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How do I tell him I know?

Ok so the BF is a wonderful man, but nobody is perfect, and I think I came across T's flaw. I came across a collection bill when he wasn't home the other day and it took my breath away. This is a very serious (as in nearly 6 digits) issue, but I don't know how to address it. I know he isn't paying it because I know his bank account. I know where every bit of it goes. He pays all his current bills, so I had no idea he had medical bills this astronomical. I feel like it's important enough not to ignore it, but I don't know how to bring it up without him thinking I was snooping or becoming self conscious about it. This is a very serious relationship and we are expecting our first kid in 3 months. Am I taking this wrong? How do I go to him about it?
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Re: How do I tell him I know?

  • Yikes. I think you need to just come clean and tell him. I don't think you're taking it wrong; it is serious and you have a baby on the way.

    Other regulars know more about collections stuff than me, but I'd imagine what will need to happen is BF will need to start saving until he has a substantial enough sum to settle the debt. In the meantime, make sure to keep all your accounts, CCs, etc. separate.

    The separate issue here is the relationship issue. Did you feel he was hiding or keeping this from you personally? Because that would be a major red flag to me. If it's more of a lie of omission, it's still something you'll need to work through. H and I didn't lay our financial cards on the table until we were very close to engagement. We both had some icky stuff-a ton of CC debt for me, a history of late SL payments for him. We both wanted to change, however, and provided each other with emotional and strategic support for getting on track before combining finances after the wedding. Good luck. When you do talk to him, the attitude of his reaction will speak loads to me about how to proceed.

    Finally, make sure he's got health insurance to avoid this type of thing going forward. It's still open enrollment for ACA plans until February.
  • Come clean.  Tell him how you found it too.  If you were cleaning up, going through stuff, and it was just lying there, you did nothing wrong.  If you were snooping, then you might ask yourself why you felt the need to do that,  Were there other red flags?

    That's a pretty serious issue.  It's even more serious if he isn't paying on it.  That has probably done some pretty poor things for his credit.

    I personally could not trust somebody who hid things that big.  You aren't married so normally I would say it's none of your business (yet), but if you are having a child together then I think that changes things.

    I agree with Xstatic that you guys need to keep things separate.  You don't want your own credit to be tied to somebody who ignores bills that big.
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  • I agree with @Hofsee  how did you come about it?  I have seen bills or personal things of my husbands before because they were in a pile on the table and I was cleaning up.  Not snooping, just honestly seeing something. (we haven't had an issue, but I can see how I could 'discover' something that way)  If thats the case, just tell him you were cleaning papers and thought it was yours.  If you thought something was up and you were snooping I would potentially present to him your other concerns first and maybe that will lead him into confessing.  I don't think that lying or deceit are the way to deal with it, but I also think that if you start off accusatory and his first thought is you are snooping, the conversation likely will not go very well.



  • So is he your boyfriend or your husband?? (that makes a difference!) You say BF in your post, but then there also is the siggy that says you have been married 7 years???
    How old is the bill?  Will it soon fall off any collections?

    With all the talk of buying a house years ago, then the car - how/ why was this not discovered -- or is the medical bill a new charge?
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    So is he your boyfriend or your husband?? (that makes a difference!) You say BF in your post, but then there also is the siggy that says you have been married 7 years???
    How old is the bill?  Will it soon fall off any collections?

    With all the talk of buying a house years ago, then the car - how/ why was this not discovered -- or is the medical bill a new charge?

    I had to read this twice to understand. I only post/read from my phone so I don't see my siggy. I thought I deleted the marriage ticker. My husband and I split 3 years ago.

    I wasn't snooping it was a legit cleaning up mail. He didn't put it back in the envelope. Just laid it on the envelope. I think if he was trying to hide it he would have worked harder. To be honest I never asked so I think it was more something we just haven't discussed. I'm aware of his surgery that resulted in the bill I just didn't know there was a bill.
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  • So is he your boyfriend or your husband?? (that makes a difference!) You say BF in your post, but then there also is the siggy that says you have been married 7 years???
    How old is the bill?  Will it soon fall off any collections?

    With all the talk of buying a house years ago, then the car - how/ why was this not discovered -- or is the medical bill a new charge?
    I had to read this twice to understand. I only post/read from my phone so I don't see my siggy. I thought I deleted the marriage ticker. My husband and I split 3 years ago. I wasn't snooping it was a legit cleaning up mail. He didn't put it back in the envelope. Just laid it on the envelope. I think if he was trying to hide it he would have worked harder. To be honest I never asked so I think it was more something we just haven't discussed. I'm aware of his surgery that resulted in the bill I just didn't know there was a bill.
    In that case, tell him you found it while cleaning up - which is true - and you'd like to discuss it and see if you guys can come up with a way to tackle it.

    Hopefully he won't be angry that you found it.  You didn't snoop.

    Speaking of snooping, H and I actually open each other's mail.  Whoever gets to the mailbox first opens it.  The only thing we don't look at is each other's work files, because that's privileged info of our clients, and we work at competing law firms.  But everything else is fair game for us.  I'm just thinking that if I had found something like that, I don't think it would be a big deal to bring it up to my H.  I guess I could see him getting defensive of how he had handled it, but I don't think he would be able to get angry at me for finding it.  

    I do think that I would still keep finances separate in your case.  His credit may be pretty bad from this, and I wouldn't want to risk my own.  
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    Sisugal said:


    So is he your boyfriend or your husband?? (that makes a difference!) You say BF in your post, but then there also is the siggy that says you have been married 7 years???
    How old is the bill?  Will it soon fall off any collections?

    With all the talk of buying a house years ago, then the car - how/ why was this not discovered -- or is the medical bill a new charge?

    I had to read this twice to understand. I only post/read from my phone so I don't see my siggy. I thought I deleted the marriage ticker. My husband and I split 3 years ago.

    I wasn't snooping it was a legit cleaning up mail. He didn't put it back in the envelope. Just laid it on the envelope. I think if he was trying to hide it he would have worked harder. To be honest I never asked so I think it was more something we just haven't discussed. I'm aware of his surgery that resulted in the bill I just didn't know there was a bill.

    In that case, tell him you found it while cleaning up - which is true - and you'd like to discuss it and see if you guys can come up with a way to tackle it.

    Hopefully he won't be angry that you found it.  You didn't snoop.

    Speaking of snooping, H and I actually open each other's mail.  Whoever gets to the mailbox first opens it.  The only thing we don't look at is each other's work files, because that's privileged info of our clients, and we work at competing law firms.  But everything else is fair game for us.  I'm just thinking that if I had found something like that, I don't think it would be a big deal to bring it up to my H.  I guess I could see him getting defensive of how he had handled it, but I don't think he would be able to get angry at me for finding it.  

    I do think that I would still keep finances separate in your case.  His credit may be pretty bad from this, and I wouldn't want to risk my own.  


    Same-this didn't even occur to me as "snooping" since we open each other's mail regularly just to keep the piles down. We did pre-marriage, too.

    OP, I'd just say, "I found this. Can we work out a plan to help you deal with it?" If he's a good guy who wants to deal with it, he'll be relieved and open to the conversation. If he reacts poorly or out of anger, then that's a different problem altogether.
  • Come clean about finding it, but watch his reaction to see if he is surprised by this. The reason I'm saying this is when I married my husband I was aware of his debit issues. While doing a yearly check up on the reports I ordered his report from Transunion, which we hadn't done in the past, normally I had just done Experian. Well there were medical bills on Transunion that didn't show on either of other two Credti reporting companies (I had ordered all 3 at that time when I found this). So I called and did some reasearch and found out what they were for. We weren't getting any notices in the mail for these bills, I had been handling his bills/mail for almost two years at this point. Now that we've paid this and a few others (which we knew about) we're getting others popping out of the woodwork who all of sudden want their money. I've been sending a few "please verify the debt" letters to make sure the debts are legit. At one point we had two different collection companies trying to collect on the same debt. I'm not saying that his medical bills are fake. But my husband didn't honestly remember getting any bills in the beginning. And they weren't crazy big bills, it was a lot of $30.00, $25.00, $80.00 but it added up. Once you address if he realized he had this debt, then you can decide what you want to do going forward. And yes I realize my husband could have been "faking his reaction" but when I was going over the list of debts I found on his credit report and I was like, do you remember x company, yes I do. Do you remember y company, yes I do, Do you remember the medical bills, what, what medical bills. That was the reaction I got. That's how I know he wasn't hiding it from me. He was honestly shocked by the medical bills owed.

     

  • I'm of the thought process of keeping everything open and honest in any very serious relationship (regardless of marital status). Besides, if you find something then they lose all rights to privacy. 

    But i'm not even sure he's trying to hide anything. Any man with half a brain trying to hide something wouldn't leave it out on the table in plain sight. IF its real (my DH had things show up on his credit report from when he was like 2 years old and he had to dispute it) I would just straight out ask him "whats this" "is this real" "do you really have all this medical debt in collections? what happened?" I wouldn't jump straight to a "you lied to me" assumption until after he admits its real. Something serious had to go down with no health insurance to end up with a medical debt of that magnitute? Does it say a year - maybe its from when he was little and his parents were supposed to cover it?

    If i found a bill like that even before we were married, my first thought would be identity theft. 
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