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Mom jealous of ILs..how to deal

Hi all, I hope I can get some insight (or someone to commiserate with me!) 

First a little background: My husband and I have been married for a few years, no kids. Before we were married, we did the long-distance thing and then I moved to his hometown when we got engaged. His hometown is about 2 hours away from where my parents live.  Now, we live thousands of miles away from everyone, but we are hoping to move back to DH hometown. I consider DH hometown, my hometown. We have a great circle of friends, and two of my best friends just moved there too. When we have been home, we always go stay with my parents for at least 4 nights, but generally we spend more time in DH hometown. His parents are divorced and they both come from large families, so there's at least 4 Christmas parties to go to. 

With our impending return, my mom has gotten really emotional about how we divide our time at holidays, and then when we move permanently back and probably worse when we have kids.  For example:

Jokingly saying "Gosh, when you have kids, I'm just going to have to stay with you every week so they have equal time with me and the ILs"

"So if we moved down, would you see us every week like you see MIL?"

"Sorry our town isn't as exciting as DH hometown"

"It's not fair that we only get 1/3 of your time just because DH parent's are divorced"

And my personal favorite:

"You married DH, not his family" and then crying

I've told her that we have more quality time with her and my dad when we visit because they prioritize us. When we are visiting my ILs, it's always a big thing, and we never have any alone time with his mom or dad. I think she's jealous of my ILs TBH.  She's under the impression that we would see them every week (not true). I keep telling her fair isn't equal. She has this way of saying shit like this when she's jealous or self-conscious. But DH loves my dad more than his own, and I think we have real life conversations with my parents and superficial stuff with my ILs. I tell her this over and over. I've been nice, and I've been a bitch about it. I've ignored her emails. I can't talk to DH about this, it would probably piss him off. 

In her most recent email :  "I just get upset with all the additional time that  people see you. Sorry! (Do u see a pattern ?) don't yell at me!!! Haha!!!"   

What else can I do? I don't feel like I can talk about this with anyone, not even my brother.  If I tell her she's being selfish, she will cry. I want to talk to my Dad about this, but I worry that he might feel the same way as her.....

Thanks and sorry for the novel!

Re: Mom jealous of ILs..how to deal

  • I'd move to ignore and even change the topic.  Every.single.time.  Don't engage her - at ALL - on this issue. 

    And if pushed on "why are you ignoring me?", I'd just say "Nothing I say appeases you so I'm no longer discussing this issue with me.  Can you pass the peas (or whatever to change the topic)?".  And then go back to not engaging at ALL. 

    It's just the two of you in the car and she says ANYTHING about this, respond as if she didn't even say anything.  Just start talking about something else.  She keeps pushing?  Keep not responding.  Seriously.  She wants a response, she wants pity, she wants something you can't give her.

    SHUT the topic down. 
  • And my personal favorite:

    "You married DH, not his family" and then crying

    She has sort of a point there.

    The 2 of you need to be doing things on your own and being your own family unit, because that's what you are.

    I have no idea why you had to live near his family. Why not in a locale that was of interest to you both, that was nowhere near either one of your parents' towns?

    Stay with your parents for HOW many nights???

    I suggest that the 2 of you cut back on the visits -- and consider living somewhere else other than near either one of your parents' home towns.
  • I'm going to start with this- I think she needs to control herself.  She's wayyyy overboard.  You need to keep ignoring it, but…

    I think you should have a little empathy.  Just a little.  My mother's friends are in this place where all their children are getting married and they feel like they're losing their children to their in laws.  My parents don't have that issue because we live really far away from H's family and we are rather estranged from them.  You get to a point in your life where your family structure completely changes and it takes some getting used to.  That being said, she NEEDS to get used to it.

    4 nights?  4 nights on a regular basis?  AND you go to DH's hometown a lot?  You guys need to spend less time with your families of origin and more time with each other.  I don't know how you've managed to create a family of your own when you spend so much time with each other's families.  Creating your own family is very important and this will help you put your families in the correct places in your lives. 
  • I can't believe some of the advice here is to actually stop spending time w/ both families. Good grief people. She and her DH can be their own family/unit but also still spend time w/ peopel who they care about and love. Neither exist in a vaccum.
  • Thanks to all the answers! So just to clear up some things:

    DH works for a large company with many branches. He has a great position and we were recently relocated from his "home" branch to another branch far away for a few years. We both want to move back to our "home" which happens to be his hometown. So, we at this moment, we are (happily) living as our own unit, far away from all of our friends and family.  So when we come "home" for the holidays we stay with my MIL, and try to split our time between my parents and my ILs, but the point is my mom isn't happy with any way we split it. 

    I apologize for the confusion, I was referring to staying with my parents for 4 nights over the holidays. We have only been home around the holidays, and I'm trying to mentally prepare myself to relocating back to the area in a few months. My mom keeps saying these things in reference to our move back to the state. 

    In my haste to keep the post short, I think it may have caused some confusion between the past, present and future!  I can see how @BlueBirdMB would say we need to spend less time with family, but in fact, this is only stress caused around the holidays, and when we move back soon.  

    I really hate the "you married DH, not his family" because when the tables are turned, she things that DH married me and my family.  I totally love that, but I think she's being unfair. And punishing me for the fact that he comes from a large, yet divorced family. 


  • Honestly, I think that having to do 4 holiday parties EACH AND EVERY HOLIDAY is not fair to anyone, but mostly you.  

    Fair does not mean Equal.  And when you are running around like this, you really ARENT given anyone quality time. And it sure as shit not giving you any fair or quality time. 

    Now, is your mom going about this in the right way? NO.  Should you point out the hypocrisy of her "you didnt marry his family" statement every time she pulls it? YES. 

    But at the same time, you do not need to see everyone every holiday. 

    Personally, even if I were living IN the area, I would alternate the holidays between everyone.  So Mom gets Christmas this year, MIL gets Christmas next year and FIL gets Christmas the year after that.  If you want to see the other families the weekend before or after so be it.  But Christmas Even and Christmas Day (not the whole day, just some plan that includes times within those 42 hours) are for one family only. 

    I would add Thanksgiving and any other 3 day weekend holiday where one of your families is may add a summons. 

    Honestly, by doing this, by keeping it just to one family a year: YOUR running around lessens, the us giving YOUR ability to create your own traditions, an opening.  

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  • And one more point.  YOUR CHILDREN!

    Let's say you keep running to 3 different families each and every year.  Take out the fact that this is highly unfair to your kids, who never get to fully appreciate any of the traditions or their toys or even a moment's peace...

    What happens when they get old enough to have their own families.  Are you expecting them to now split their time with 4 or even 5 or even 6 families over the holidays?  

    And I am not exaggerating over this possibility.  That is the life of a child and his/her offspring in a blended/divorced family.  Do you want to do that to your kids?   
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  • at842205 said:
    my mom isn't happy with any way we split it. 



    And part of this might be you accepting that she won't be happy.  Look - while I think the advice to "spend less time w/ family" is off, at the same time, you and DH need to figure out what works for the TWO OF YOU.


    Do you really WANT to split your time and run all over the place every holiday? If right now, with just the two of you, you really don't mind and you want to see everyone - then do it.  But if you're doing it because everyone else will be upset but youre tired of it... might be time to start coming up w/ a new plan.


    Because I FULLY agree w/ Illumine - if youhave kids, what's your plan then?  I think it's inherently unfair to make them run all over the place to appease other people's feelings.  I think kids deserve the right to have Christmas, at least, be about THEM. 

    SO.... start figuring this out.  AND also realize that you may just never be able to make your mom happy.  That's on her.  Not you.

  • I have a similar issue with my family.  Both DH's parents and mine are divorced and it's quite the argument with my mom each time I spend any time with my dad.  For now, we run around on the holidays (not this year.  This year we're living in a different state): 4 Christmases, 3 Thanksgivings, New Years is always a fight, but we never do anything for it.  I don't mind as much now, but once we have kids, I'm going to do a holiday at my house and people can come to me.
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  • My mom is like this. Like, a lot. I moved in with DH when we were dating (1/2 hr from his parents 1.5hr from mine) and she was constantly making little comments that implied that she thought we spent more time with them than with my parents.

    It's worse now with our LO so we just try not to talk about it much. My MIL actually watches our LO once a week (we would never in a million years let my mother look after LO) and my mother doesn't know this. We figured there is no point rocking the boat. We also asked MIL to keep comments about looking after LO to a minimum when my mother is around so that she doesn't find out. (Which I felt bad about, I think my MIL thinks we are harsh but seriously, sometimes I am shocked that I made it out of my parents house alive until I realize I spent the majority of my childhood being cared for by my grandmother.)
  • My parents are divorced and around the holidays if it was up to everyone we would have 5 separate Christmas' between everyone. That doesn't work for us, so we do Christmas Eve with my in-laws, and then we choose a weekend in December and I invite all my family to our house for one day. If they don't come because of issues I don't care. If you spend your time trying to please everyone it will just exhaust you and you won't be happy. Do what works for you and your husband.
  • Lucky, you have family who love you and clearly miss you. Id bet you have a Super Mom who always put you first. Who also would like  to continue to be an integral part of you life. Also seems your Mom has no problem with your spouse.

     Ask if his family would be welcome to visit your parents house with you. Your spouse's family would likely respond by inviting your parents along when visiting them.

    When my parents and their parents were alive. We always included all sides of the family. My parents often talked about the love and gratitude they felt for their in-laws. I'd trade anything to have my parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins back. Those who were interested or could would take vacations together. We actually knew each other back in the day. Today families meet at fun hotels and have family get togethers that way everyone  participates as they choose. God Bless please just love your Mom.

     

    With a large two part family would they object if you brought along your parents. Your Mom misses you and wants to spend every minute she can with you and your spouse Please just love her back .

  • I'll commiserate with you!!!! My mom is EXACTLY the same way. It is beyond frustrating. My husband's family is very big and there are 5 nieces and nephews where on my side of the family it is just her, my dad and my brother whom I am somewhat estranged from. My parents moved 2 hours away from me after they retired and my IL live 2 minutes from me. It's natural that I see them more and there is more going on because of all the kids around. But I am the same way - my husband tells my parents more than he tells his, he is more open with them, etc. but that isn't enough for my mother. It's beyond frustrating. I don't want to hurt her or my dad but I'm not sure what to do about it! She has brought up grandchildren, "Am I ever even going to see my grandchildren or are they always going to be with MIL?" Well.... you moved 2 hours away! What do you want me to do? I can't travel constantly with a newborn. It's a tough situation. I feel your pain!!! 
  • OP, just out of curiosity, does she and your dad have plans to visit you all in your new home?  Or is she just expecting it to always be the two of you making the 4-hour round trip?

    One thing I find extra weird.  From what I understand, you and your H currently live very far away from both families.  And are about to move back to the same town as your ILs and only 2 hours from your parents.  OMG!!!  You'd think she would be THRILLED about that!

    Maybe that is something to point out.  Like, "Mom, we'll be so much closer!  Right now, we only see you all once a year during the holidays.  Now, we can see you all much more often.  Yet, it seems to just be upsetting you."

  • Just another question out of curiosity.  I mean you know your mom and the situation better than all of us, but is it possible that there's something else bothering your mom that maybe she might not even realize and this is how it is coming out?

    It might be worth asking your dad about it to see if he has any ideas.
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  • OP, just out of curiosity, does she and your dad have plans to visit you all in your new home?  Or is she just expecting it to always be the two of you making the 4-hour round trip?

    One thing I find extra weird.  From what I understand, you and your H currently live very far away from both families.  And are about to move back to the same town as your ILs and only 2 hours from your parents.  OMG!!!  You'd think she would be THRILLED about that!

    Maybe that is something to point out.  Like, "Mom, we'll be so much closer!  Right now, we only see you all once a year during the holidays.  Now, we can see you all much more often.  Yet, it seems to just be upsetting you."


    LOVE this point!!!
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