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How do I support my mother?

Sorry in advance this may get a little long. My mother and step father have been married for 8 years, since day one I have never approved of him, and actually told my mom not to marry him. He has never done anything bad to me, but the type of person he is is what I disliked the most. He is a very angry person, a know it all, a jerk, you have to walk on egg shells around him, luckily I never lived in their home because I graduated high school the year they got married. However, my younger brother who is six years younger grew up in that household and my brother was miserable, my stepdad acted like a tyrant and basically thought my brother was bad but for no reason at all, he did well in school, had a job, never did drugs, didn't have bad friends nothing, he was a little sassy maybe lazy at times but nothing that would warrant the discipline he got growing up. There has always been a strained relationship with my step father and my family, and his own family as well. He blows up on people is disrespectful and just rude 90% of the time. He and my mom moved away from my mother's hometown with all of her family and basically isolated her. Any friends that they had as a couple he ruined every relationship. They had another child my littlest brother whom I adore and wouldn't trade for the world. I know without my step father he wouldn't be here, so I can't wish he was never in the picture.

My SF can't hold a job he burns all his bridges, he was out of work for a few years due to a work related injury, even then my mom was 100% the caregiver to my littlest brother. While my SF was unemployed and home everyday, he still had a nanny come and take care of my brother, this nanny is one of my best friends so I know. Anyways my SF sued his past employer for wrongful termination, and workman's compensation. He won the workman's comp suit, the wrongful termination just finished, HE LOST. My mom has been there for him to help and console him throughout these last few years, it has been tough they have screwed up their financials so bad that they are looking towards bankruptcy, my SF is horrible with money always buying the best most expensive and he also came into the marriage with massive debt. My mom had zero before she met him and owned a condo.

Once the wrongful termination suit ended and he lost then he tells my mom he wants a divorce and then leaves her and my brother to pursue work outside of the state since no one will hire him in his industry, and he has been staying with family in another state. My mom tried to convince him to work things out and let her help him but he said he made up his mind. This was just all in JANUARY. My mom was left alone in another town, when she told me and my family we all decided she and my brother needed to return to our town. My H and I immediatly helped her move out and have set her and my brother up here. Conversations between my mom and SF were chaotic, and he was very mean. At one point I asked what everyone was thinking, was there someone else because his behavior was so immediate. Literally a week after he left maybe not that long a picture popped up on FB of him and another woman. In my head I jump to the worst but I don't know her and don't know their relationship so I tell my mom what I have seen and ask her if she knows anything. She recognized the woman because it was a friend of his but doesn't know why they are together. She confronts my SF and he goes bezerk saying she doesn't know anything and that he isn't seeing anyone else.

My mom and brother last week went back to their home to get the last stuff packed to complete the move, my SF is also there to sort stuff and see my brother. Now after briefly speaking with my mom she said they are going to try and work on things but she will still be living in our town and he will too depending on his work situation. I always knew my mom wasn't ready to give up on her marriage so I told her that if it came to that, this time things need to be done on her terms and he is the one that needs to change, she agreed.

My family is going to be shocked, my family will not be very forgiving or accepting, hell I am not sure if I will be either. But I don't want to put my mom in that place, and it's my brothers father so I don't want him to be put in that place of having to choose. If anything it may just not work out between them and we won't ever have to worry, but now I feel like it will be very awkward.

So my question is how do I be objective and not have my personal bias against my SF if she and him are going to try and work through things and my SF genuinly wants to change?  Sorry if this was confusing, I feel like the history helps set this up.

Re: How do I support my mother?

  • Sorry in advance this may get a little long. My mother and step father have been married for 8 years, since day one I have never approved of him, and actually told my mom not to marry him.

    This would be your mother's husband. Not your step dad, if you were nearly a full grown adult when they married.

    He has never done anything bad to me, but the type of person he is is what I disliked the most. He is a very angry person, a know it all, a jerk, you have to walk on egg shells around him, luckily I never lived in their home because I graduated high school the year they got married.

    So it's your mother's husband.

    However, my younger brother who is six years younger grew up in that household and my brother was miserable, my stepdad acted like a tyrant and basically thought my brother was bad but for no reason at all, he did well in school, had a job, never did drugs, didn't have bad friends nothing, he was a little sassy maybe lazy at times but nothing that would warrant the discipline he got growing up.

    What worries me: why didn't your mother let this slide??? Why was her husband permitted to dish out all the "discipline"?

    There has always been a strained relationship with my step father and my family, and his own family as well. He blows up on people is disrespectful and just rude 90% of the time. He and my mom moved away from my mother's hometown with all of her family and basically isolated her.

    None of this bodes well -- this sounds like a guy who was an abuser, to me. The isolation part of it was the give away.

    Any friends that they had as a couple he ruined every relationship. They had another child my littlest brother whom I adore and wouldn't trade for the world. I know without my step father he wouldn't be here, so I can't wish he was never in the picture.

    So sorry for your kid brother. This is bad news for him and a toxic atmosphere.

    My SF can't hold a job he burns all his bridges, he was out of work for a few years due to a work related injury, even then my mom was 100% the caregiver to my littlest brother.

    How come your mother is WITH this pig? That's the big mystery.

    While my SF was unemployed and home everyday, he still had a nanny come and take care of my brother, this nanny is one of my best friends so I know. Anyways my SF sued his past employer for wrongful termination, and workman's compensation. He won the workman's comp suit, the wrongful termination just finished, HE LOST.

    Pity for his ass.

    And perhaps the nanny was a godsend to your brother. He needed somebody positive in that household. His stepfather is a pig and his mother? doesn't care.

    My mom has been there for him to help and console him throughout these last few years, it has been tough they have screwed up their financials so bad that they are looking towards bankruptcy, my SF is horrible with money always buying the best most expensive and he also came into the marriage with massive debt. My mom had zero before she met him and owned a condo.

    Let me warn you right now:

    Under NO circumstances at all give your mother any money. NONE.

    You don't know what's at hand there or why exactly all the debt got rung up. It could be her husband's doing, her doing or both. You'll never find out.

    Either way, give her no money.

    Because if you do, I guarantee you you'll be their permanent source of money for years to come --- and wow, this can not only put you in the poorhouse and drain you dry, it will also ruin your marriage.

    You and your H are THE FAMILY now.

    Not your mother and her pig husband.

    Your first obligation is to your husband, not anybody else.

    And you and your H are not obligated to give your mother a dime.

    Once the wrongful termination suit ended and he lost then he tells my mom he wants a divorce and then leaves her and my brother to pursue work outside of the state since no one will hire him in his industry, and he has been staying with family in another state.

    Really?

    Let him STAY where he is! He will do everyone a favor if he does.

    My mom tried to convince him to work things out and let her help him but he said he made up his mind. This was just all in JANUARY.

    I'll bet that he has somebody on the side. All of a sudden, he wants out? Fishy indeed.

    My mom was left alone in another town, when she told me and my family we all decided she and my brother needed to return to our town. My H and I immediatly helped her move out and have set her and my brother up here.

    I don't know where she is staying but if it is with you and your H, there needs to be a financial agreement -- when she gets on her feet, she needs to find a place of her own and take your kid brother with her.

    Conversations between my mom and SF were chaotic, and he was very mean. At one point I asked what everyone was thinking, was there someone else because his behavior was so immediate. Literally a week after he left maybe not that long a picture popped up on FB of him and another woman.

    Wot did I tell ya!!!

    I am play by playing your post as I respond. SURE there is another bird in the picture! Why do you think his ass wants OUT???

    Your mother needs to divorce him -- this is adultery -- and that's that.

    In my head I jump to the worst but I don't know her and don't know their relationship so I tell my mom what I have seen and ask her if she knows anything. She recognized the woman because it was a friend of his but doesn't know why they are together. She confronts my SF and he goes bezerk saying she doesn't know anything and that he isn't seeing anyone else.

    Nope; your mother's H knows the score. And if you will, please stay out of this part. This is a hotbed and it will also be a "he said she said."

    She needs to get rid of this bum. Even if NOBODY is in the picture at all.

    My mom and brother last week went back to their home to get the last stuff packed to complete the move, my SF is also there to sort stuff and see my brother.

    Yay and hooray to him for seeing your brother. Big deal.

    Now after briefly speaking with my mom she said they are going to try and work on things but she will still be living in our town and he will too depending on his work situation. I always knew my mom wasn't ready to give up on her marriage so I told her that if it came to that, this time things need to be done on her terms and he is the one that needs to change, she agreed.

    My family is going to be shocked, my family will not be very forgiving or accepting, hell I am not sure if I will be either. But I don't want to put my mom in that place, and it's my brothers father so I don't want him to be put in that place of having to choose. If anything it may just not work out between them and we won't ever have to worry, but now I feel like it will be very awkward.

    So my question is how do I be objective and not have my personal bias against my SF if she and he are going to try and work through things and my SF genuinely wants to change?  Sorry if this was confusing, I feel like the history helps set this up.

    What yu do with the rest:

    Stay out of it.

    Your mother is going to have to be the one to decide he is to go. Who knows? She may do it, she may not. She may decide to keep this jerk.

    Stay out of it.

    And give her no money.

    That's my advice.

    And if you think your brother is in danger, get CPS to investigate. I'll bet there is abuse in that house, judging from what you have said.
  • Sillygirl45Sillygirl45 member
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    edited February 2014
    Your step father isn't going to change. Your mom will try to keep him (for some reason I canot understand) but he will not change. 

    The only way this marriage will end--at this point--is if he wants it to end. Considering most people won't put up with his shit, I predict a long back and forth.

    Your mom needs to get into individual counseling to figure out why on earth she feels she deserves this and how to break away from him.

    You try to stay out of it and be there for her. She will need someone she can be honest with and reach out to when the shit hits the fan. And it will. 

    This is abuse. Again, your mom needs therapy ASAP. Please do what you can to make sure she gets it. Ultimately, she is going to have to be the one to come to terms with the reality of this situation though. Good luck. 
  • Thanks, FYI to everyone I have not given money just mine and my husbands time to help with the move. Also she is not staying with us. So no worries there. My mom wants counseling. My mom has previously said before she married him out of desperation not financial as I have stated but because she thought she would never find anyone else who wanted to be with her, she had a couple long term boyfriends but they fizzled so he was the next jerk who stepped up. Sad on her part, now I feel like she is staying for my brother, also sad. He has never been physical with anyone, but I agree he is emotionally and mentally abusive. I was really hoping this marriage was done for because he initiated everything. However, I also knew there could be some reconciliation, for my brothers sake. As of right now I think they will try reconciliation but we will see how that goes. It may not, so then this will all blow over.

    I'll try to stay out of it all but also be there. Let's hope my disdain for him isn't so obvious because that doesn't really help anything.

    Thanks!
  • The best thing your mom can do for your brother is not have his dad be his primary role model for how a man acts. I'm sure she does not want him growing up to be like him.

    Maybe that point will help to get her thinking that this isn't healthy for anyone, most especially your brother. 
  • I think it's totally okay to hate your stepfather, because he is a douche.  Try to be gentle with your mom, though, so she knows that no matter what, she can always turn to you.
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  • Why do you think your little brother would be better off  with his father in the home?

  • @ Chiualover, I didn't say that and that isn't my decision to make anyhow. I am actually disappointed my mom would want to continue this relationship. I can't really stop her or make her decisions for her though, so I will just have to do my best to be supportive to my mom and brother, while staying out of my mom and her husband's issues.

  • Why do you think your little brother would be better off  with his father in the home?

    @ Chiualover, I didn't say that and that isn't my decision to make anyhow. I am actually disappointed my mom would want to continue this relationship. I can't really stop her or make her decisions for her though, so I will just have to do my best to be supportive to my mom and brother, while staying out of my mom and her husband's issues.

    Maybe I misunderstood your previous comments. I personally have no sympathy for a woman who puts a husband/boyfriend before her children.

    Your brother needs all the support he can get. But imho, your mother needs tough love. Not support. I had been in a very bad relationship years ago, when my support people told me that they didn't want to hear it anymore, and to do something about it, well, it was the best thing that they could have done for me.

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