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Newbies Looking to Buy - Any Advice?

Hello Nesties!

FI and I have been flirting with the idea of buying a house for a few months. We're pulling the trigger - prequalified, getting our preapproval next week, signed with a Realtor. 

It's a starter home we're in the market for - room for us and perhaps a baby over the next five to eight years. 

I wanted to reach out to the community, for those who have been where we are. I know NOTHING about home-buying (lucky for me FI is much better about these things). 

What do you wish someone had told you when you were first starting out? 

Achievement Unlocked: Survived Your Wedding! 

Re: Newbies Looking to Buy - Any Advice?

  • Here are a few posts from my blog about this exact thing. I thought that homebuying was overwhelming at times, and being a first-time homeowner, I didn't actually find as many resources as I had thought there would be. 

    The best pointers that I can give are to take your time, have a specific list of your needs vs. your wants, and don't be afraid to go over budget by $10K - it turns out to just be a little bit extra a month, like $20 or so. I hope that you find my posts helpful.  

  • Step one - get your finances in order.  Pay off consumer debt.
    Have a GOOD emergency fund of a minimum of 6 months EXPENSES.
    Read - Home Buying for Dummies
    Read - Mortgages for Dummies

    Save 20% downpayment, closing costs, moving and start up costs, renovations/repairs, decorating/additional furniture, tools and yard items.----AND still have your emergency fund in place.

    Keep your housing costs to no more than 25-28% of your TAKEHOME pay (mortgage+PMI+insurnce+taxes+utilities+HOA)   Lenders will allow much more --- but you will mostlikely  find yourself house poor.  Make sure you will still be able to afford your payment should you have a child, lose a job, have a serious illness -- stuff happens.

    Don't be in a hurry - get ALL your ducks in a row first.
    Then make a list of your NEEDS (on which you will not compromise) and also a list of WANTS (and prioritize them as you will have to compromise on some of these)
    Many people have bought homes with the idea it would be short term, and then life's circumstances or outside events get in the way.  Be prepared to live in the house longer than expected.
  • When is the wedding?  I do not recommend buying prior to marriage .  IF you do - make sure you have a plan on how to deal with the house should you not make it to the altar.  (Marriage gives you more legal protections should you split up.)  No one thinks it will happen to them --- but it can and does happen - and that makes for a serious mess.

    When you make your budget - allow for children (will you SAH? or use daycare - add that cost into your budget)
  • Woo! Thanks for the responses. :)

    We decided to make this move because we do have 20% and then some, enough for closing costs, furnishing and some upgrades based on the price range we're looking in. It'll leave us with an untouched emergency fund. As for the wedding, we're saving up for that so it's about a year away - we knew going into it that we would NOT be going into debt over it and that we would not be touching our savings for it.

    We are VERY nervous about getting stuck in a house - it's happened to friends of ours. So while this house is too small to raise three teenagers in it, it does have enough space for us to manage two young children, three if we get really stuck. It would be cramped and entirely not ideal, but if something absolutely terrible should happen we could make it work. If we got INSANELY stuck for some weird reason ... well, we'd be living on top of each other but everyone would have a bed.

    That is fabulous advice about the daycare - I hadn't thought of that! Ideally I would be a SAH but we aren't planning on that. Fortunately the nature of my work offers lots of teleworking opportunities, even if I stay with my current job for the next five years. Again, not something that can be depended on, that we know.

    When we got pre-qualified our eyeballs almost exploded at the amount they said we could afford. We plan on taking less than half of what we could potentially get - the whole point of buying now is to have more space for less than we pay in rent for our apartment.

    As for marriage, I agree that buying a house together before marriage is strange. For me, moving in with him before we were married was questionable. But we had spent our relationship traveling 2 hours to see each other, and we knew we wanted to save for the wedding. It made more sense to pool our resources and move in together both emotionally and financially. Morally I'm not thrilled with it, but it is a choice we made and we will live with it.

    If we should split before the wedding, there's a few options. I don't like to think about them (naturally) but that portion of things would be 'simple' to manage - as simple as such things usually are.

    I think the reason we really want to buy now is that we want to take advantage of interest rates. It's not just moving in to a house that is ours, although we are beyond excited for that. It is an investment in our future that we want to make.

    Achievement Unlocked: Survived Your Wedding! 
  • Best of luck with your house hunting.
  • Here are a few posts from my blog about this exact thing. I thought that homebuying was overwhelming at times, and being a first-time homeowner, I didn't actually find as many resources as I had thought there would be. 


    The best pointers that I can give are to take your time, have a specific list of your needs vs. your wants, and don't be afraid to go over budget by $10K - it turns out to just be a little bit extra a month, like $20 or so. I hope that you find my posts helpful.  

    I would actually offer different advice-you sound very financially responsible, but I'd go slightly under what you could afford. We did out a "post baby budget" including worst-case-scenario daycare costs (5 days at a quality center) and kept all of the recommended ratios in mind to decide on our price range. We ended up with a home in the middle of that range, and although it's turned out fine, any more really would have compromised our other goals.

    My advice is to find an AWESOME realtor, look at local credit unions for your mortgage, and ask homeowner friends from your area about typical utility bills. Also, if there's a large appliance in the house you'd like, it doesn't hurt to include that in your offer. Our seller was willing to leave the lawnmower, which has been a great perk.
  • MegEn1 said:
    Woo! Thanks for the responses. :)

    We decided to make this move because we do have 20% and then some, enough for closing costs, furnishing and some upgrades based on the price range we're looking in. It'll leave us with an untouched emergency fund. As for the wedding, we're saving up for that so it's about a year away - we knew going into it that we would NOT be going into debt over it and that we would not be touching our savings for it.

    We are VERY nervous about getting stuck in a house - it's happened to friends of ours. So while this house is too small to raise three teenagers in it, it does have enough space for us to manage two young children, three if we get really stuck. It would be cramped and entirely not ideal, but if something absolutely terrible should happen we could make it work. If we got INSANELY stuck for some weird reason ... well, we'd be living on top of each other but everyone would have a bed.

    That is fabulous advice about the daycare - I hadn't thought of that! Ideally I would be a SAH but we aren't planning on that. Fortunately the nature of my work offers lots of teleworking opportunities, even if I stay with my current job for the next five years. Again, not something that can be depended on, that we know.

    When we got pre-qualified our eyeballs almost exploded at the amount they said we could afford. We plan on taking less than half of what we could potentially get - the whole point of buying now is to have more space for less than we pay in rent for our apartment.

    As for marriage, I agree that buying a house together before marriage is strange. For me, moving in with him before we were married was questionable. But we had spent our relationship traveling 2 hours to see each other, and we knew we wanted to save for the wedding. It made more sense to pool our resources and move in together both emotionally and financially. Morally I'm not thrilled with it, but it is a choice we made and we will live with it.

    If we should split before the wedding, there's a few options. I don't like to think about them (naturally) but that portion of things would be 'simple' to manage - as simple as such things usually are.

    I think the reason we really want to buy now is that we want to take advantage of interest rates. It's not just moving in to a house that is ours, although we are beyond excited for that. It is an investment in our future that we want to make.

    No. No. No. The amount the bank says you can AFFORD is the amount you can be approved for, it's not the amount you can afford. Those two words are often confused by newbies in this process. Only you and your future DH can know how much you can afford based on future spending and savings plans, current income, and expenses.

    The bank can only see expenses listed on your credit reports. No cell phones, utilities, day care, private loans, gas, groceries, insurance payments, medical deductibles, etc. show up to them. You could be sending your kid to a $20k per year prep school and the bank won't know it if it's not on your credit report. The point of figuring out what you can afford is your responsibility, not the bank's.

    The amount they quoted to you is the amount they may be willing to lend you based on what they see on your credit and on your pay stub. It factors in nothing else. This is why so many buyers have gotten to be mortgage poor.

    Put on the brakes and read Home Buying for Dummies before proceeding. There will be a few chapters you can skip, but I guarantee that you will learn a few things.

     


     

  • Be careful with the amount you tell your Realtor you can spend. Only after we were knee deep in the process did someone say "tell them $20K under what you can afford as they will push you to spend more" as PP said, you need buffer room too. Plan on being in your house at least 5 years, depending on how the economy and market go you might be there longer so like what you have for now.Is your FI on the same page about moving in a few years too? Make sure that's the case and that he's not looking for longer term, perhaps a lifelong house.

    As PP also said really budget what you can afford. Depending on what part of the country you live in you need to budget for lawn mowers, snow blowers, additional gas in the winter, heating bills etc. DH and I also like to save for future home improvements and travel, that has to be factored into the mortgage. Last but not least paying a little ahead on your mortgage when you can makes a huge difference, but you need room for that.

    Be realistic with future improvement projects, it's easy to say "oh we'll just update that and move this" it's another to actually have the money and time to do the repairs and updates. If the bill is getting higher than you can save (while keeping a buffer for emergencies like the hot water heater breaking) don't buy that house, improvements won't get any cheaper in 5 years. Also think about how much has to be done to get into the house (painting/carpeting/repairs) can you handle that much starting off?

    Interview Realtors and get recommendations from other people. We went through a few because the ones we worked with didn't meet our needs. DH and I work opposite schedules and couldn't do a lot of showings at the same time (I didn't want only one of us looking at a time.) I found we did a lot of the work finding potential houses, the Realtor basically just set up the showings. If your'e not comfortable with them don't sign the contract then you're stuck with them.

    Finally, I agree with being married first. VA loans require (at least in my state) that the couple be married for both parties to have their name on the mortgage. I wouldn't buy a house without my name on it. I also like the final commitment of marriage before making the second (IMO) biggest decision in your life.

    Good luck!
  • JaydenUSRJaydenUSR member
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    edited November 2014

    MegEn1 said:
    Hello Nesties!

    FI and I have been flirting with the idea of buying a house for a few months. We're pulling the trigger - prequalified, getting our preapproval next week, signed with a Realtor. 

    It's a starter home we're in the market for - room for us and perhaps a baby over the next five to eight years. 

    I wanted to reach out to the community, for those who have been where we are. I know NOTHING about home-buying (lucky for me FI is much better about these things). 

    What do you wish someone had told you when you were first starting out? 

    Before you buy a house, here are the basic things that you should remember. 

    Don't buy if you can't stay put.
    If you can't commit to remaining in one place for at least a few years, then owning is probably not for you, at least not yet. 

    Start by shoring up your credit.
    Since you most likely will need to get a mortgage to buy a house, you must make sure your credit history is as clean as possible. 

    Aim for a home you can really afford.
    The rule of thumb is that you can buy housing that runs about two-and-one-half times your annual salary. 

    If you can't put down the usual 20 percent, you may still qualify for a loan.
    There are a variety of public and private lenders who, if you qualify, offer low-interest mortgages that require a small down payment.

    Get professional help.
    Even though the Internet gives buyers unprecedented access to home listings, most new buyers (and many more experienced ones) are better off using a professional agent.  But as much as possible look for someone who is reliable to help you.

    I've been in your situation before and I was lucky to meet a good Realtor in Houston. Hope this tips can help you.
  • @NestCayla - Can you please ban Patrick, he's obviously only here to solicit.
  • Thanks so much for posting that blog about home buying! That was super helpful. My husband and I are also in RI and are just starting to go through the first steps. 
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