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Thoughts on moving

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edited April 2014 in Money Matters

Our school district just approved to close 3 schools starting the 2016-2017 school year. This would effect where our girls go to middle school. Their current middle school (grades 6-8) would close and they would end up at a different one for grades 5-7. This new school is fine (test scores, teachers), but I'm uncomfortable with the location- it's surrounded by a lot of run down apartment buildings and a 7-eleven... it just doesn't feel like a place we want our 10-12 year old girls to go. The elementary (grades K-4) and high school (grades 8-12) are great, so it would just be grades 5-7.

We bought this house in 2007- no kids at the time, but I picked the neighborhood specifically for the schools and the style of houses. We truly love our house, the neighborhood, and we put quite a bit of $ (brand new kitchen, roof, gutters, side door, porch, etc) into it. Plus this house will be paid off in 2025 at the latest, which is awesome. If we do decide to move, we really can't for 3 years- day care is way too much ($1,700/month) to be able to afford a larger home (thinking this next one would be our forever home) in a different district (FYI- the different district only has 1 middle, 1 high school.. hopefully not much room for closures and redistricting).

Am I being a big snob about this middle school? Should we get an official plan on getting the house ready to sell in Spring 2017 (DD#2's last year of day care)? What does MM think? Thanks!

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Re: Thoughts on moving

  • I wouldn't worry too much about it. I understand where you are coming from when it comes to the area, but if they are being picked up/dropped off by the bus or even you or your H, there should be no issue in safety concerns, since there is someone watching the kids going in. Everything is being supervised these days, even with security cameras. If the school is great overall - grades, teachers, etc - I wouldn't worry about 3 years of school with each of your DDs. 

    It just seems too much to move just because of one school.

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  • I wouldn't worry about it either.  I attended junior high/middle school in an area like the one you are describing.  It was perfectly fine.  We had a grocery store nearby that kids would sometimes go to after school, and in retrospect that was probably a bit foolish - but nothing ever happened. The area for recess, etc. was fenced in, so the only way to get into and out of the building or its premises was through the front doors and past the front office which had security cameras and required all adults (other than staff) to sign in.  As long as your girls are being picked up and dropped off right there, it ought to be perfectly safe.

    I would be a lot more concerned about the quality of teachers, etc. than the physical location of the school.
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  • Oh and maybe education has changed in the last 10 years... but why is high school grades 8-12?  Is that a new thing?

    That would not have been good for me - I had my rebel year in grade 8 and made crappy grades.  Then I straightened out in grade 9 and made great grades going forward.  If grade 8 had been counted toward college admissions I wouldn't have gotten in where I did.  It's really hard to convince a 13-year-old to start preparing for college admissions...
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  • hoffse said:
    Oh and maybe education has changed in the last 10 years... but why is high school grades 8-12?  Is that a new thing?

    That would not have been good for me - I had my rebel year in grade 8 and made crappy grades.  Then I straightened out in grade 9 and made great grades going forward.  If grade 8 had been counted toward college admissions I wouldn't have gotten in where I did.  It's really hard to convince a 13-year-old to start preparing for college admissions...


    It's a new thing for the district with this approved plan. Right now, their schools are typical- K-5, 6-8, 9-12. Now with this plan, it'll be K-4, 5-7, 8-12.. I'm assuming they'll keep the 8th graders kind of separated, but not really sure. The one plan that I actually liked, but didn't get approved was K-6 at the elementary and 7-12 at the high school. The 7 and 8 would have their own area, gym, cafeteria. I had my trouble year in 7th grade- I think that's why I'm so worried about them going to that other middle school.

    The good thing is that we have some time to figure it out- we're going to get a list of things we need to do to our current house started this summer anyway.. can't hurt to be prepared.

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  • Another thing to take into consideration, will it be worth it to give up a house you love, a neighborhood you love and uproot your kids moving them at that point from their friends they have grown up with?

  • Erikan73 said:

    Another thing to take into consideration, will it be worth it to give up a house you love, a neighborhood you love and uproot your kids moving them at that point from their friends they have grown up with?

    Yeah I know- that's why I'm thinking if we do move, it'll be best to do it in 2017. DD#1 will be going into 2nd grade and DD#2 will be just starting kindergarten. I moved a lot in elementary school- 4 times by 4th grade, so I definitely don't want to have them feel the type of stress that I did. The good thing is that the new district we're considering is only 10-15 minutes away, has beautiful old (larger and more expensive) homes, really nice neighborhoods. It would definitely be a step up.. just not sure if we want to take that on when we have a pretty good thing going on with our current house (aside from this whole school closing thing).
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  • I would stay.  Personally, I didn't really spend any time outside in Middle School-we were packed tightly with classes.  If the district is good and the teachers are good, that's what matters.  

    As an aside, these unusual grade groupings are becoming really common.  They're shocking to our generation because they're so different, but there's a lot of educational research to support them.  7th and 8th graders tend to behave more when 5th graders are in the building, and 8th graders can get more serious more quickly when placed in the high school environment.  I doubt 8th grade will count for college admissions just because it's in the same building as the high school-hopefully the teaching will still be developmentally appropriate.  

    What they taught us in my education program was that 7th and 8th grade being alone in a school is pretty much the worst situation for learning outcomes.  A lot of us have tumultuous years at that age, and without younger kids to role model for or older kids to look up to, they can end up as wasted years entirely.  It's interesting stuff (too me at least!)  At the same time, I totally understand why it's unnerving for parents.  I think too often districts just present it as a cost saving measure.  OP, I would have been with you on supporting that alternative plan, but what they decided on probably won't be too bad.  
  • Your daughers are still young, you have a while until you have to worry about this. A lot of things change. Who knows how the neighborhood will change in 5 years or 10 years. IF once your daughter is of age to enter that school and its truly completely horrible and unexceptable then you can always do private school for a few years. Higher income homes could be built, the apartment complex could close or go under new management, the 7-eleven could close. Don't count on the condition of the neighborhood to stay the same.

    Don't let this be a factor in your plans for your future. If you want to move anyway then thats one thing, but don't move because of one school.

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  • We're kind of wondering about moving and schools lately too. Our kids are 1 and 3, and all schools in our county are great, however, our elementary and middle specifically are only 5/10 on great schools.org while all others in the county are 8-10. If we move, we'd want a bigger house, anyway, and we'd get into a better school district while we're at it. I have some friends whose kids go to these 5/10 schools, so I think I'll talk with them about how they like it, too. :) I think we will most likely stay and let them try it.
  • I was checking out using the one school rating site and I found out that my brother is lying about how good the public schools are in Ohio.  I live in Akron, and they suck.  Only in the very rich area of the city are the schools decent.  My brother teaches in Columbus and they are only slightly better.

    I hope your schools are better, but I am sending my son to private schools all 12 years, not to charter schools which in most cases are even worse then the public schools.
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