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Need some life advice....would you take the job?

edited November 2014 in Money Matters
Im gonna lay it all out because I need advice from the world outside of my home.  I need a real opinion from people so I can think about this position from more than one side.

My husband and I have 2 kids, and found out we are expecting #3.  We are VERY excited!!

Back-story, my husband managed a bar and I was a stay at home student while my two daughters were born.  One is in grade school and the other is still at home with me.  I am a stay at home mom but I did graduate with my college degree but have had one heck of a time finding a decent job.

Since the bar (where he used to make good money) was struggling we found ourselves on food stamps and medicaid...which was a godsend.  My husband eventually left the bar and works for a major manufacturing company making decent money.  We lost food stamps immediatley and were put on 1 year medicaid tranition but will ultimatley lose that too.  We understand and are very thankful for the help.  Hubby's job has a policy is that everyone has to be on a 2-year temp contract, then after 2 years they are permanent.  My husband is at the 1 year mark.  THey do not offer health insurance unless it is to permanent employees. 

I was trying to find a job that I made enough to work while paying a babysitter, and all I was getting calls was for minimum wage jobs that I average $2 after taxes and a sitter and gas.  I continued to look and finally got an offer for $13 an hour (starting) as a rep with contract to be promoted to a supervisor $14 within 6 months to 1 year.  The schedule is 8-5 mon-fri, no weekends ever!  Plus quarterly bonus checks. 

The ONLY daycare around here costs $2.90 an hour ($2.30 after the childcare credit we can claim on taxes)  $2.30 is very reasonable, esepcially since a babysitter costs about the same.  But that means that I would be paying $520 a month for daycare.  When the baby comes it will be about $1000 a month total for both kids.  I dont know what I will do when my older daughter is home for the summer!?

So if im making $13 an hour, i figured im making before taxes  $2080, $1664 after taxes.  This year before baby im bringning home about $1000 total for the whole month after daycare and gas.  Next year itll be $600 after daycare for the baby.
This total does not include the health insurance taken out, which I don't know the cost yet.  Plus we called our account and with both incomes we lose our child tax credit next year :(  SO im sure my bring home will be less than that.

Here's the kicker....our social worker called since our medicaid transition is up at the end of December.  She's a lovely lady and we chatted as I shared the good news with her that im prego.  She called me back and told me our whole family qualified for medicaid, and up to $350 worth of food stamps without an additional income.  (aka me not working).

I want experience and want to take this job, but in your opinions, would you stay at home with your children and take the medicaid and food stamps while you can, or would you take the job even though most of your paycheck is going towards daycare?  I have this put in my stomach about paying someone else to spend time with my children when I might have the chance to stay at home. At the same time, I feel bad being on government assistance possibly even longer, not that I have anything against it, I just feel like we had our help and I dont want people to think im taking advantage of being pregnant and the state.   Plus starting a brand new job while prego is kind of intimidating.  We could really use the extra money...

Need some points of view...



Re: Need some life advice....would you take the job?

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  • Well first you need a new accountant. I could see you losing the Earned Income Tax credit, but the Child Tax Credit does not phase out until a pretty high income. And EIC goes away once a MFJ couple with 3 kids make $45,000ish (I think). That is a really good deal on childcare. I would take the job.
  • I would take the job, too. Even if it works out to $400-$500 after health insurance is taken out, just getting the insurance is huge. PLUS you're getting experience, PLUS maybe your H can come off the insurance in a year once he's permanent.

    That said, I don't have kids yet but I've never planned to be a SAH mom. I think quality daycare is a great learning experience for kids, and research says that high-quality daycare is just as good for kids as a high-quality home environment. I am sympathetic that if you feel called to SAH, it must be hard to give up. Best of luck with your decision!
  • I agree with others, it is best for you to take this job since it will get you back into the work force and most jobs give out raises when they can.

    I have been in manufacturing for most of my adult life in one form or another and it was very rare not to get annual raises.
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    I would have to agree with the others that it seems like it would be best for you if you got back into the work force. You may only make $600 a month this year after taxes, child care, and insurance, but next year your DH should be able to be on his own insurance so that will go up. Plus you should get a raise, so that will help again. It also doesn't seem like you would lose the child credit- that is at a pretty high income, which it doesn't seem like you would be at. The quarterly bonus checks would also be helpful to pay off debts or accomplish your other goals.

    I think one way to look at it is to compare the two options. Based on what you said with you working you would have an extra $600-1000 plus your bonuses with you working. without you working you would qualify for $350 in food stamps once the new baby is born (or whenever). You working is an extra $250+ every month, and part of that plus is probably better health care than medicaid.

    Good luck deciding. I know leaving your kids can be hard- I stay at home with a 15 month old right now, but I also know that a day care can be a good experience for them too. Either way you will still be the best mom you can be for your kiddos!

    Edit: I should add, in this situation I would be going back to work. I would want to make sure that I would be doing the most I could to ensure the financial secure future for my family. And having a steady schedule without weekends means that you would be able to spend a lot of quality time in the evenings and weekends.

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  • Since your husband is working in a manufacturing job, would it be possible for him to change his hours to 2nd or 3rd shift? If he took 2nd shift you would still need someone to watch the kids for a few hours between when he has to leave for work and when you come home. But you might be able to find a college student in the area to babysit for you 2-3 hours a day. That would cut down on the child care expenses and your kids would be with your or your husband. Granted, it will be hard for you and your husband as you will have limited time that you get to spend together, but if you put it in perspective that it would be like this for 5 years max (when the new baby goes into school) the extra income you would be getting plus health insurance would be very helpful.
  • I agree with Erikan73's idea.
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  • For the most part, I agree with everyone else on taking the job.  However, there are a couple of other things I might consider before doing so. 

    1. Does the new employer know you are pregnant?  Are they willing to work with you and provide 3 months unpaid maternity leave?  I'm pretty sure that FMLA is only available for those who have been working with the company for 12 months.  If you weren't able to get 3 months maternity leave, do you have a plan for someone to keep the baby during those first few months?  I think most day cares around here will not keep a baby younger than 3 months, but maybe that is a regional thing?  Just throwing all this out there, because it may take a lot of planning.  You may need a nanny for the first few months, so even more money.  This isn't necessarily a reason to not take the job, but it is something you gotta think about ASAP.

    2. Is this job in a field that you are interested in pursuing long term? If so, I think you should move mountains to take it and get that experience.  If it is in a field that you aren't really that interested in pursuing long term, it may be worth passing up if you would much rather stay home with your kids.

    3.  In terms of income, is there some job that you might be able to do while also staying home with the kids?  Maybe nanny for someone else's kids too? 

    These are just some things to consider, but honestly, I think you should probably take the job.  Even if you made $0 after day care and taxes, you are still getting insurance, work experience, paying into SS, and possibly even getting a 401k match (if they offer it; take it!!).  The job also offers hope of moving up and getting raises, whereas more unemployment for you would make it even harder to find a job when you really need one.  This is why many people (including myself) have taken unpaid internships, and I can tell you from first hand experience that chasing experience over money leads to more money in the long run.

    Best of luck!
  • Oh!  One more thing:  I'd also take a good long look at your health insurance benefits offered through the company.  With health insurance, labor and delivery can cost you easily $5,000.  If you are on Medicaid, L&D would be free.  (This is pretty messed up in my opinion, but that is another topic for another day.)
  • I would take the job.  Math-wise it sounds like not taking the job nets you medicaid insurance and $350 for food.  I would guess, this could be way off, that health insurance for a family of 4-5 could cost you $300-400 a month, that could be way off.  but you'd be bringing home and additional $700-800 a month before baby 3 is born and another $200-300 after...and you'd have private insurance, which will probably give you more options as to where you receive your care. 

    Like others have said, it can be harder and harder to gt back into the work-force the longer you're out of it, so getting in has tons of value, you'll be earning more sooner than if you waited and stayed at home another year or two. 

    If this postion is offering health benefits see if they offer some benefits for dependent care as well, I know my job allows you to take out a significant amount of money pre-tax if it's money that is used to pay for daycare, preschool, before/after school programs, and summer camp, that could make things easier (so you'd take out the $500-$1000 pre-tax and then only have to pay taxes on the other $1080-1480 of your income).
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  • I would totally take the job over being on food stamps.  Regarding health care - could you get on ACA?  

    You would still be able to deduct your children on your taxes and also deduct child care costs
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  • Thanks everyone for all of your help!!  There was a lot of points of view and advice and it is all greatly appreciated.
    Medicaid would pay for the entire pregnancy with no cost to us, in my opinion, Medicaid is just as good as private.  My employer does know about the pregnancy but I am only offered unpaid leave unless I get a promotion, which I am supposed to get before my year mark but im not 100% sure.

    I have decided to take the job because as you all have said, job experience in so valuable.  I knew that, but at the same time reading so many others repeating that tells me it's worth way more than what I realized.  I am super nervous yet excited to take this next step.  I also realized that if this job absolutely doesn't work out, its not like I cannot leave it in search for another.
  • Thanks everyone for all of your help!!  There was a lot of points of view and advice and it is all greatly appreciated.
    Medicaid would pay for the entire pregnancy with no cost to us, in my opinion, Medicaid is just as good as private.  My employer does know about the pregnancy but I am only offered unpaid leave unless I get a promotion, which I am supposed to get before my year mark but im not 100% sure.

    I have decided to take the job because as you all have said, job experience in so valuable.  I knew that, but at the same time reading so many others repeating that tells me it's worth way more than what I realized.  I am super nervous yet excited to take this next step.  I also realized that if this job absolutely doesn't work out, its not like I cannot leave it in search for another.
    That's great!  Congratulations on your decision!  Unpaid leave is a drag (that's all I'll get someday, too) but that's great your employer is willing to hold your job.
  • Congrats on this new chapter of your life.
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