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QOTD 9/10
Do you think the NFLs response to domestic violence is justified especially in the Ray Rice case?
Note: Ray Rice from the Balitmore Ravens punched his then fiancé now wife in the face and she was knocked unconscious. It was all on film and it happened in February. The Ravens suspended him for 2 games when they saw only a portion of the video (not where he punched her). The Ravens recently saw the entire video after TMZ got ahold of it. They have since released him from his contract and the NFL suspended him indefinitely. Google got more news.
Note: Ray Rice from the Balitmore Ravens punched his then fiancé now wife in the face and she was knocked unconscious. It was all on film and it happened in February. The Ravens suspended him for 2 games when they saw only a portion of the video (not where he punched her). The Ravens recently saw the entire video after TMZ got ahold of it. They have since released him from his contract and the NFL suspended him indefinitely. Google got more news.
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Re: QOTD 9/10
If you are a celebrity you can't behave like that and expect no consequences. Your career is strongly dependent on the public's opinion.
What upsets me about this whole thing is what I'm hearing come out of people's mouths about the situation. Somehow a lot of people are turning this all around on her. It just shows the stigma/ignorance that goes along with domestic abuse. How can people blame the victim? Also those that make comments about how she married him or whatever, she's a battered woman. Do research on what that means before you comment on her choices. \rant.
Ray Rice And All Other NFL Players Gave Up Their Due Process Rights
By Darren Heitner | Headline, NFL Players, Sports Law
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By Charles Bennett, J.D.
Ray Rice. Photo Credit: Evan Habeeb-USA TODAY Sports.
Ray Rice is not guaranteed Due Process of law with respect to the termination of his NFL contract. Earlier this week the Baltimore Ravens terminated Ray Rice’s contract after a video surfaced apparently showing him hitting his then-fiancée. The NFL quickly responded by indefinitely suspending Rice.
All of this came shortly after commissioner Roger Goodell announced a new policy to strengthen domestic violence penalties against players. The NFL Players Association objected to the stricter penalties on the grounds that they denied players Due Process of law. While the NFLPA is free to demand rules that protect the Due Process rights of NFL players, the players have already given up many of their Due Process rights in their contracts.
Every NFL player, including Ray Rice, signs a contract with the league that includes an arbitration provision. The arbitration provision prevents players from filing lawsuits against the NFL or NFL franchises for disputes arising from their contracts. Instead, the players’ contracts and the NFL’s Collective Bargaining Agreement require the players to participate in an arbitration proceeding to resolve their disputes. The NBA and MLB have similar arbitration provisions in their contracts and CBAs. The arbitration provision agreed to by the players gives up many of their Due Process rights with respect to disputes over their contracts––including termination.
Constitutional Due Process protections do not extend to private conduct. Since the late 1800’s, in a line of cases called the Civil Rights Cases, the US Supreme Court has held that the Due Process requirements of the Fifth and Fourteenth amendments offer no shield against private conduct. The question is whether the conduct in question is “fairly attributable” to the state.
There is no doubt that the NFL and its franchises are private entities and not affiliated with any government. Any action taken by the NFL or its franchises is likely not “fairly attributable” to any state. This even applies to the arbitrations the players have elected to use to resolve their disputes.
Numerous courts around the country have repeatedly held that the no state action is involved in private arbitration. Arbitration between private entities, including between an employer and its employees, is conducted pursuant to contract by a private arbitrator. And even though Congress, in the exercise of its commerce power, provides some governmental regulation of private arbitration agreements via the Federal Arbitration Act, courts have repeatedly held that private arbitration proceedings do not meet the state action requisite for a constitutional Due Process claim.
All of this means that, even though Rice has not been convicted of domestic violence for his apparent actions against his then-fiancée, the Ravens may terminate Rice’s contract and the NFL may suspend Rice indefinitely without providing him Due Process of law.
Totally justifiable. He is a public figure, and needs to act as such. I was told I could get my clearance suspended for domestic violence issue. No clearance, no job.
Living in MD, this is THE talk right now. I've somehow managed NOT to see the video, I don't want to.
What I get from Raven fans - they didn't think the incident was "that bad" because she married him afterwards. Therefore the 2 game suspension was "good enough". Especially since the one game is against their biggest rivals the Steelers. Now the video came and it was "that bad". I know my H was rethinking his loyalty with the team after seeing it... he has 0 tolerance for a man hitting a woman, to the point of stepping in if it's done in public. He was very happy with them releasing Rice from his contract. if Rice played, H didn't think the team would block for him. At least H wouldn't have.
Since the release, restaurants and bars in the area are giving away free food if you trade in your rice jersey. I think the team is offering exchanges on the licensed jerseys. Seems like they are trying to make up for the lapse in judgment. Honestly, I don't know if they saw the video before now, but they are making things right now. These are big men, paid to be strong and powerful... there needs to be consequences for ANY violence.
I watched my sister in a horrible emotionally, physically and sexually abusive relationship for 14 years. It's awful to see someone you love in that position and not think they can get out. She finally did about 6 years ago, but it was after many attempts... and many times me begging her to leave because I was afraid he'd kill her. I pray for the victim and she finds the strength to know she deserves better.
I don't think they should have gotten married. Obviously, there are issues on both sides that need to be worked out.