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Vent (Long)

This never fails. Every time we start getting ahead everything breaks! First we were saving up to get the trucks windshield replaced so it could pass next months inspection. Well that money ended up being used on the Camry's brakes and axles. So we saved up again for the windshield, now the cv boot bolts on the Camry snapped off as H was driving down the freeway. I am so tired of repairs. Oh, there was the evap valve issue on the truck as well. H absolutely refuses to give up the truck because of the Camry's constant need of repairs. I refuse to give up the Camry because she can't ever be repoed and is cheaper to fix then buying a new car. Maybe. She's really starting to get expensive now. Luckily H can do most all repairs so just having to buy the parts is a lot cheaper than paying a mechanic. So now H is thinking of going back to OTR since he wouldn't have to use the Camry as much. I hate this idea because he will be gone 5 weeks at a time and home for 3 days, plus his checks will be even more erratic. But he would be less tired which might cut down on the amount of fighting over stupid things. I so wish he could find something else but around here there are more candidates then job openings. He wants to buy his own truck which would actually be significantly great- we are talking tripling his income great. I want to use the tax refund money to put the money down on said truck with a separate financing company and pay $600 give or take a month. H wants the income now and wants to do Swifts' leasing program which enables him to not put any money down but my problem is that the financing is tied to Swift so he could not go to another company and it would be give or take $600 a week AND there is a significant (like $40 grand) balloon payment at the end that will let him keep the truck and go to whatever company he wants. I think tying himself to Swift is the very worst idea because they don't pay like normal companies. Normal places pay based on a driver's experience (I.e. .46/loaded mile, and .26/empty mile-no matter the load), Swift does things screwy, the have different pay amounts .25-.55/ loaded mile and .26 per empty. They determine this pay based on which customer, distance, etc. . . Anyway that's all my H rant. Now I have a friend. She has treated me out to nails and dinner and what not. I was always careful to watch how much I order because I think you should be frugal when spending someone else's money. She is going through incredibly tough times and wanted a girls night so I offered to treat her to dinner. We went to Olive Garden and I ordered a sprite, salad, breadsticks, and the $9.99 pasta bowl thing. She, however, ordered a margarita-not cheap, an extra appetizer- on top of the salad and breadsticks, a $17 shrimp carbonara, and a freaking tiramisu. H says I should just let it go but I can't seem too. But, I was incredibly blessed, greatful, and thankful. While at the restaurant she ran into some old friends. While I'm bitching in my head about what she is ordering and wondering how I'm going to tell H that I blew that nights budget, the little old couple paid for our meal. I don't even have words to describe how touched I felt. Anyways, my rant is over and thank you all once again for letting me vent.

P.S. I feel so horribly guilty for how mad I was getting at her. I know I was being selfish.
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Re: Vent (Long)

  • I know there's a lot of needless bitching and moaning in there. I'm literally sitting here in just about tears for absolutely no reason. I'm thinking it's the hormone pills I just started.
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  • Be kind to yourself about the friend thing. You're under a lot of stress. It's so sweet that the couple paid for it! Just pay it forward when you can :)

    Re. the truck lease to own thing, I know zip about that industry but I agree with your instinct that it sounds like a raw deal. I'd wait until you guys can buy straight up with a sizable DP, but it sounds like a great goal! I would trudge through paying off your other debts first though (if I'm remembering wrong I apologize).

    Re. The Camry I think you're doing the right thing to keep fixing it. Hang in there! You're saving and then using the savings responsibly, and that's what it's for. I don't quite remember the details of your H's truck but I'd work on selling and buying a safe but cheaper car if it's doable.

    Just remember you're heading in the right direction! Things WILL get better if you keep at it.
  • My husband is a truck driver. And while you will be tripling his income buying a truck, you should only be using 1/3 for your self. 1/3 is usually a truck payment and 1/3 set aside for maintance and repairs. He also said lease to own is not worth it. We looked into buying a truck and for my H - he would only be making 10k more a year after maintance and loan payment. Not worth the extra head aches for us. It is a goal for him, just not right yet.

    If you don't mind me asking where you are at. It's hard for me to think of a place with an over abundance of drivers. Right now the market for truck drivers is insanely in favor for the drivers with 1-2 years experience. Especially with all the new laws coming in, electronic logs is going to be the biggest one. We are near Baltimore, and H has companies calling him to come work for them. He has 2 years experience, but 10 in the army driving. He uses that to his advantage when he's up for a raise.

    That was very nice of the older couple to pay! And at least you're saving and have money for repairs. Awesome your H can do the work himself! Just keep going, something will give soon. Everytime you can pay for repairs without using a credit care is a win!
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  • We are in the North Texas area. I was meaning that for all jobs in general around here, not just driving. I understand the maintence and etc on the truck and we are taking that into account. It's hard to convince him not to do it all so I'm trying to compromise. He really wants to do Swifts lease purchase since he can start right away. I am trying to get him to wait because even though he would get a minimum of $1.07 with that, I think he could do like a friend of my moms did and purchase (not lease) a truck and work with Landstar who pay a percentage of the load. According to said friends they have only been there about 6 months but have already managed to take home and avg of $1500 a week after payment, maintenance, and other expenses.
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  • I agree with you on the purchasing the truck with a good down payment. The lease option does not sound like a good option. I have been there with the issue of treating a friend. In the end you have to remember you offered to treat her and let it go. I offered to treat a friend to cheap beer and wing night one time. She ordered a steak dinner and wine. I had budgeted like 20 bucks and it cost me 50 I was kind of mad but let it go. It all worked out with the older couple paying, like others said pay it forward when you can. Money makes everything stressful lol! Like others said you are in the right direction that is the main thing!
  • First hugs, I know it gets hard, but just think- you had the money there for repairs! It could have been much worse if you didn't have that savings.
    About the friend thing, I would let it go. And just not offer again until you can afford it if she orders the most expensive thing on the menu. If you want I do something. In the meantime, invite her over for a bottle of wine and some take out or home cooking. That way you can completely control the cost, but it's still a fun girls night. (And I agree that was pretty crappy of her, especially if she knows your goals. I would have been ticked at the time too)

    I know nothing about trucking. One thing though- where in N Texas are you? I know there are a ton of oil jobs up there somewhere right now. Would your dh be able to do something like that for a while until you save up the down payment so he can go back to trucking? It just seems based off your post that the lease deal is not really a good thing. The company knows you are tied to them and so they can screw with you, and that's not really fair or going to help you achieve your goals.
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  • First hugs, I know it gets hard, but just think- you had the money there for repairs! It could have been much worse if you didn't have that savings.
    About the friend thing, I would let it go. And just not offer again until you can afford it if she orders the most expensive thing on the menu. If you want I do something. In the meantime, invite her over for a bottle of wine and some take out or home cooking. That way you can completely control the cost, but it's still a fun girls night. (And I agree that was pretty crappy of her, especially if she knows your goals. I would have been ticked at the time too)

    I know nothing about trucking. One thing though- where in N Texas are you? I know there are a ton of oil jobs up there somewhere right now. Would your dh be able to do something like that for a while until you save up the down payment so he can go back to trucking? It just seems based off your post that the lease deal is not really a good thing. The company knows you are tied to them and so they can screw with you, and that's not really fair or going to help you achieve your goals.

    We are about an hour south of Fort Worth. We had a really big oil boom for a few years but that's slowing down around here and moving northwest of here. Thank you all I just needed a place to vent and get the frustration out. I am thankful that we have had the savings and it hasn't completely broken us, it just seems like you take one step foreword and two steps back.
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  • My husband and I both have worked in the trucking industry.  DO NOT do the lease to own with Swift I have some friends who went that route and it turned out very badly for them. Most of their paycheck was going to the payment with very little going to them and their wheels only stopped at the load and unload points. From what I have heard from Swift drivers the lease to own drivers tend to get the lowest paying loads as a way to keep them tied to Swift longer. Can he start with a company as a company driver to help save up the money for a truck faster then buy his own?
  • He's a company driver with Swift now and has been trying to get on as a company driver other places and even just working somewhere else period but as I stated earlier the jobs aren't great down here. I so wish he would just wait a little bit but that's a big area we struggle with in our marriage. He is huge about he has to have what he wants right now and usually I can negotiate with him but this time he's being as stubborn as I am about it. I understand him wanting to get out of the account he's in right now, tonight's a perfect example. He drove the hour up there (it's his regularly scheduled night), they told him they didn't even have him on the list to work tonight, he drove the half hour halfway home, then he gets a call that they have a load for him and they really need him to come in. It's incredibly frustrating I get it. But luckily he's professional enough to keep his cool with them and turn around and get the load but guess who gets the brunt of his frustrations later :(. He's horrible about talking about and even venting about the actual issue. He will hold that part in and then get hot headed about stupid menial stuff. I've gotten to know him well enough to not take it to heart and nip it in the bud right away so it doesn't become a bigger issue like it used to. I've worked with him to talk more about the real issues but I would really like him to do marriage counseling with me but he refuses to because of bad past experiences with counsellors as a kid. Any suggestions?
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  • I work for an insurance company and see lots of individual drivers struggle with working for themselves. I'm not saying not to do it, but to check into the following things, if you already have, please disregard. This way you have checked into everything & know if the costs is worth the work compared to driving for someone else

    • Gas costs
    • Insurance costs, shop around because depending on how far he would travel, not all insurance companies write long haul truckers
    • Federal filing (ICC or BMC91). this is usually required for truckers going over the road
    • Cargo coverage, depending on who he hauls for, he might have to provide that himself
    • State filings (Form E), some states that he could be hauling into might also require that he carries a state filing. Normally for long haul truckers you only need to get a Federal Filing but you should look into
    • If he currently is the health insurance provider, look into the costs of getting your own
    • Log books
    • Toll booth costs
    • An hourly or per mileage rate as income
    • Savings for repairs for normal wear & tear on truck
    • What broker companies can he get signed onto to get jobs & what kind of terms do they have (do they charge a fee or a percentage, etc)
    • Do you want to operate as an individual or a limited liability corp. I recommend talking to a lawyer about the pros and cons to each.

    If you decide to go out on your own for the business, I wish you the best of luck, it's not easy, but nothing worth having is

  • Insurance is another thing I forgot to mention. One of his arguments for leasing with Swift is that we would have the option of staying with their insurance who we know will cover him since he has a job. But, a couple of other trucking companies have said they would love to hire him as a company driver but their insurance won't cover him. The reason for that is when he was driving for Hobby Lobby (the best company to work for ever!) he got cocky and got one hell of a speeding ticket- 75 in a 55 in the company truck going with the flow of traffic. It was an immediate termination and he fought the ticket. He won the fight and the ticket was dismissed so it's not on his mvr but the points are still on his dac. Insurance companies calculate a persons risk by the points on their dac. Now, he was getting denied insurance wise back in April-Juneish. The incident happened just before Thanksgiving of last year. I'm wondering if being pretty much a year old and having been dismissed if insurance companies will be more forgiving now.
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