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Spinoff: Car Talk

All the talk about cars the past few days has gotten me pondering something.  For many of us, our plans for future LOs are having a big impact on our car choices (with good reason!)  I currently drive a Honda Fit, and I love it to death.  H has a 2004 Subaru Forester, which is a much smaller model than the late-model Foresters.  We are going to start TTC in about two years, and if all goes well would like 1 or 2 children (I try not to get my heart too set on any particular plan, however, when it comes to kids).  3 is not in the conversation, although of course surprises happen.  My car is a total workhorse.  It probably has at least 7-8 more years in it, and when I imagine what kind of car I'd want in the future I can't imagine anything but another Fit.  H will have to replace his car sooner, but likewise just wants another Forester.  I like having a Subaru in the family in case one of us needs to drive in snowy weather.  

My question for the moms on the board is whether getting SUVs and Crossovers once you had kids was a matter of preference because you prefer extra space, or are there some cars that literally cannot fit two car seats?  I've had two kids in boosters in my car while babysitting, but I know five-point car seats and those little backwards ones for infants take up more space.  The Fit was rated the #1 subcompact for families, has great safety ratings, and has so much more room inside than anything else in its class, but am I going to need to start mentally preparing myself for getting rid of it early?  I prefer small cars-I'm not sure why-and just can't see myself in an SUV.  

Feel free to laugh if this is a very silly question:-P

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  • Shoot, I still drive my 2 door ford focus hatchback. I got it when I was 23 and wasn't thinking of kids in the future.  I'm 33 now and DD will be 3 soon and I plan on driving that car until it dies. I prefer no car payments.  I'm not going to buy a car because I need more space.  I don't need more space and when we have #2, a 2nd car seat will fit in it as well.
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  • Honestly I would never go back to a SUV, at least until we no longer need a car seat, and maybe not even then. I love my minivan, and I was so anti-minivan it was crazy. It is very convenient for getting LO in and out, and we still have a ton of room for others/stuff/whatever. In my Kia Sportage, it was very uncomfortable for 2 people to be in there. DH had to have his seat all the way forward, so his knees were up against his chest pretty much.
    One thing though, I bought my car seat without doing much research- it was actually pretty much of an impulse buy because I found it clearance at target for 50% off, not thinking about size/space issues because my kia always seemed so big. So had I done some research, maybe I could have found a smaller one that worked better- but honestly it doesn't seem like that big of a car seat. It's an Eddie bauer one that came with the travel set (stroller). If you are thinking about a smaller vehicle, I would just do some measuring about how a car seat will fit and whether or not you will still be comfortable in the car with that.
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  • hoffsehoffse member
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    I don't think it's a silly question at all - I'm wondering the same thing.  It's the major reason why we're hung up on the civic vs. the accord right now.  I don't want to feel squeezed out of the civic.  But I also don't want to pay more for the accord if I'm being dumb about that.  And I'm not going to borrow a friend's carseat to take to the dealership....  Because even I think that's crazy :)

    One thing I've read about minivans is they have two really big perks: first, you can contain your escape artist children when you have more than one and you have to get in and out.  They have more space, so you can do everything from one side instead of having to go to both sides.  Second, the sliding doors prevent your kids from opening doors into other people's cars.  I had never thought about that until I read it - but I can certainly see the appeal to that.
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    I have 2 kids (one forward and one rear facing) and I drive a 2003 4-door Honda Civic. It works fine for day to day stuff. When I do get a new car, it'll probably be a newer Honda Civic or a Subaru Imprezza sedan (we get lots of snow, so all-wheel drive is great and I like to park in the garage which only fits smaller cars). DH has a 2006 Subaru Outback- which is smaller than the new versions and it's actually really hard to get DD#2 (rear facing) into his car with the way the back door is shaped and her car seat (Britax) is built. He really wants a new Subaru Forester- my parents have a 2010 so we put the car seats in theirs and tested it out.. it was awesome! So much room to get them in and out and I had plenty of leg room (I'm a little smooshed in the front passenger seat of the Outback because of the rear facing car seat). We've reached our kid quota at 2 so these types of cars work for us.. not everyone needs or wants a minivan/big SUV for their family.
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  • H has a 2 door Altima coupe, and we can't fit a rear facing carseat behind either seat unfortunately.  However we can fit a front facing seat behind the passenger side. 

    We will likely trade his car in for a 4 door by the time we have kids, but ONLY if we're paying cash for it.  No more car payments!  If we get pregnant before we can pay cash, then we will make it work. Even if it means using my car all the time and his solely being one he drives too and from work.

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  • I have driven subs and 2 door compact cars. If I didn't live somewhere I needed 4WD all winter, I would not be looking at a suv. I would look at a car I could fit 2 carseats in.
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    I'm not a mother, but we have a Kia Soul right now. It's actually my MIL's car. She leased it and we had to take over. She has MS and can no longer drive. (Don't get me started with the lease, but she did pay upfront so we don't have to deal with payments). It is a hatchback that is higher off the ground but it's pretty cramped with the three of us and her walker. (Not to mention it's the biggest piece of shi* I've ever driven, but you have to understand I grew up around Detroit muscle.) I can't wait to get rid of it in March. But for space reasons we will be getting something bigger like a Jeep or a Ford Edge. (Dreaming of a SRX but I don't think H will agree.)  But once you start driving an SUV it's hard to go back.
  • Thanks all! You have put my mind at ease. We'll have to see how my little car handles car seats when and if the time comes. I bet it will be fine; it's amazing how roomy it is. The kids I babysit actually thought it was bigger than my previous car, a Prius. I love hatchbacks for the space flexibility.
  • I had a 2004 Ford Escape that my H currently drives. I bought that car in high school because I wanted an SUV as my family car one day. I did/do really well putting Lexi in her car seat, both forward and rear facing.

    This past May, I bought a 2014 Hyundai Elantra. I can fit her forward facing car seat just fine and will be able to put in a rear-facing car seat if and when #2 comes along. DH will be trading in the Escape in March/April and will get either an SUV or another small car (he cannot make up his mind in this area so I don't know what kind yet). He wants a family car - all I ask for is it to hold the two car seats.

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  • There are some cars that can literally not fit a single car seat.  I used to have a 2-door Toyota corolla that we had to get rid of when we had our first kid. It was a high mileage car that we had had for many years, so for safely reasons we probably would have wanted to get rid of it anyway, but the car seat issue made it a no brainer.  We currently have 2 kids and a Hyundai sonata.   I would have preferred the elantra or the Honda Fit (I'm a small car person too), but we ended up with the larger sedan because DH is very tall.  He generally prefers slightly larger cars and we needed to be sure a car seat with child could fit with the driver's seat all the way back.  Fitting both car seats is not an issue and would not have been in some of the smaller sedans we looked at either.  Since we only have the 1 car, I have been glad in the end that we went with the Sonata because we totally fill up the trunk when we all go camping.   We would have needed a roof rack if we had gone with a smaller car.  I don't imagine we will ever move to an SUV or cross over.

    Not all car seats are the same dimensions, so it is important to make sure you get one that can fit in your car.  There used to be a website that helped you determine whether the car seat you were interested in would fit in your car, but it is no longer up and running (because it got too outdated?).  I did find this guide from Britax, though. http://fitfinder.britax.co.uk/  Britax car seats are usually some of the largest ones, so if you can fit one of these in your car you are probably okay.  I wasn't able to select the Honda Fit from their list, and I'm not sure what to make of that.
  • Thanks @maple2. The link doesn't work on my phone, but the Fit is sold as the Jazz in the UK so that's probably why it's not on the list. I'll check it out at home tonight!
  • Hmmm, I just tried the link and it didn't work for me either.  I'm not sure what the problem is, but you can just google "carseat car incompatibility" and the britax link is one of the first to come up.  I didn't know the year of your car, but it looks like there are several car seats that would fit in a Honda Jazz of indeterminate age.
  • We don't have kids yet, but we bought a crossover as a matter of preference for when we do. I wanted trunk space so I could take my dogs places, and I also wanted AWD for the snow and rain. I also felt a crossover was safer than a smaller car. The price of crossovers and SUVS is high, but for 24,000 we got a Honda CRV, and I felt that price was reasonable. We are very happy with our choice.
  • Right now we are looking at buying my moms CRV around Christmas 2015. It will be 4 years old and I know it will be a well loved car. We have a ford focus now which I love with all my heart and I would get a newer one be we have realized we will really need a small suv.
    DH came up with the prime example. We travel once a year to his hometown for a hockey tournament in memory of his grand father. If we have two kids in the back seat and a hockey bag that takes up the WHOLE trunk where is a pack n' play going to fit? Not to mention diaper bags and anything else we might need. We don't drive much but when we do we take trips to visit family for a few days at a time.
    We are hoping to be pregnant before we buy from my mother if we aren't we wouldn't buy. That would mean a year of trying and I would be sad if we got a bigger vehicle for nothing.

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  • Also. I have worked in a daycare and had to transport tons of kids. Our 07'focus fits three boosters tightly or a  frontward facing seat on the passenger side but I have never been able to fit an infant seat in that car and safely have a passenger up front. So it really isn't an option to have it once a baby is in the picture.

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  • FYI- All car seats should be fine for the Honda Fit. The first 9 months or so, chances are you're going to use an infant carrier, which has the bases and detachable carrier. When I just had DD#1, I was able to put it in the middle of my civic (check your car manual of course), but for DD#2, I had it behind the passenger seat. DH wasn't terribly comfortable in the passenger seat (he's 5'11") when we were all in the civic, but it's only for 9 months and we usually take the outback when all four of us are in the car anyway. She's now rear-facing behind the passenger seat (new guidelines say to keep them rear facing until 2 years) in a Britax Boulevard and we have a little extra space in the front passenger seat of both cars.

    As long as you have 4 doors, it really should be fine. Car seats expire/change so even if you test one out from a friend or something, it may not be the same when you're ready. Don't overthink it.. it's amazing how flexible you and your kids become if getting a new or bigger car isn't an option.

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  • Look at the cost of your choice for WANTING more space, not NEEDING more space.
    Car payments, increased cost of insurance, increased cost of registration/license plates and in some states personal property taxes.  Now - how about gas mileage.
    What does it do to your budget?

    For overall financial advice I recommend buying a slightly used vehicle that meets your needs at the best price possible - paying cash or financing no longer thana3 years.  (ex: If your needs can be met by a Toyota Corolla, don't buy anything larger. If you need more space only a few times a year - then rent a vehicle for those few times.  Much cheaper overall.  Stick with reliable brands with proven records.
  • Thanks everyone! This is something I had wondered about for a while. TTC is not in our immediate plans, but has been more on my mind lately.

    @Sisugal no worries, I plan to keep this car as long as it goes. Less space doesn't bother me; we're not planning a big family and I really love my Fit. Gas mileage is a huge factor for me-I loathe paying for gas. I was just curious if most new moms get a bigger car out of desire or necessity.

    It sounds like lots of PPs do upgrade out of necessity, but I don't think it will be necessary for us. We'll usually take H's car for trips so I'm not too worried about the passenger seat/leg room situation.
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