirements are, but it seems like he should be able to qualify.

    I know it will be tough to "dig" out of this situation, but you can do it if you have your mind set to it. Best of luck!
  • Hi ladies, I left out the $400 I make tutoring each month on a steady basis. DH and I are starting the SSD thing too. I contribute, pretax $325 a month to retirement and employer matches. DH has a pension from old job. Things will be incredibly tight until first week of February when tax return of about $1500 comes.

  • jlteach78 said:
    Hi ladies, I left out the $400 I make tutoring each month on a steady basis. DH and I are starting the SSD thing too. I contribute, pretax $325 a month to retirement and employer matches. DH has a pension from old job. Things will be incredibly tight until first week of February when tax return of about $1500 comes.
    Thanks for the update.  That's good that you're keeping retirement a priority!  Is there any way you could pick up extra tutoring clients?  Maybe you could run a "new year's special" for your current clients' friends (and kick in a referral bonus?)  Tutoring pay so well in my area, it's pretty much the best side job you can have.

    PP's suggestion to keep some of any profit you get from the car sale aside for repairs to the older model is an important one.  With your low gas budget I'm guessing you have a very short commute, so hopefully it will hold out for you, but car repairs have been the #1 factor burning my DH and I's financial plans for years now.  Going forward, if you can set aside some small amount a month into a car fund, you'll have money building for repairs and for an upgrade once one is necessary.  

    I also noticed that you have zero "fun" budget.  Do you guys really stay in all the time, or does "fun" come from the leftover $400?  We did the "leftover" fun budget approach when we were engaged, and are finding we spend a lot less now that we set aside a particular amount.  
  • Our fun money comes from the $400 and really it's just for movies or a weekend away at my sister's lake house.  DH is on so many meds he can't drink anymore.  We just try to save money wherever we can.  DH is so worried to sell the Trailblazer as it's an '08 with 62k on it and is loaded.  The Expedition needs 4 new tires and maybe a battery but that's it.  He got it at a police auction 2 years ago in mint condition.  The police dept. serviced it every 3k miles so I feel it would last awhile.  Thank you all so much for your awesome advice, feel free to keep it coming!

     

  • Forgot to mention I'm waiting to hear back from the university as far as officially getting to get another teaching certification in the reading specialist area.  I only need 3 credit hours to get a 10k raise for next year in my district:) 

     

  • jlteach78 said:

    Forgot to mention I'm waiting to hear back from the university as far as officially getting to get another teaching certification in the reading specialist area.  I only need 3 credit hours to get a 10k raise for next year in my district:) 

     

    Nice! Will your job pay for the course? Also, have you figured out whether you're underwater on the car? Nice used cars like that are appraising very well lately. Even if your husband is unsure, I'd sell it if you'll profit. It's the fastest way to get some safety cash in the bank and wiggle room in the budget.
  • Yep, my job picks up the tab for school:)  I'm just in a crappy spot right now and want to do everything I can to help us save money.

     

  • Are there any options for your H to work from home? Does he have a degree/marketable skills? What was his field of work before? He didn't have long term disability insurance or anything?
  • Hey! I agree with the PP who asked for more details on your loans...rates, terms, balances owed.

    First off, you could probably stand to cut the iPads and the cable. Internet by itself is usually cheap (we get high-speed for $30 a month) and most networks now run their TV shows online anyway. Also see about going to less expensive phones and cut the land line.

    I am curious about your rent. The general guidelines for housing costs are as follows:

    In low to mid cost of living (COL) areas your housing costs should be about 25-28% of your income. In high COL areas, your housing should be about 30% of your income. It seems that your rental payment of $950 plus that $260 in utilities is high.

    Are you able to move to a less expensive place that is still safe and provides accessibility to your work place and any medical places for your DH? If you cut the gym costs, you could aim to find an apartment community with a gym included on the property.

    I think in your situation, the $416 for a car payment is very high. What about a trade-in for a reliable, well-made car that doesn't guzzle gas? Honda? Toyota? Nissan? These makes have fewer maintenance issues over time as compared with American makes. Plus, their sedans get great gas mileage.

    I looked at Kelley Blue Book. For your SUV, in great condition with 62,000 miles, you may be able to trade it in for $15-17k. You can get a nearly new small car for that amount and SAVE the $416 per month in car payments. Plus, you will save on gas and on auto insurance. Even if you still had to pay a difference of $1-2k on a trade-in, you could make that back in 3-5 months not having to have this monthly car payment. Mathematically, I don't think it makes sense to keep the Trailblazer.

  • Are you stuck in a contract with Sprint? If not, then I would get out of that. You probably don't need multiple ipads and smartphones. The $350/month is more like a car payment than a phone bill. You may even consider paying a contract termination fee. Even if it's like $500, you would be way better off each month thereafter just getting pay as you go phones.

    What is the breakdown of your utility bill? $260/month seems really high. Is that including gas for your cars as well?
  • Are you stuck in a contract with Sprint? If not, then I would get out of that. You probably don't need multiple ipads and smartphones. The $350/month is more like a car payment than a phone bill. You may even consider paying a contract termination fee. Even if it's like $500, you would be way better off each month thereafter just getting pay as you go phones.

    What is the breakdown of your utility bill? $260/month seems really high. Is that including gas for your cars as well?
  • Are you stuck in a contract with Sprint? If not, then I would get out of that. You probably don't need multiple ipads and smartphones. The $350/month is more like a car payment than a phone bill. You may even consider paying a contract termination fee. Even if it's like $500, you would be way better off each month thereafter just getting pay as you go phones.

    What is the breakdown of your utility bill? $260/month seems really high. Is that including gas for your cars as well?
  • With data plans on two ipads (and I'm assuming phones as well at that price), it seems like you could drop the home internet, phone, and cable.  Though ditching the ipads would probably be better, but at the very least, lose one or the other.  

    If DH can't drive, I think you should definitely look into selling the newer car.  $416 is 15% of your income.  It would be huge to get that money back in your pocket every month.  You could pay for a lot of repairs on the other car and still come out way ahead.  
  • I would get rid of that high phone plan, that's crazy!  You can get rid of cable and even the home phone.  Do whatever you can to get rid of that car payment or at least cut it in half.  I know people are always saying cut the gym, but that's a good rate for a monthly membership.  If you actually use it I would keep it.  Obviously if you don't then it's a waste of money.  I'm an active person so that's why I say it.
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  • Yeah I agree with the ipads - I know you can get ipads through T-mobile with a certain amount of data free each month (it's enough for email, general browsing of the web, etc.  Probably not enough to stream movies).  I would see if you can't switch to the T-mobile version with the ipads you have now.  If they don't let you do that, consider selling both ipads to buy one ipad that has the T-mobile set up.  Then you have an ipad.  I don't know why you would need 2.

    Then switch the internet-only for your other TV purposes.  You can also use internet for land line services.  I bought an ooma (I paid about $120 for it) 2 years ago, and I now have a landline that I only pay the taxes on.  It costs about $3/month.  H and I also bought 2 rokus at the same time and now pay $16/month for Netflix and Huluplus.  And we could probably get away with just one of those.  We then pay about $30/month for general internet.  So after our upfront equipment investment, we have ongoing expenses of $49/month for internet, television, and a landline telephone.  The equipment paid for itself in about 4 months of savings from not having cable or a landline associated with a utility company, and we've been saving money ever since.

    For cell phones, switch to straight talk from Walmart or page plus.  You can get 2 cell phones with plenty of minutes, texts, and data for about $30/month each.  If you stream movies on your cell phones, break that habit.  It eats data, and it's a teeny tiny screen anyway.

    Point is, for about $110/month you can run 2 cell phones with data, at least 1 ipad with data, a land line, high speed internet, and a subscription to huluplus and netflix.

    I also agree with selling the car - trade it in for a sedan that you pay cash for.  Then you have 2 vehicles, one of which saves gas, and neither with a car payment.
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  • Another suggestion - sell both ipads and switch to kindle fires.  They run great on wifi.  They are also vastly less expensive than ipads.  You could probably buy two kindles and have money left over for what you get when you sell the ipads.
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