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Unpleasant neighbor

I wasn't sure what area to post this in but I need advice! We bought our home in spring 2013 right after our wedding. The neighbor next door is an older woman, maybe in her 60s, who has lived in the neighborhood for maybe 10 years. Previously we would say hi and make small talk about the weather and whatnot when we would see each other and everything was pleasant. Then a couple of months ago we had an issue. There is a open-pipe that runs right on the property line that had leaves in it but water was still able to flow. One evening we had a really heavy rain storm while my husband and I were out at Home Depot. When we got home we noticed the rain had forced the leaves out of the pipe and into our yard and the neighbor's yard. It was still wet out so we decided to deal with it the next day. So the next day, Saturday, my husband went out and cut the grass. He used the bag to collect everything and just went over the leaves with it to suck them up rather than picking them up by hand. This was late morning. Afterwards he was going around and weed whacking along the pipe area where it's hard to use the lawn mower. The neighbor came out onto her porch and yelled at him to not throw leaves into her yard. He thought she was kidding because who would do something like that? And she said that he had thrown the leaves into her yard using the weed whacker and that she had seen him. He told her that it had been from the rain the night before and she said he was lying. We were both dumbfounded and just kind of looked at her. I told her we hadn't been home when it happened and it was like that when we got back, and my husband told her that he had run our leaves over with the mower and she continued to say we were lying and that she had seen my husband do it. She insisted we help her pick up the leaves and just to appease her, my husband did. The whole time she was carrying on, being very condescending, and saying that she will be the best neighbor we ever have if we keep our things on our side and out of her yard. (At this point we could've mentioned her weeds which are so tall that they hang over into our yard but we didn't). Since then we haven't really seen her outside until yesterday when I had our puppy (who we've had since December) out in the back yard. The puppy and I were playing and then she spotted the neighbor and started barking until I told her to stop. The neighbor then said (not very nicely), "He better not bite me!" and I told her that she is friendly and doesn't leave our yard. She then was muttering things under her breath that I couldn't hear. At this point I am so frustrated with her. She seems to hold a grudge for something we didn't do! I feel so uncomfortable every time I see that she's outside and just am on edge. I don't want to have to feel this way in my own home/yard. We eventually would like to put up a fence but don't have the money right now. We try to be nice but like I said, I just don't want to feel like this in my own home. Does anyone have any advice or experience in a similar situation? If not, thanks just for letting me vent :)

Re: Unpleasant neighbor

  • We just purchased our home last month and all the neighbors we have met have been very nice. It is very clear everyone takes great care of their lawns and we are trying to keep up with them so we stay on everyone's good side.

    Our neighbor behind us shares a fence with us and our first time meeting them they made clear that the property line falls behind the fence (which is common as when you put up a fence it's supposed to be 2 ft inside your property line so you can maintain both sides) and let us know since we just moved in they will take care of the weeds on their side of the fence THIS TIME. I was thinking "oh that's nice!" while my husband was like "well no, that was them basically telling us to make sure we start taking care of it". Honestly I don't mind the weeds as they are just tall, green and, bushy (not gross and straggly) and creates more privacy until we can afford to plant nicer plants. Then the next time I see her she points out poison Ivy on our side and how we need to take care of that. Then we find out from our other neighbors while our house was vacant between owners they snuck on the property and dug up a tree that was blocking some of their sunlight (there was a weird indent in the lawn we were trying to figure out what it was from).

    So I forsee this neighbor becoming a problem down the road, as I am all for maintaining a nice lawn but but on my terms. SO we'll see! I have no advice as I am not sure what I will do when it becomes an issue except just kind of ignore it when I don't want to deal with it. Just because it is not up to their standards, that's tough. It's perfectably acceptable looking, doesn't make the neighborhood look bad so what can she really do besides bitch a little bit?
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  • Unfortunately, you can't control her behavior, only how you react to it.  You have already done all you could about explaining what happened and that leaves were not thrown on her property by you all, but shes chooses to be an unhappy person.  As crazy as it sounds, there are a lot of people in this world who are happiest when they are complaining and feeling smug about "how they're in the right even though they've been so wronged."

    I had an ex-b/f's mother who was like this and, while I was dating him, had to deal with her and her backhanded compliments and snide remarks ALL THE TIME.  I suggest you handle her the same way I dealt with this woman.  I was super sweet and polite.  I would "play dumb" and pretend her backhanded compliments were actually compliments.  I would briefly answer her snide remarks as if she was asking an actual question or making an actual statement and then change the subject.  My favorite.  Her (looking pointedly at my figure), "You should really get out and start running.  It's so healthy and helps with weight loss."  She was an avid runner herself and, no, I was never talking about losing weight first the many times we had this exact same conversation.  Me, said with a smile and sweet tone, "Oh no, running is my least favorite form of exercise.  But I do aerobics 3-4x/week.  You're so sweet to be worrying about me, but my health is fine." 

    Still be friendly and wave hi.  Even if she doesn't wave back or makes a face at you.  Don't be defensive at all.  Acknowledge whatever she says and then respond...once...to any rude statement she makes and say it with an upbeat, neighborly tone.  Like, "Oh gosh, Ms. Crabbypants! I'm sorry you've been worrying our dog might bite you.  I'm so glad you said something.  Let me assure you she is super friendly and has never shown any aggressive tendencies."  And if she wants to grumble under her breath, totally ignore it and pretend you don't hear it. 

  • bubblegum1309 I'm sorry to hear you have cranky neighbors too! It's terrible how one person/family can taint an otherwise great neighborhood. Hopefully they learn to keep to themselves. short+sassy Thanks for the advice. That's what I always think in my head..."kill them with kindness"...ugh but that's so much easier said than done!
  • MrT723 said:
    bubblegum1309 I'm sorry to hear you have cranky neighbors too! It's terrible how one person/family can taint an otherwise great neighborhood. Hopefully they learn to keep to themselves. short+sassy Thanks for the advice. That's what I always think in my head..."kill them with kindness"...ugh but that's so much easier said than done!
     
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    One thing that helps me be super sweet and helpful with people like that is knowing that it DRIVES THEM CRAZY.  They want the drama and "I win" by not giving them the drama.
  • Do you have a receipt from Home Depot. If so = time stamp of purchase. Cross reference with weather report for when storm went through usually those thing are down to the minute. There's your proof you weren't home.

    I know this sounds petty, but it would honestly clear your name and might give you a chance to clear up the issue with the leaves and get back to square one.

    Or, it could totally back fire and then you'd be in the same place you are now.

    Either way, watch out for this lady.

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