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I'm too old for this, but I may have gotten into a fist fight

We went on a family cruise for my dad's 50th birthday this past weekend.  My stepsister has always been pretty flirtatious with my, now, husband.  I never said anything because I figured it's just a phase and I was flirtatious with my sister's husband when I was her age too (she's 18 now).  Once we got onto the cruise, everything got progressively worse.  She was digging for his attention and had to come with us everywhere.  I continued to grit my teeth and ignore it because I didn't think it was too big of an issue.

Then she showed up to our stateroom wearing a robe.  I asked if she was wearing anything underneath because it was open pretty low to her chest bone and she said yes.  My husband was in our room and so I pulled her robe open a bit and she said "Oh, I'm not wearing a shirt".  I told her to go back to her room and once she's wearing clothes, she can come hang out, but not before.  She fought me a bit on it, but finally went back to her room and got dressed.

Then, at 11:30 at night, DH and I got into the Jacuzzi and she decided to join us.  It was fine until she untied her top...  I just looked at her and said "what are you doing?" And she says "It's making me uncomfortable."  And I said "Yeah, but now I'm uncomfortable" and she tell me that it's fine, it won't fall.  I didn't know what to do, so I didn't push the issue.

Then she waited until I left DH alone with her and the rest of my family while I went up with my nephew to ride a water slide.  When I came back, DH told me that SS asked him if she looked good in her bikini, only him.  She said "NAME, do I look good in this?"  Still, I said nothing to her.  DH knew I was getting pissed about this, but I was trying to keep the peace because the cruise was only 4 days long.

I'm not a violent person.  When I was younger, 17ish, I would get into fist fights with my sister, but that was the last time.  Now, I'm 25 and feel like I'm too old for this.  So, this is how the fight started.  We were playing UNO, me, her, my nephew, my sister, and DH.  Well, my nephew (not my step sister's child) started having a meltdown (he's 4) because he was losing and my stepsister turned and started cursing at him.  I don't know when it happened, but I just went into a blind rage and was started yelling at her, and then I punched her, and she punched me, and we kept on like that for a couple of minutes until we both just stopped and yelled at the other to stop.

It was stupid, and I feel super embarrassed about it.  I just snapped.  I love my sister's kids as if they were my own, and I would definitely take someone down for them, but wow.  Seriously, blind rage.  After it was over and I went to my room to relax a bit, I felt so embarrassed and I know why it happened, but I haven't been that angry in such a long time. 

So there's my story of how I turned into the crazy person who starts fist fights on cruises.
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    I don't understand why you OR your DH haven't ever, ever said something to your SS in order to get her to back off.  Seriously- if you had - you might not have ended up in a blind rage.

    "sis- this is inappropriate".  Or your DH could say "You're making me uncomfortable". or... a million other comments in a million other situations. 

    I'm kind of flabbergasted that this seriously led to a FIST FIGHT.  "too old"?  Good gawd.  I honestly don't know anyone - ANYONE - who has every gotten into a fist fight no matter how pissed off they were.

    You know what your SS is like - you could have found a better way, KNOWING you'd be in a somewhat contained environment with her, to deal with her.   

  • We went on a family cruise for my dad's 50th birthday this past weekend.  My stepsister has always been pretty flirtatious with my, now, husband.  I never said anything because I figured it's just a phase and I was flirtatious with my sister's husband when I was her age too (she's 18 now).  Once we got onto the cruise, everything got progressively worse.  She was digging for his attention and had to come with us everywhere.  I continued to grit my teeth and ignore it because I didn't think it was too big of an issue.

    Then she showed up to our stateroom wearing a robe.  I asked if she was wearing anything underneath because it was open pretty low to her chest bone and she said yes.  My husband was in our room and so I pulled her robe open a bit and she said "Oh, I'm not wearing a shirt".  I told her to go back to her room and once she's wearing clothes, she can come hang out, but not before.  She fought me a bit on it, but finally went back to her room and got dressed.

    Then, at 11:30 at night, DH and I got into the Jacuzzi and she decided to join us.  It was fine until she untied her top...  I just looked at her and said "what are you doing?" And she says "It's making me uncomfortable."  And I said "Yeah, but now I'm uncomfortable" and she tell me that it's fine, it won't fall.  I didn't know what to do, so I didn't push the issue.

    Then she waited until I left DH alone with her and the rest of my family while I went up with my nephew to ride a water slide.  When I came back, DH told me that SS asked him if she looked good in her bikini, only him.  She said "NAME, do I look good in this?"  Still, I said nothing to her.  DH knew I was getting pissed about this, but I was trying to keep the peace because the cruise was only 4 days long.

    I'm not a violent person.  When I was younger, 17ish, I would get into fist fights with my sister, but that was the last time.  Now, I'm 25 and feel like I'm too old for this.  So, this is how the fight started.  We were playing UNO, me, her, my nephew, my sister, and DH.  Well, my nephew (not my step sister's child) started having a meltdown (he's 4) because he was losing and my stepsister turned and started cursing at him.  I don't know when it happened, but I just went into a blind rage and was started yelling at her, and then I punched her, and she punched me, and we kept on like that for a couple of minutes until we both just stopped and yelled at the other to stop.

    It was stupid, and I feel super embarrassed about it.  I just snapped.  I love my sister's kids as if they were my own, and I would definitely take someone down for them, but wow.  Seriously, blind rage.  After it was over and I went to my room to relax a bit, I felt so embarrassed and I know why it happened, but I haven't been that angry in such a long time. 

    So there's my story of how I turned into the crazy person who starts fist fights on cruises.
    When she started that "flirtatious" bullshit, you and your H should have walked away from her and went to your cabin.

    I don't know if cruise ships have bouncers, but you should have found out from somebody in authority on that cruise how that person could have somehow kept your SS at bay so that there'd be no more problems.

    Oi, a punching match....I don't know what is going to happen once you get off that ship but I am sure there will be some sort of court date invloved.

    My advice:

    Cut your SS off and never speak to her again. End of story. She seems to be looking for trouble and quite frnankly, your H should have told her to cut it out when SS started the "flirting."
  • Honestly, there is a lot of space between fist fights and doing nothing "to keep the peace".  

    Sure, your 18 yo SS is being a button pushing brat.  But she is doing this because no one has provided consequences for her actions.  

    Why in the hell would you invite her back to your room when she came to it with nothing under her bathrobe?  The appropriate conseuqence for immature and provocative behavior would be to tell her to go back to her room and not see her until the next day.  All you did was show her that she could irk you, but you were too weak to actually stand up to her. 

    You want to stop her from being this way, stay away from her.  And let her and the rest of your family know why?  
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  • Thanks for your input.  I know I should have said something to her, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it.  That's what I get.  No, no court date.  She isn't speaking to me and I'm not ignoring her, but I'm not actively pursuing a relationship with her either.  I'll keep you guys updated if anything happens, but I haven't heard anything so far.
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    You couldn't bring yourself to SAY something to her, but you could bring yourself to HIT her?  And you say you aren't a violent person?

    Honestly- I think you need to do some soul searching here.  You're actually contradicting yourself.  You ARE a violent person.  You may not lash out often.  It may have been years.  BUT instead of TALKING to her, using calm rational words, your reaction is to HIT her.

    That makes you a violent person. 

    I"m not saying this to flame you.  I'm saying this to make you THINK.  To really think about yourself and how you handle stress. 

    And for as wrong as your SS is on many levels, for the fact that you attacked her, YOU owe her an apology.  Not a "I'm sorry I hit you, but I did it because of ____ (then putting it back on her).".  NO, you need to say "I"m sorry I hit you. That was wrong of me and I apologize.".  PERIOD.

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  • I already have apologized, almost immediately.  I do feel bad and I do feel really embarrassed.  I had a lot of anger issues in the past and thought I had worked through them.  I guess I have more work to do.
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  • I completely understand snapping and getting into a fist fight if the need arises to defend myself. I was once in an emotionally and sexually abusive relationship with an older man. He enjoyed screaming in my face when he was angry and climbing on top of me after I said no to sex. One night, he tried to take off my clothes and pin my wrists after I said no. I smacked him hard and shoved him off me so quickly that he fell off the bed. The joke is, he told all of his friends and family that I was the abusive one for defending myself!  :)) He conveniently left out the abusive behavior he subjected me to before I was ever violent to him. Polite discussions and requests did not work. 

    That incident happened when I was 22. I did not have the confidence to dump that man and I had poorer impulse control. Ten years later, I simply state my boundaries and walk away from anyone who doesn't respect them. When I feel like I am about to lose my temper, I remove myself from the situation or calmly assert myself. 

    Getting into a fist fight as an older married woman is unseemly and very immature, especially while on a family vacation. Boundaries should have been drawn in order to prevent such a violent reaction. 
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