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Will affection ever return?

So we had our best friends over to specifically "get drunk" and I kept hugging my best friend, which I do all the time, she is more like a sister to me. And kissing her on the cheek. My DBF's exact words were you were going to cheat on me with our best friends and it's the same as cheating. I owned up to that and the possibility of trying to "shotgun" some vape pen smoke from his best friend. I understand that he is hurting, but he admits that I am very LUCKY that he loves me. That if I had actually cheated that he would be gone. I made a promise to never touch alcohol again, because in my mind it was the drinking that put me there. I honestly believed that my best friends boyfriend was my DBF. But he's going out of his way to hurt me, because he knows that I need physical affection because I never got that at home. So he says he loves me in the morning but hasn't hugged me in two days and I just got a quick peck on the lips back this morning. When we fought over the incident of attempted cheating, with him in the room mind you, he kept bringing up a woman he was engaged to previously that called him and told him she cheated consciously. I had zero memory of anything but being close with my best friend. So here's the questions

1. How did you take the suffering your SO felt was necessary to ease their pain? The verbal and physical?

2. Did you also feel like your SO was being hurtful on purpose?

3. How to I continue to show him I love him and build his trust without pushing him away?

Thank You!

Re: Will affection ever return?

  • edited February 2014
    So we had our best friends over to specifically "get drunk" and I kept hugging my best friend, which I do all the time, she is more like a sister to me. And kissing her on the cheek. My DBF's exact words were you were going to cheat on me with our best friends and it's the same as cheating. I owned up to that and the possibility of trying to "shotgun" some vape pen smoke from his best friend. I understand that he is hurting, but he admits that I am very LUCKY that he loves me. That if I had actually cheated that he would be gone. I made a promise to never touch alcohol again, because in my mind it was the drinking that put me there. I honestly believed that my best friends boyfriend was my DBF. But he's going out of his way to hurt me, because he knows that I need physical affection because I never got that at home. So he says he loves me in the morning but hasn't hugged me in two days and I just got a quick peck on the lips back this morning. When we fought over the incident of attempted cheating, with him in the room mind you, he kept bringing up a woman he was engaged to previously that called him and told him she cheated consciously. I had zero memory of anything but being close with my best friend. So here's the questions

    1. How did you take the suffering your SO felt was necessary to ease their pain? The verbal and physical?

    2. Did you also feel like your SO was being hurtful on purpose?

    3. How to I continue to show him I love him and build his trust without pushing him away?

    Thank You!
    You've got a myriad of problems.

    You have a bit more than an alcohol problem if you have zero memory of the incident. You had a blackout, it looks like --- and that is bad news. I don't know how much you usually drink but a blackout is not normal.

    I would, if I were you, get to a doc for a full evaluation --- and I would also get to Alcoholics Anonymous, if I were you.

    you just can't "quit" drinking if you have a a true drinking problem. AA members will tell you that's called a "dry drunk" and that means you are not officially in recovery with AA's help.

    I am not sure that there was any "cheating" here at all.

    And what do you mean you got together with them for the sake of getting drunk? Are you guys still in ninth grade or what????

    You need better friends, with brains and their heads screwed onto their shoulders! Who gets together to get drunk????

    This is only a SO and not a husband?

    Perhpas you are better off calling it a day with him and moving on.  I am not crazy about the way he keeps mentioning a former ladyfriend; it's like this is some kind of kick in the shins and like he's rubbing this in for you. Not a mature thing to do.

    You're going to have to decide if you want this guy around for the long run.
  • I'd really like to weigh in here, but I'm so lost by this whole thing that I really can't even make out what the issue IS.... there's a lot of weird, weird stuff happening here. 

    *taps out* 

    Anybody else?
  • Yeah, I am having a hard time understanding what is going on too.

    The only advice I think I can say is that I don't think you two are a good match for each other.  
  • cclejeune said:

    I'd really like to weigh in here, but I'm so lost by this whole thing that I really can't even make out what the issue IS.... there's a lot of weird, weird stuff happening here. 


    *taps out* 

    Anybody else?
    This was me. I read it right after it posted. The only thing I could think of to say was

    "Uh... Tarpon?"

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  • DawnLilly said:
    I'd really like to weigh in here, but I'm so lost by this whole thing that I really can't even make out what the issue IS.... there's a lot of weird, weird stuff happening here. 

    *taps out* 

    Anybody else?
    This was me. I read it right after it posted. The only thing I could think of to say was "Uh... Tarpon?"
    What I interpreted it as:

    The OP's boyfriend thought that she has a thing for her girlfriend and evidently the OP kissed the girlfriend for fun(?)...and she cannot remember what happened after that.

    That is how I interpreted it.
  • Once upon a time, I also quit drinking because my mouth kept getting me in trouble. I admire that you saw that you were not in control of your faculties due to drinking, and have chosen not to drink.
    However, your BF sounds controlling and manipulative. You're lucky that he loves you? Withholding affection as punishment? Accusing you of cheating because you were being overly affectionate with your BFF? Penalizing you because an XGF cheated on him? At best, he needs help dealing with his baggage. At worst, he's picking fights with you to make you feel guilty and go out of your way to make it up to him. Does he do this often? Because it sounds like you have the makings of an abusive relationship on your hands. Google "cycle of abuse." It sounds like you are on step 2, and I expect that he's going to be all apologetic and affectionate before this starts again. Remember, not all abuse is physical.
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  • To Tarpon, I appreciate that you weighed in on the possibility that I have an Alcohol problem, I rarely ever drink, this is the first time ever I have been hazy about things that happened while I was drinking, when I go out to a bar, last time being November, I have one or two drinks. The last time I was anywhere near drunk was St. Patty's day '13. The reason we got together to "get drunk" is because we had never really drank together as a unit of four and we found out I don't have cancer, and it was a relief to all of us. I don't drink in places that I don't feel safe, I was in my home, with three people that I love, and I expected them to keep me in line or tell me when I was out of control, and they didn't. I am in fact the DD most of the time when my friends go out, because I don't like feeling like I don't have control of a situation to keep my friends safe from making rash choices.

    To Mrs.Rad, He does not do this at all, when talking to his mom (not about this, but around Christmas time) she said she was not going to get "attached" to me until he was past his one year mark. And I kinda gave her a funny look, his family unit has moved alot, about 37 times since he was born, and I knew going in that I would have to ground him and that his interpersonal skills were lacking. He makes friends slowly for fear of losing them and has admitted to me that even his parents are no longer his support system I am. 

    And I hurt him, it really doesn't matter if I did it intentionally or not, I did and I apologized and made a choice to prevent hurting him in the future. I would hope that eventually I get my old SO back, considering we're now a month out from our one year. But at the same time am I emotionally ready to fight for this? Yes. A resounding yes. He brought me out from a darkness as well, and I do think we have to have a discussion between him and I, but I am so emotionally drained at this moment that I can't get through to him without crying. 
  • To Tarpon, I appreciate that you weighed in on the possibility that I have an Alcohol problem, I rarely ever drink, this is the first time ever I have been hazy about things that happened while I was drinking, when I go out to a bar, last time being November, I have one or two drinks. The last time I was anywhere near drunk was St. Patty's day '13. The reason we got together to "get drunk" is because we had never really drank together as a unit of four and we found out I don't have cancer, and it was a relief to all of us. I don't drink in places that I don't feel safe, I was in my home, with three people that I love, and I expected them to keep me in line or tell me when I was out of control, and they didn't. I am in fact the DD most of the time when my friends go out, because I don't like feeling like I don't have control of a situation to keep my friends safe from making rash choices.

    To Mrs.Rad, He does not do this at all, when talking to his mom (not about this, but around Christmas time) she said she was not going to get "attached" to me until he was past his one year mark. And I kinda gave her a funny look, his family unit has moved alot, about 37 times since he was born, and I knew going in that I would have to ground him and that his interpersonal skills were lacking. He makes friends slowly for fear of losing them and has admitted to me that even his parents are no longer his support system I am. 

    And I hurt him, it really doesn't matter if I did it intentionally or not, I did and I apologized and made a choice to prevent hurting him in the future. I would hope that eventually I get my old SO back, considering we're now a month out from our one year. But at the same time am I emotionally ready to fight for this? Yes. A resounding yes. He brought me out from a darkness as well, and I do think we have to have a discussion between him and I, but I am so emotionally drained at this moment that I can't get through to him without crying. 
    It kind of does. My XH would get upset over things that he shouldn't have, and I just learned to accept them in kind of an "Oops! I should have known better than to do that, because that upsets him!" way. You know what? He shouldn't have been getting upset by them, and it was not my fault that he was.

    However, without knowing what you actually did that upset him, it's hard to evaluate his reaction. If you kissed your best friend like a sister? Total overreaction. If you kissed your best friend in an open-mouthed tongue wrestle and then proposed that you, she, and her boyfriend run off and have a threesome? I can see why he'd be upset.
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  • GilliC, it's like a sister relationship, we've been bff's since HS, I was the first person she came to when she found out her mom had breast cancer. I don't say "Love you" to my parents when I get off the phone with them, but I do with her. It was a hug and I turned her head away from me to kiss her on the cheek. Of the four people involved in this issue three of us believe he is overreacting and making a mountain out of a mole hill.
  • So, wait --- he got all crazy over a simple form of affection you had for a friend.

    He sounds like a nutter. if that is the case.
  • GilliC, it's like a sister relationship, we've been bff's since HS, I was the first person she came to when she found out her mom had breast cancer. I don't say "Love you" to my parents when I get off the phone with them, but I do with her. It was a hug and I turned her head away from me to kiss her on the cheek. Of the four people involved in this issue three of us believe he is overreacting and making a mountain out of a mole hill.
    That's what he's upset about? Where did all the "You were going to cheat" stuff come from (that you owned up to)?
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  • This is baffling.  How old are the two of you?
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  • No one ever says how old they are... :(
  • A kiss on the cheek and saying I love you got him this riled up...  Wow.  
    I agree with Mrs.Rad888 that this sounds like abuse.
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  • anabelle24anabelle24 member
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    edited February 2014
    Getting together with friends just to get "drunk"... Ah, those were the days.

    But hum. I'm super confused. I read your original post over and over trying to figure out if you kissed a GIRL on the cheek and he's upset you are going to cheat with her, or if he got upset about this smoke thing with a GUY friend of his... I'm super lost.

    If he's upset about you being sloppy drunk and hugging and kissing your girl friend on the cheek and he's been giving you the cold shoulder all this time, bringing up an ex who "cheating in her mind" and admitted it to him, we have deeper issues. I don't know how old you are but you aren't married to this guy so if you see any red flags in the dating stages of a relationship, you should see them for what they are. He sounds emotionally immature. And just because he saved you when you were in a dark stage, is your knight in shining armour, etc. does not mean he is The One for you or that he has a right to guilt you and make you pay for his own insecurities. It sounds to me he's still not over that ex who "cheated in her mind"... Its ok for him to talk about it once or twice in the context of past experiences but not in order to make you feel bad in the present...

    As for you getting drunk and losing it, you're going to realize sooner than later that some types of alcohol brands just don't agree with you, and you need to stay away from them from now on. I know a lot of people (myself included) who can have several (5-6+) drinks of XYZ and have a blast and be grounded, but 2 drinks of XYZ (on a separate occasion of course) and lose it completely and have the worst hangover the day after. I don't drink often anymore but I've gone through that stage and I've learned my limits. The hard way unfortunately.

  • One thing I have noticed about these knights in shining armor ?  It is that they purposely go out looking for damsels in distress.  Do you know why they do it ?  Because they want servitude.  They want a woman that will be so grateful that he " rescued " them and in return expect you to worship them.  You will never, ever be their equal.  Do you understand ?  Never.  If you ever do come to a place of happiness and contentment, well they they will go out and find a new damsel in distress.  Do you want to be a damsel in distress for the rest of your life ?
  • He has some huge problems if you're not allowed to hug a female friend and kiss her on the cheek. And how the hell was that cheating?? If you kissed your mom or someone else you love on the cheek, would that be cheating? He sounds seriously troubled.
  • ClaryPaxClaryPax member
    100 Comments Second Anniversary 5 Love Its
    edited February 2014
    I get that you rarely drink, but you need to limit your drinks to 1-2 maximum if you can't remember anything more than kissing your friend on the cheek and leaning close to friend's BF.  If you weren't this fuzzy on what happened, then you would know how to react to the fight without asking us here.  Meaning you would know if your BF was overreacting or being mean?  Or if you (by your BF point of view) were actually pushing for a threesome/ foursome. 

    Also, cancer aside, having people over to "get drunk" is not a great idea.  This is something you do in college (early 20's), and basically you need to grow out of that if you are 23 or older. 
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