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Breast feeding trouble (long)

So many tears have been shed over breast feeding. She latches great but my supply sucks. We were using a supplemental nursing system but it ended up with both of us crying. I've started fenugreek, I'm pumping, we are doing frequent feedings and we still have to supplement with formula. I'm meeting with the lactation consultant tomorrow for her to weigh baby, I feed, then we weigh again. I am feeling like a total failure and am having total mom guilt about not being able to breast feed. She's one week old today so theoretically my milk should be in. The lactation consultant said that pcos girls sometimes have this trouble with supply due to the hormone imbalances which makes sense ... Anyone else not able to breast feed that wanted to? How did you cope with the guilt/ feelings of failure?
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Re: Breast feeding trouble (long)

  • You ARE NOT a failure. Not being able to breastfeed DOES NOT equal bad mom. What makes you a good mom is that you are pushing through those tough times to care for your baby by whatever means necessary. Hang in there! No matter what happens with your supply, you are a GOOD mom! ((Hugs))

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  • I have Pcos and horrible supply.
    Try not to feel guilty . You are doing the best you can !!! U deserve a medal!! For me, I ended up exclusively pumping. I found it less frustrating. It is hard work logistically but I knew how much he was getting
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  • When I pump I'm only getting 2-3 ml combined from both sides. And knowing she should be getting 2 oz or 60 mLs I'm just frazzled over it. I'll be anxious for this weight thing tomorrow. Even my lactation consultant was like ... Well maybe breast feeding isn't going to work for you. Yikes, even she's giving up on me! Everyone keeps telling me to relax but that is easier said than done.
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  • I gave up on BF recently and have been pumping; I'm currently weaning from the pump because my job is not pumping-friendly. It is a different situation but I feel the guilt too. I have no advice about BF but re: pumping--what kind of pump are you using? I rented a hospital grade pump for the first two months and it's way better than the personal pump I have now. That's the only suggestion I can give in addition to ((hugs)).
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  • sgautschi said:
    You ARE NOT a failure. Not being able to breastfeed DOES NOT equal bad mom. What makes you a good mom is that you are pushing through those tough times to care for your baby by whatever means necessary. Hang in there! No matter what happens with your supply, you are a GOOD mom! ((Hugs))

    All this!!! I hope the LC can help if that's what you want. 1 week is still so early, I hope your supply gets stronger but even if you have to FF that does not make you a bad mom!!

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  • My pediatrician was so great as I was sobbing in front if her today. She said our goal is a well fed, happy baby if that's all breast milk, all formula, or some of each we shouldn't care. I'm not ready to throw the towel in yet but I really am shocked by how difficult breast feeding is! Thank you for your support ladies. It helps knowing I'm not alone.
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  • I had lots of trouble with DD in the beginning. She was continuing to lose weight so at her 2 week appt. our pedi advised us to start supplementing and for me to start pumping. I totally understand feeling like a failure. I was so upset. Now I realize that was just silly because I was doing what I needed to in order to meet her needs.

    But i wasn't ready to call it quits, so I just kept at it. Took fenugreek until I smelled like maple syrup, drank tons of water, ate oatmeal, and kept pumping after feedings.

    Luckily my supply increased and after 10 days of supplementing (so about a month pp) I was producing enough and no longer needed to supplement. I went on to BF until DD was 15 mo old. I did have drops in supply ever now and again, but fenugreek always helped me bring it back up. And by that time I had a freezer stash to fall back on.

    This time around I relaxed more and figured whatever happened was going to happen and it'd be fine. I think the more relaxed attitude helped and DS was just a better nurser all around so we haven't had any issues. I mention this because even if it doesn't work now, that doesn't mean it can't work for any future kids if you choose to have them and want to try again.

    So keep at it of you truly want to, but also don't feel bad or guilty if it doesn't work. The most important thing is to make sure your baby is being fed and that mommy is happy and healthy. There's no shame in formula.

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  • Hugs! 

    I have said before - BF is one of the hardest things I have ever done. And you do it on 45 minutes of sleep!

    The BF board on the bump is helpful.

    Kelly Mom is my bible. Here is the info on increasing supply http://kellymom.com/bf/got-milk/supply-worries/low-supply/

    Everything on kelly mom is helpful though. tons of info.

    I had bad LC advice, honestly - they caused more problems than they helped. I have found that I am my best advocate. Mommy gut instincts help. 

    I have shared some of my BF story on here before. It is long. DS is 5.5 months old and EBF (I have supplemented with my own pumped milk and I pump for daycare now that he is at daycare). 

    Our issues have been many. DS lost 10% weight, i supplemented with my pumped milk (it had only just come in). DS refused the breast, I spent 2-3 days of HELL on earth getting him back on. I had to battle/convince DH I needed support not to be told just to feed formula. It took over 10 weeks for DS to be able to ditch the shield, gas/green poop/colic. DS wasn't gaining weight, I fed them pumped for 30 minutes after each feed for three weeks so I could supplement with my own milk to increase my supply when DS wasn't gaining around 2.5 months. When DS went to DC I wasn't able to pump enough (I think I had a drop in supply). I am now taking domperidone. I pump three times at work, before bed and I get up twice at night to pump so I have enough to send DS at daycare. 

    It has been a long, hard journey and it isn't over yet.

    Was it worth it to me? Yes. 

    Honestly, I just couldn't imagine giving up. A lot of times it will just white-knuckle sheer will that saw me through to the next day.

    Set little goals. Ask for help. Be kind to yourself. 

    I cried a lot. So very much. 

    Feel free to message me if you think I can be of any help, I would be happy to share what we did with DS. 
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  • My pediatrician was so great as I was sobbing in front if her today. She said our goal is a well fed, happy baby if that's all breast milk, all formula, or some of each we shouldn't care. I'm not ready to throw the towel in yet but I really am shocked by how difficult breast feeding is! Thank you for your support ladies. It helps knowing I'm not alone.
    I kind of equate BF with cooking. You can read a recipe and other people can tell you what to do - but if you haven't cooked before - that food isn't going to turn out so good the first time. It takes practice. Lots of practice. You aren't going to be whipping up souffle out of the gate. But with time, you will. Start with scrambled eggs and soon you will be able to make a souffle. Remember - your LO is learning how to BF too. 


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  • First off ((hugs)), what everyone has said is so right on but I just wanted to add that I suplemented the first probably month of my daughter's life. it took me a good 5 weeks to get my milk flowing and BFing established. By her 2 month appt I could, with confidence, tell her ped that she received all breastmilk. And I breastfed for 13 months.

    Don't give up! and in the same breath don't BEAT yourself up. Either way the pendulum swings is OKAY. Hang in there!
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  • There isn't really anything I can say that pps haven't said, but you are not a bad mom! Take it slow and if you end up ffing that's ok because baby is getting food. That's what's important! ((Hugs))

    "Do the best you can, until you know better. Then when you know better, do better." 

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  • I literally could have written your original post, from the PCOS, to the low supply, to the SNS, etc. My LO has a poor latch and is a lazy eater, too. I've woked with 3 LCs, and have switched to EPing and supplementing at this point, for various reasons. My supply was just like yours in the beginning, but at 2 weeks postpartum, I'm now able to get 1 oz (and sometimes even 1.5 oz) per pump, which is tiny for some, but feels HUGE for us. (I've decided to rent the hospital grade pump for the long haul, because it makes SUCH a difference.) I'm praying that my supply will continue to go up, and I'm trying so hard not to feel guilty over it. Your pediatrician said the same thing as mine- breastmilk, formula, whatever, the most important thing is a healthy baby! Hang in there, and know that you're doing everything you can!!!!
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  • Thanks for the encouragement. The weigh in this morning confirmed my gut feeling that I do not produce enough to feed my daughter only breast milk. I'm going to keep trying but I'm feeling less emotional about formula today knowing that it truly is needed and not me just giving up.
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