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My Fiance is a momma's boy....?

So I will be getting married in July and I am starting to notice the relationship my soon to be hubby has with his mother. Now I do like her, but I can't help but see her as very needy. She calls him everyday and if he doesn't answer she texts me in utter worry, she assumes the worst over one missed call. When she calls it can be over the silliest thing or she needs something done. He will be out that door in a heartbeat for her; if he isn't she will get upset and guilt him till he comes. 
He will go over and spend tons of time with her, even forget to call me to tell me where he is. For a while he was feeding her cats because she had moved and hadn't brought them with her. Now it is a drive for us but for her it is nothing.Then there is the money thing.... He is always giving her money! He is the only one working at the moment since I took off to get my license and am currently looking for a job. Now she knows this but will still plead for cash. 
I have no issues with giving her money for necessities but we have to pay for her boyfriends phone card since he is currently in prison. I burn when she asks for that. Then my fiance had the gull to tell me we only had enough money for gas because he gave her well over $200. It seems so constant.... always money or something with her and he will give it to her
! She has two other sons but she won't bother them. She seems like someone who needs to rely on another. She acts like a strong woman but if there isn't a man around she is a mess. Since her boyfriend isn't around she is so much worse! I may be alone on this but I was raised to be self reliant. My mother is a strong woman and even while battling cancer still works her butt off and takes care of my niece. I suppose my view on mothers is far different then his. I mean he tells me my relationship with my mother is strange. We talk but not everyday. Maybe like 3 times a week?  Now am I over reacting? I am happy he has a great relationship with her; I just think it's a little extreme. Any advice? 

Answers

  • So did he do this when y'all were dating? I'm guessing the reason she doesn't bother the other 2 sons is that they say no. This will not change until the day she dies. Cut your losses and find a man who is already weaned.
  • You are not over-reacting. This behavior will probably only get worse after you get married and she thinks her precious little boy has been taken away from her. I suggest thinking deeply about what you want to say, and what boundaries you'd like to set NOW (before you're married), and then speak to your fiance about it in a loving, respectful way. I can't really give other advice until you do because your next steps after that will depend on how he takes what you have to say.

    I think it's harsh to suggest you cut him out of your life, but you definitely need to act now to set boundaries and your fiance needs to know how you feel about this.
  • If I've learned nothing else reading these boards.....run away now!  This won't get better later.
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  • When I was young and dating, I was told "look at the way he treats his mother - it will be an indication of how he treats you."  As a result, I always thought that a man who cares for and spends time with his mother was a good thing. 

    However....

    The problem comes when you're preparing for marriage, and he fails to transfer the majority of that care and time over to YOU.  It is reasonable for a man (especially before he is married) to want to care for an aging parent (especially one who is unmarried), but pretty soon, he is going to create a new family with you - and that family needs to be his new #1 priority.  He can still love and care for his mother, but once you two are a family (and you need to plan for and prepare for that change in behavior NOW), how much you two are both able to care for and give to his mother needs to be a joint decision. 

    The fact that he wants to help her, or take care of her isn't really the big "red flag" here.  The BIG "red flag" is the fact that he is continuing to make her a priority of his time and money without consulting you.  Very soon, his money will be your money (and vice versa).  As a part of marriage preparation, you need to develop a unified budget between the two of you.  Every expense needs to be planned out and budgeted, with enough savings/wiggle room to account for the unplanned expenses.  That includes money that he gives to his mother (which you need to decide together can be how much - if any, and how often - if ever). 

    In addition to a unified budget, you two need to sit down and talk about your expectations for your marriage.  If he is expecting to continue to care for his mother at the same level he always has, and you expect him to focus on the life that you create together instead - then you need to let your expectations be known, and reconcile them.  My husband and I use a book titled Saving Your Marriage Before it Starts.  There are a ton of marriage prep materials available - what is important is to find something that gets you two discussing things together.  You can do it on your own too, I just liked the questions/exercises that the book provided us. 

    It is possible that while preparing for marriage, he realizes that his priorities need to change, and he actually changes them.  It is also possible that he doesn't, and you need to make the decision on whether or not you're prepared to live the rest of your life tethered to his mother.  Either way, you need to know what you're getting into (or as much as can be known before you're actually married - I realize you can't plan for every little event/situation).
  • I wouldn't marry someone like this. 

    One of my brothers is perpetually single because my mother is just like your MIL. 
  • I would sit him down and give him one more chance.  Remind him of the vows that you are about to make and one of those vows are " To Forsake all others and let no one come between."  All others includes his mother.  That means you come before her.  That is right you come before her.  She is not equal to you, you are above her.  Your needs and desires come before hers.  Let him know that he needs to prove to you BEFORE you are married that he can uphold these vows.  Not on the day you get married, before.  

    Then you watch him because he might blow smoke up your butt and tell you what you want to hear, but remember actions speak louder than words.  If he can't prove to you with his actions that you come first, then you end things.  Yes you end things because if you stayed you would be choosing a life of misery for yourself.  TRust me.  We this situation comes up many, many times on here and lots of woman regret attaching themselves to a mama's boy.  
  • KimHere said:

    So I will be getting married in July and I am starting to notice the relationship my soon to be hubby has with his mother. Now I do like her, but I can't help but see her as very needy. She calls him everyday and if he doesn't answer she texts me in utter worry, she assumes the worst over one missed call.  WHAT??  Not normal. When she calls it can be over the silliest thing or she needs something done. He will be out that door in a heartbeat for her; if he isn't she will get upset and guilt him till he comes.  With no thought to his other priorities or responsibilities both to himself and to you?

    KimHere said:

    He will go over and spend tons of time with her, even forget to call me to tell me where he is. So okay.  For a while he was feeding her cats because she had moved and hadn't brought them with her. Now it is a drive for us but for her it is nothing.Then there is the money thing.... He is always giving her money! He is the only one working at the moment since I took off to get my license and am currently looking for a job. Now she knows this but will still plead for cash. 
    I have no issues with giving her money for necessities but we have to pay for her boyfriends phone card since he is currently in prison. I burn when she asks for that. Then my fiance had the gull to tell me we only had enough money for gas because he gave her well over $200. It seems so constant.... always money or something with her and he will give it to her
    !  This will soon be your money too.  There is such a huge problem I don't even know where to begin.  You could have just said this and I would have said run. She has two other sons but she won't bother them. She seems like someone who needs to rely on another. She acts like a strong woman but if there isn't a man around she is a mess. Since her boyfriend isn't around she is so much worse! I may be alone on this but I was raised to be self reliant. My mother is a strong woman and even while battling cancer still works her butt off and takes care of my niece. I suppose my view on mothers is far different then his. I mean he tells me my relationship with my mother is strange. We talk but not everyday. Maybe like 3 times a week?  Now am I over reacting? I am happy he has a great relationship with her; I just think it's a little extreme. Any advice? You talk 3 times a week but it's more strange than his relationship with his mom????
    I am very very close with my mom.  We talk every day.  We are involved in each other's lives.  I wouldn't run over at a moment's notice to solve her problems.  I wouldn't give her money.  I wouldn't go there without telling my husband.  She doesn't freak out if she calls me and I don't respond right away.  My husband calls his mom almost every day.  He is all that she really has and so he feels a responsibility to call her and check in.  They talk for about 15 minutes about their days.  He doesn't run there to solve her problems or give her money.

    I would 100% NEVER marry a man who was constantly giving his mother money.  Period.  The end.
  • KimHere said:

    So I will be getting married in July and I am starting to notice the relationship my soon to be hubby has with his mother. Now I do like her, but I can't help but see her as very needy. She calls him everyday and if he doesn't answer she texts me in utter worry, she assumes the worst over one missed call.  WHAT??  Not normal. When she calls it can be over the silliest thing or she needs something done. He will be out that door in a heartbeat for her; if he isn't she will get upset and guilt him till he comes.  With no thought to his other priorities or responsibilities both to himself and to you?

    KimHere said:

    He will go over and spend tons of time with her, even forget to call me to tell me where he is. So okay.  For a while he was feeding her cats because she had moved and hadn't brought them with her. Now it is a drive for us but for her it is nothing.Then there is the money thing.... He is always giving her money! He is the only one working at the moment since I took off to get my license and am currently looking for a job. Now she knows this but will still plead for cash. 
    I have no issues with giving her money for necessities but we have to pay for her boyfriends phone card since he is currently in prison. I burn when she asks for that. Then my fiance had the gull to tell me we only had enough money for gas because he gave her well over $200. It seems so constant.... always money or something with her and he will give it to her
    !  This will soon be your money too.  There is such a huge problem I don't even know where to begin.  You could have just said this and I would have said run. She has two other sons but she won't bother them. She seems like someone who needs to rely on another. She acts like a strong woman but if there isn't a man around she is a mess. Since her boyfriend isn't around she is so much worse! I may be alone on this but I was raised to be self reliant. My mother is a strong woman and even while battling cancer still works her butt off and takes care of my niece. I suppose my view on mothers is far different then his. I mean he tells me my relationship with my mother is strange. We talk but not everyday. Maybe like 3 times a week?  Now am I over reacting? I am happy he has a great relationship with her; I just think it's a little extreme. Any advice? You talk 3 times a week but it's more strange than his relationship with his mom????
    I am very very close with my mom.  We talk every day.  We are involved in each other's lives.  I wouldn't run over at a moment's notice to solve her problems.  I wouldn't give her money.  I wouldn't go there without telling my husband.  She doesn't freak out if she calls me and I don't respond right away.  My husband calls his mom almost every day.  He is all that she really has and so he feels a responsibility to call her and check in.  They talk for about 15 minutes about their days.  He doesn't run there to solve her problems or give her money.

    I would 100% NEVER marry a man who was constantly giving his mother money.  Period.  The end.
    I agree with this. If he wants to call her everyday, fine. I don't do that personally but I don't think it's unusual. If I were you, I would need the money to stop and the not telling you where he's going to stop, ASAP. I'd probably want the cat feeding to stop, because if she's not going to be a home for those cats she needs to work on finding them a new home (not that I'd let them starve in the meantime). You didn't mention these particular issues, but I'd also discuss 1) her not dropping by unannounced, 2) holiday divisions after the wedding, and 3) grandparents' roles in raising future children. Those things seem like big mama's boy issues around here.

    I would sit down, explain your concerns, and explain why you feel that way. I would need to see real, permanent change before the wedding. It's good that you're dealing with this before walking down the aisle.
  • Don't marry him.  At least not until this situation is resolved- IF it can be resolved.  And really.... chances are it can't. 

    She comes first.  Deal with this now.  If he's unwilling to see this and to work on making changes, then she will ALWAYS come first.  Before you and even before any kids you may have.

    Marriage DOES NOT change a man, and really, KIDS often don't either.  DOn't marry him thinking "oh- after we get married....". 

    Figure out now if this is fixable.  If it's not, run, run, run.

  • There are so many red flags here. I would have been out the door the minute my FI thought it was ok to spend hard earned money on some dude in prison. If this boyfriend raised your FI as his own and was an amazing father, maybe. But it sounds like he is just his mothers BF. 

    As far as your FI giving her money all the time, I don't see that coming to an end. I'm not against helping in an emergency, but the person receiving the help needs to be taking action toward a more permanent plan. It sounds like your future MIL's plan for financial independance is draining you two of any discretionary income you may have.

    Beyond the financial, the emotional impact of being married to someone who does not put you first would be significant. It will wear on you and your future children. You deserve to be with someone who puts you and your future first. You really do.
  • There are so many red flags here. I would have been out the door the minute my FI thought it was ok to spend hard earned money on some dude in prison. If this boyfriend raised your FI as his own and was an amazing father, maybe. But it sounds like he is just his mothers BF. 


    As far as your FI giving her money all the time, I don't see that coming to an end. I'm not against helping in an emergency, but the person receiving the help needs to be taking action toward a more permanent plan. It sounds like your future MIL's plan for financial independance is draining you two of any discretionary income you may have.

    Beyond the financial, the emotional impact of being married to someone who does not put you first would be significant. It will wear on you and your future children. You deserve to be with someone who puts you and your future first. You really do.



    This x10.  I'm assuming you all have at least one of the following monetary goals:  save for a house, have children, save for a secure retirement...and possibly all three.  He is jeopardizing those goals by regularly bailing out his mom.  Do you really want to tell future children 20 years down the road, "Sorry, we have no college fund for you because Nana needed to stay in touch with her felon b/f."  Or, "Sorry, hon, I know we were hoping to retire next year, but we'll need to put that off for five more years because we bought your mom groceries every week instead of maximizing our 401K."

    Maybe an extra $100 here or there a few times a month doesn't seem like much to your FI, but that same money over time becomes a substantial chunk...especially when you factor in the lost opportunity of growing that money for the future, ie college fund, 401K, etc.

  • This x10.  I'm assuming you all have at least one of the following monetary goals:  save for a house, have children, save for a secure retirement...and possibly all three.  He is jeopardizing those goals by regularly bailing out his mom.  Do you really want to tell future children 20 years down the road, "Sorry, we have no college fund for you because Nana needed to stay in touch with her felon b/f."  Or, "Sorry, hon, I know we were hoping to retire next year, but we'll need to put that off for five more years because we bought your mom groceries every week instead of maximizing our 401K."

    Exactly, or how would you like to tell your children " Sorry kids, we can't get you Christmas presents because Grandma had to pay her electricity bill" or " Sorry kids, we can't get you new school clothes because we had to buy grandma and her boyfriend groceries this month."
  • At the very least I would post pone the wedding, it may end up costing you some money, but if you book for a later date you may loose nothing. It sounds like you and FI have some serious issue to talk about and then you need time to make sure the changes you agree upon (Like, ok to help mom but no more then $x.xx per month because else you can't cover your own bills) are followed through. Better to delay the wedding to make sure you're both ok with things then end up divorced down the road.

     

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