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FHA in 2010

Hi everyone,

We bought our home in 2010 with a FHA loan.  Under the loan, they require that you wait 5 years AND 20% paid down before the PMI goes away.  We have paid down the 20% in 3.5 years, however, must wait the other year for the PMI to drop off due to the rule that we signed up with.  Has anyone been able to get around that or have any suggestions or how this can be removed early?  It may not be possible without completely refinancing.

Thanks!

Re: FHA in 2010

  • You could probably go to the site for FHA and find out or you could call them. Another option would be to refi the loan with a conventional lender. However, you would have closing costs. Do the math, would this route save you money if you didn't have PMI or is it more cost effective to just stay with FHA?

  • That's not too bad.  FHA is currently having PMI for the full length of the loan.  You must have just missed the cut off to be put into that category.  I would not go with either a VA or a FHA loan now because of the red tape.
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    Wulfgar said:

    That's not too bad.  FHA is currently having PMI for the full length of the loan.  You must have just missed the cut off to be put into that category.  I would not go with either a VA or a FHA loan now because of the red tape.

    That is very true! I am glad that it's not for the life of the loan as it is for new loans now. :)

  • I'm not sure if it still works this way, but when we re-financed out of our FHA loan about 2-3 years into it, they refunded our PMI payments. Since we'd already paid out the money, we just sent it back as a principal payment.
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  • whats your interest rate? And how much per month do you pay in pmi? I didn't think you could ever get rid of pmi on fha loans but that may have been different in 2010. We avoided a fha loan like a plague because you could only get out of it by refinancing and the pmi was outrageous but i remember it had just changed when we were looking in 2012. If you owe less then 80% of the value and right now you are just paying pmi for nothing then theres a very good chance that its worth it to just do the refinance. You gotta do the math on the price of the closing costs vs how much you'll save in interest and pmi and see how long it will take to break even. i'd be surprised if it wasnt worth it.
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    Yeah it was different in 2010, so it is 5 years instead of the life of the loan, thank goodness.  Interest rate is 4.5% and PMI is $81/month.  So to pay that $81 until 10/1/15 (the 5 year mark), vs. refinancing, etc. I guess is what I need to consider.  We've been above 20% paid down for a few months now, so it is about a full year and a half of $81/month, so $1,458 or so.
  • Im feeling sort of sad for myself because my PMI is $331 a month :(  

    I got my FHA loan about a month before the rules changes so luckily, like you, I only have to pay it for 5 years (as long as I have paid off 20%) instead of the entire life of the loan. My interest rate is 3.75 so at least I have that on my side. 

    jtmh2012- you have piqued my interest. I wonder if I could do something like you did and get my PMI payments back (not to hijack Mom987's thread). 
  • bjlucas1 said:
    jtmh2012- you have piqued my interest. I wonder if I could do something like you did and get my PMI payments back (not to hijack Mom987's thread). 

    I got mine back as part of a re-finance.  We went from a 30-yr FHA loan to a 20-yr conventional loan and received a refund because we paid the FHA loan off in less than 7 years.  Looks like the time may now be 5 years or even 3 years depending on when you closed on your loan.  Talk to your bank and see what they say.
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    bjlucas1 said:
    Im feeling sort of sad for myself because my PMI is $331 a month :(  

    I got my FHA loan about a month before the rules changes so luckily, like you, I only have to pay it for 5 years (as long as I have paid off 20%) instead of the entire life of the loan. My interest rate is 3.75 so at least I have that on my side. 

    jtmh2012- you have piqued my interest. I wonder if I could do something like you did and get my PMI payments back (not to hijack Mom987's thread). 
    Haha I don't mind at all - this is good!
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