WWMMD - Giving Notice - Update

kasi55 · February 2015

Lurker with a question.

Job asked for six weeks notice, but I would like to give notice of 2 weeks full time and an additional 2 weeks part time. Does that seem reasonable?

Edited to delete additional details. Thanks!

Xstatic3333 · February 2015

Although it seems reasonable to me, I have a lot less experience working in traditional office settings than many of the other ladies here. I think a lot of the blow could be softened by coming in as very thankful for the opportunities you have been given, the work experience, etc. when you actually tell them you're leaving.

vlagrl29 · February 2015

Xstatic3333 said:

Although it seems reasonable to me, I have a lot less experience working in traditional office settings than many of the other ladies here. I think a lot of the blow could be softened by coming in as very thankful for the opportunities you have been given, the work experience, etc. when you actually tell them you're leaving.

This is me. It seems reasonable to me, but I haven't worked in an office for 5 years.

short+sassy · February 2015

Wow, that sounds MORE than reasonable. What a bunch of kooks. You actually aren't required to give any notice. It's just an expected courtesy and two weeks notice is considered a proper notice almost across the board, in every job in every industry.

There are no "pluses" to doing what they want and only "cons". You're already leaving. What could they do to you? Maybe give you a bad reference (if you are even looking for another job), but that sounds unlikely. I'm laughing at the reference conversation:

New HR: "Hello, we are calling to get a reference for kasi55?"

Old HR: "Oh no, we can't give a positive reference. She only gave us two weeks' notice instead of the six weeks we wanted. She was a great employee until then, but it really put us in a jam."

New HR: "Oh. Okkaaayyyy. Uh, thanks for taking the time to tell us more about kasi55 (crazy people)."

I'd just politely tell them that, as they know, you all had already talked about you'd go to part-time as of March 2nd. And while you realize the part-time position will no longer be offered, you have already made arrangements to leave on March 2nd and will not be able to change them. Then you can throw out that, if it would help them out, you'd be happy to stay part-time for two weeks past that (or however long you'd be willing to do that).

Good luck!

simplyelise · February 2015

I've worked solely in office/administrative roles and that sounds more than fair.

I'd tell them asap and just say that you'd love to be able to accommodate the 6 weeks, but unfortunately you had already arranged to drop full-time childcare on the March 2 date and can only swing the care until March 11. Then I'd probably give them the option of having you come in for a couple days when they hire a replacement to provide training or continue on part time until the replacement is found.

Erikan73 · February 2015

simplyelise said:

I've worked solely in office/administrative roles and that sounds more than fair.

I'd tell them asap and just say that you'd love to be able to accommodate the 6 weeks, but unfortunately you had already arranged to drop full-time childcare on the March 2 date and can only swing the care until March 11. Then I'd probably give them the option of having you come in for a couple days when they hire a replacement to provide training or continue on part time until the replacement is found.

I agree with this, which is basically what it sounds like you were thinking of doing

als1982 · February 2015

What you're offering is very generous. While I would give at least two weeks, after being strung along for more than a year and then given such an ultimatum, I don't know that I would do any more than that.

kmurphy2131 · February 2015

I think that if you were training someone to start sharing the position with you, you had every right to be confident that your schedule was changing and arrange childcare accordingly. Therefore, you have no obligation to work fulltime after the date your schedule should have changed, and that is their mistake. That said, there are a few things to look at.

Is there a contract anywhere that says how much time you need to give? If you have a contract that says you need to give 6 weeks notice then the "correct" thing to do would be to work full-time until the date of the change, and then continue the parttime schedule to fulfill the 6 weeks (because it's their fault you don't have childcare, so you should not work full time) Now, that said, IF it's writing that you need to give 6 weeks you need to decide if you care if a bridge gets burned or not - they can't force you to go into work.

However, if there is nothing in writing that says you need to give 6 weeks notice disregard that entire last paragraph - two weeks notice is standard and that is ALL that I would give. (sidenote: I worked for a company with no written policy on notice, so I gave two weeks which is an industry standard and appropriate across the board - and all I could give. I was called unprofessional and treated very poorly for not giving 6 weeks, but I didn't budge because they could not produce it in writing).

Wulfgar · February 2015

From a manufacturing point of view, most in the industries where I have worked, you are only required to give 2 weeks notice.

The last job that I was not laid off from, I gave them something like a 4 month notice since I told them I was going to work for the full two year period that I thought I was signed up for before moving back North to their headquarters. This allowed them to hire my replacement and have time to turn over my projects to.

I have never heard of giving 6 weeks notice to an employer especially when you have been working with them to reduce your hours. As others have said, I would explain your boss and tell him that two weeks is all you can give.

FirstMate06 · February 2015

als1982 said:

What you're offering is very generous. While I would give at least two weeks, after being strung along for more than a year and then given such an ultimatum, I don't know that I would do any more than that.

This! Don't feel like you owe them anything extra or that you need to be accommodating to them when they haven't looked out for your best interests in all of this.

JoanE2012 · February 2015

Agree with PPs. If you were training someone with the intention of switching to part time on March 2nd, I would offer 2 weeks notice from now......until March 2nd full time, after March 2nd part time until those 2 weeks were fulfilled.

Absolutely no way would I stay on for 6 weeks for a company that promised me for over a year they would accommodate me part time and then changed their mind at the last minute.

kasi55 · February 2015

kmurphy2131 said:

Is there a contract anywhere that says how much time you need to give? If you have a contract that says you need to give 6 weeks notice then the "correct" thing to do would be to work full-time until the date of the change, and then continue the parttime schedule to fulfill the 6 weeks (because it's their fault you don't have childcare, so you should not work full time) Now, that said, IF it's writing that you need to give 6 weeks you need to decide if you care if a bridge gets burned or not - they can't force you to go into work.

There is no notice requirement listed in the personnel policies. Standard practice for this company in the past has been 2 weeks.

kmurphy2131 · February 2015

kasi55 said:

kmurphy2131 said:

Is there a contract anywhere that says how much time you need to give? If you have a contract that says you need to give 6 weeks notice then the "correct" thing to do would be to work full-time until the date of the change, and then continue the parttime schedule to fulfill the 6 weeks (because it's their fault you don't have childcare, so you should not work full time) Now, that said, IF it's writing that you need to give 6 weeks you need to decide if you care if a bridge gets burned or not - they can't force you to go into work.

There is no notice requirement listed in the personnel policies. Standard practice for this company in the past has been 2 weeks.

Then in that case I would only give two weeks notice. I hate when companies think that they can play games with people.

kasi55 · March 2015

So, I gave my notice with the 2 weeks full time and an additional 2 weeks part time. They came back and ask me to extend it by another week. I said no. My last day is March 27th.

vlagrl29 · March 2015

kasi55 said:
So, I gave my notice with the 2 weeks full time and an additional 2 weeks part time. They came back and ask me to extend it by another week. I said no. My last day is March 27th.

good for you!

JoanE2012 · March 2015

kasi55 said:
So, I gave my notice with the 2 weeks full time and an additional 2 weeks part time. They came back and ask me to extend it by another week. I said no. My last day is March 27th.

I'm not sure why you edited your OP to remove relevant details. As I recall, they promised you part time employment for over a year and then at the last minute said they couldn't accommodate that. I would've given them 2 weeks max. You're nicer than I am.

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