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Help: getting kid ready for school

I swear I post this every 6 months or so...so here I am again. Dd is very strong willed/stubborn. Getting ready for daycare was usually a challenge too and has been since she was old enough to start getting ready herself.

Getting ready for school is bad. At least with daycare we didn't have the pressure of making the bus! Everyday she whines about not wanting to go to school. She doesn't love school but when I ask her if there is a specific problem there doesn't seem to be.

Yet every morning she struggles. She goes to bed between 7:45-8 and alarm goes off at 6:30. I really can't get her to bed any earlier. And can't wake her up later. She spends a half hour whining and just not doing anything despite multiple prodding a by us. Then she finally gets ready and it's a race every day to make the bus. Today she finally missed it (can't believe it hasn't happened before).

I don't know what to do anymore. She makes me want to pull out my hair! We have tried reward charts with moderate success. I even made up a new one to start again this morning but that clearly didn't work. Yelling, threatening, explaining how it affects us making us late for work doesn't work. I am so sick of this. Dh and I end up fighting about it too. I swear this kid tests my patience every single second! After 5 years of fighting her to get ready I am at the end of my rope!!!

Advice?
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Re: Help: getting kid ready for school

  • Waking up in the morning is very difficult for me (regardless of how much or how little sleep I get), so some of the things that I do is to sleep with my curtains open so that any amount of morning light will help wake me up.  I use an alarm clock that gradually gets louder.  I also try to time my wake up so that I am waking up in between sleep cycles. (there's a website that will calculate it for me - I can't think of it off the top of my head, but basically it's every 90 minutes).

    I know she's tired in the morning, but what about waking her up a little earlier, even if it's just a few minutes to give you some extra time?

    Send her to school as is in the morning.  If it's PJ's and messy hair, then so be it.

    Put her to bed in her clothes for the next day.

    For the reward system, have you tried using a timer for each task that she needs to complete?  If she is done before the timer = reward; if she is not = consequence.

    Is there anything in the morning that she could look forward to once she is ready? (coloring, dancing to a song, etc.)

    I try to avoid yelling/threatening at all costs, because I've found that not only makes the situation worse, but it stresses us all out.

    If nothing is working, maybe try talking to the Pediatirican or behavoior specialist for ideas.

     

  • Send her to school as is in the morning.  If it's PJ's and messy hair, then so be it.

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    This - my kids have no problem getting up in the morning, but staying focused is another beast to contend with. I give two warnings and then the wooden spoon comes out. A quick loud rap on the counter will help them stop horsing around and re-focus their attention.

    If it doesn't, then I walk out the door when it's time and tell them I am warming up the car and that they have one minute. They have no choice but to follow, semi-dressed or not, but miraculously,they finish dressing in lightening speed at that point!

    My husband works night shift into day, most days, so I fly solo with the 3. I have to stay on track with them or else it's disastrous and I'm in a horrible mood by the time I get to work.

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    My three sons!

  • I was also going to suggest sending her to school as is.  "if you're not ready by this time, you have to go to school with pj's, unbrushed hair, unbrushed teeth, etc because I can't be late for work.", and if she's not ready, do it.   It won't really hurt her to go to school like that, but I'd guess she won't like it.  

    I have told mine that I was leaving without them.  (Of course I never would) And I get my coat, my keys and purse and I go to the car.  Usually before I'm through the basement and to the garage, they're yelling after me to wait.  

    Do you think it would help to involve the school?  Maybe have the principal explain what being tardy means and why it's not good to have a bunch of "tardy" marks on your report card.  Noah tried to put himself in his locker on Friday (WTH!) and his teacher made him go to the office and tell the principal what he had done.  That was probably THE worst punishment she could have given him. And I'm sure it spoke volumes and he won't be doing that again.  
  • Thanks ladies. I think I will talk to her about how she will have to go to school as is if she doesn't get ready. In the past we haven't done that because she actually would have preferred going in PJs so it wasn't much of a consequence! But now that she is in kindergarten she probably wouldn't like it. Although half the morning she is just naked so I'm not sure how much that will work. As much as I can threaten that she will leave the house like that I can't really follow through with that! Afraid the school would have issues with that haha! You'd think that would encourage her to get ready but it really won't. She is so stubborn.

    Also Meghan's idea of having her wear her clothes to bed...I actually did that a couple years ago. I may have to give that a try again. Maybe tell her she can do that or she needs to promise to get ready or she's going in her PJs.
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  • Amber...involving the school actually could have been perfect today. Too bad I didn't think about that! I had to drop her off and we were almost late. If she would have been actually late and gotten a tardy then maybe I could have had them talk to her.

    Maybe I will fib and tell her I had to talk to the principal after she went to her room and how she can't be late, etc.
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  • our routine is rather different- EJ goes to bed at 8:30 but doesn't catch the bus until 8:50 in the morning. So she generally sleeps until around 7:30, watches tv and eats breakfast until 8:30 and then gets dressed in those last 20 minutes. We still argue and need to prod her along some days when she can't find the "only dress that twirls" or whatever.  But it isn't bad. I couldn't imagine having to get her up and moving at 6:30 every day.  So I don't really have any great advice, but try to be patient.  She is probably still tired, and not a morning person :)
  • There is an app called Sleep Cycle that does a gradual wake-up. I got it free from Starbucks. But you set what time is the latest you can get up and it does a gradual wake-up based on sleep cycles. It really does help. I grew up in a family of not so pleasant risers. All of our SO commiserate with each other.

    Growing up, my mom would come in about a half hour before we had to be up and make her first round. Second time, she turned on the lights, third time if you weren't up she took your blanket. I am not going to say there wasn't a lot of yelling in the mornings but it generally went smoothly. My mom has 6 kids like this!

    I still am not a morning person. I get up but I am not fully functional until i have been up for an hour. When I worked for my dad, his employees used to joke not to speak to a us until after 10. Its just how some people are.
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    "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion." - Unknown 

  • Meghan and Kris thanks for the info on sleep cycle wake up! Kris I'm going to check out the app (for dd and myself!!).
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  • We have the same exact issues every morning.  It's so infuriating. Of course, DH leaves when he has to leave, so I'm usually stuck dealing it with by myself.

    I usually do a 1-2-3 countdown to try to get her moving. Occasionally I'll put a timer on and tell her that she has to be finished by the time the buzzer goes off.

    If she's really slow-moving and not getting much accomplished, I take away that evening's TV/LeapPad/etc privileges. If she does what she has to do quickly and we have enough time, then sometimes I'll let her watch part of a show while I'm nursing the baby/finishing my stuff.

    Some days are better than others

     
  • Thanks ladies. I think I will talk to her about how she will have to go to school as is if she doesn't get ready. In the past we haven't done that because she actually would have preferred going in PJs so it wasn't much of a consequence! But now that she is in kindergarten she probably wouldn't like it. Although half the morning she is just naked so I'm not sure how much that will work. As much as I can threaten that she will leave the house like that I can't really follow through with that! Afraid the school would have issues with that haha! You'd think that would encourage her to get ready but it really won't. She is so stubborn. Also Meghan's idea of having her wear her clothes to bed...I actually did that a couple years ago. I may have to give that a try again. Maybe tell her she can do that or she needs to promise to get ready or she's going in her PJs.
    PJ's wouldn't be a threat to DD either. She loves pajama days at school.  I think, however, that our school would have a problem if I sent her that way - so that's not a good "consequence" for us.
     
  • Val thanks for the commiseration!

    Yeah...I am wondering if school would be mad if she came in in PJs!

    I don't feel like I have much to take away in the evening since we no longer do any tv during he week. We have always said that if she missed the bus she would have to spend the whole evening in her room but tonight is tball practice. As much as I would like to keep her home, dh is the coach and would not be pleased. Plus staying home would probably be a reward as she doesn't like practice!

    My kid is food motivated so I think I may go back with positive reinforcement and using the reward chart to earn her Easter candy.

    Oh and I've tried using a timer. I got a cute ladybug one. It only worked a few times in the past. Now she gets really annoyed when we use a timer or try to "race" who can get ready first.
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