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Japan Trip

So H says he wants to go to Japan for his 30th bday which gives me 3 years of planning and saving. What should I know or do? Has anyone been? We've never been out of the country but have done several trips together so we don't even have passports at the moment.
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Re: Japan Trip

  • So H says he wants to go to Japan for his 30th bday which gives me 3 years of planning and saving. What should I know or do? Has anyone been? We've never been out of the country but have done several trips together so we don't even have passports at the moment.
    I haven't been, but it's on our list.

    I get the impression that Japan is one of those places where old (Kyoto) meets new (Tokyo) and everything in between.  H and I really want to go, but we're saving it for a time we can take at least 2 weeks off in a row.  There is too much we want to see for a 7-10 day trip.

    Why does your H want to go?  It's really far away and getting there is probably going to be pretty expensive.  I think he needs to know something about it or have something in mind that he wants to see if you guys are going to do that.

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    A few tips - not specific to Japan, but traveling out of the country generally:

    1) Passports can take a long time.

    2) You can't see it all.  Don't even try.  Pick one or two things a day you want to see or do, and then create a back-up list.  

    3) Study subway maps, train maps, google maps.  Base yourself near a good hub for public transport.   It will save you a ton of money, and public transport outside the US is a true marvel.

    4) Find a good travel credit card.  There are plenty with no foreign transaction fees.  It should be a visa or mastercard.  For cash, I usually bring ~$100 worth of currency with me (I order mine through my bank), and then I use an ATM once I'm there the rest of the time.  ATMs will usually give you the best exchange rate for cash.

    5) Be smart with the way you carry money.  I don't know if Japan is like this, but I know in Europe you're way more likely to be pickpocketed than you are in the US.  I've personally had an attempt made against me before.  Now you're more likely to be murdered in the US than in Europe (or Japan for that matter), but... yeah.  Having your money stolen can really ruin a trip, and as Americans you and your H probably aren't used to safeguarding your valuables constantly.  By this I mean your purse should not go on the back of your chair or under your chair.  You shouldn't carry a bag that has an open top.  You should keep your hand over the flap of your bag while you're on public transport.  Your H should not EVER carry a wallet in his back pocket.  Do some research to see if pickpocketing is a problem in Japan.  If it is, we can help you come up with a plan to safeguard your cards, cash, and passports.

    6) Buy trip insurance - both medical/evacuation and cancellation/trip interruption.  They will be bundled into one policy.  Do your research and don't cheap out on this.

    7) Read a guidebook to get a sense of the things you guys want to see and read trip advisor forums.  You can search for words like "itinerary" and get a sense of things the regulars recommend and logical pairings/groupings of cities.  When you read enough itineraries and critiques, you'll start to notice the same things being suggested over and over. 

    8) Finally, SAVE.  Take a look at websites like Kayak and see what flights cost a few months from now.  Look at expedia, hotels.com, etc. and see what hotels might cost.  Find out what train tickets cost.  Look at currency converters to find out what kind of buying power the dollar has over there. Prices are probably going to go up over the next few years.  You also have plenty of time to figure out ways to bring the price down.  Get a base price now though, and then keep checking as your travel dates approach.

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  • He is obsessed with Japan and anything even slightly Japanese. Our bedroom is packed with mangas, animes, figurines, old maps, tourist maps, you name it.
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  • I visited a friend that was living in Tokyo in 2007. I also made a side trip to Kyoto while I was there. It was a great trip. Japan is very unique.  Many people do not speak english but people are very polite and respectful.  I felt very safe and that pick pocketing was a low risk, however I still traveled smart securing my passport and so forth.

    Most of the time when I travel I like to take organized guided trips.  Then you have to do very little planning.  You can book an organized budget travel trip through companies like SmarTours, Gate1 travel or Cosmos. Check these out to get pricing ideas and see what the popular attractions are on their itineraries.  If the guided tour looks like something you are interested in then sign up for their email lists to be alerted to special discounts. 

  • I was able to see Tokyo, Osaka, and Kyoto in just under 2 weeks. The subways are very easy to navigate. Food was also easy, as most restaurants have pictures and/or fake food in the windows. Tokyo is very big and overwhelming feeling, whereas Osaka and Kyoto felt much less chaotic. I would recommend a city tour of Tokyo, and one that includes a traditional tea ceremony! It's an expensive trip, but totally worth it!

    We were surprised to find very few people who spoke English, so be aware of that. Men in business suits are your best bet if you are lost! High schoolers and young people will only giggle at you.
  • I've been.  I don't normally post here, but I do lurk, so I thought I'd give my two cents.  

    Japan is the only country I've ever been to where I couldn't find people who spoke English really anywhere.  I agree business men in suits are the best bet.  I do speak a small amount of Japanese, but nothing crazy.  

    The language barrier is real, so it is a difficult country to travel through if you are not on a tour.  However, it's an extremely efficient country.  Trains run on time to the second, for example.  So while you may not be able to read the sign on the train to be sure you are on the correct one, you can time it.  The train that leaves and boards at the correct time, is the correct train.  When you check into a hotel, get a business card.  When you take a taxi, you can give them the card so they will know where to take you.

    It's also a very honest and safe society.  You aren't going to get cheated because you don't speak the language.  If you aren't sure how much to pay for something (taxis mostly because there won't be numerical amounts necessarily), you can hold out money and they will take the honest amount.  I haven't been in many years, so I'm sure there are more taxis with credit cards and more signs with Roman numerals, so this may not be as difficult as it was.

    You shouldn't have any issue with theft.  Japan has one of the lowest crime rates in the world.

    In restaurants, you can bring them to the window to show them what you would like.  I got some food that I honestly had idea what it was, but it was tasty and it was what I had seen in the window.  When all else fails for drinks, beer is beer in Japanese, coke is coke, and there's always sake!  

    It's an extremely expensive country.  Be prepared!  
  • It's good to hear theft isn't an issue.  It's a huge issue in continental Europe, and Americans tend to be easy targets.  H and I actually carry special bags when we visit, because we both tend to get distracted by the parks, beautiful churches, etc.

    If the language barrier is really that difficult, you might be better off with a tour.  I've personally never been on one because I enjoy the planning, and H and I like to have flexibility to go where we want and spend however much time in a place that we want.  I'm also not crazy about spending my trip/vacation with a bunch of strangers.  But a country with a strong language barrier can present its own challenges, and you'll need to do significantly more prep work if you want to go it alone.

    To be 100% honest, in terms of planning your first solo trip outside the country, Asia is probably not where I would start.  Planning that first trip can be overwhelming.  There's a lot of work that goes into it, even down to really mundane things like what kind of credit card do you need to open, what do you do about your cell phone, or what kind of plug adapters do you need to buy.  At this point, H and I would jump on the opportunity to plan our own trip to anywhere in Asia if we could take that much time off (not an option for awhile), but we've also kind of figured out our travel style, and getting on the wrong train doesn't make us nervous or stressed out anymore.  Been there, done that, and it turned out to be an interesting detour.

    If it's Japan or bust for your H, the guided tour probably makes sense. 
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  • I was not a very experienced traveler when I visited Japan but still had a great time and wouldn't change a thing about my trip. You have lots of time to prepare, and I don't think it's so confusing and overwhelming that you absolutely won't find your way. Simple day tours are fun and interesting and I highly recommend doing one or two, but I don't think you need to do one the whole trip. Like I said, I found the subways very easy to navigate, especially in Osaka. I have no doubt you will have a wonderful time if you do your research and go with the flow. I had a running list of things I was interested in seeing and doing, but a lot of my time there was spent wandering and stopping at the various castles, towers, shops, and attractions along the way. Don't pre-schedule your trip down to the second - I'm so glad I didn't! Take your time doing your research, enjoy immersing yourself in the culture, and you will be fine. You'll also have lots of funny and interesting stories when you get back.
  • Another vote for if you are not familiar with the language, especially reading, to consider booking yourself on a tour because the guides can help you nagivate things.Sometimes when traveling you will spend just as much on a tour as you would if you do things yourself. If you figure out how much time you will invest researching locations, hotels, getting around, etc, it can be expensive, even if just time wise. My parents are going to California this summer on a tour and the money they are spending, they are actually getting to stay in nice hotels then they would normally get to because they are getting a group rate from the tour and they are looking forward to the idea of letting someone else do all the driving so they can both enjoy the views and not have to deal with figuring out traffic or parking.

    I would start off going to a travel agency to get information on if you need to get any VISA's or other paperwork you'll need to do and just to give you an idea of pricing some recommended tours. Even if you don't go on a tour, it will give you an idea of pricing to expect.

  • I have always wanted to go to Japan!  It is in my top 5, but not H's, so it may need to wait a while.

    I am a big lover of sushi.  If you have Netflix, I recommend watching the documentary "Giro Dreams of Sushi" to be mesmerized by someone completely consumed with his craft.  Someday, when I make it Japan, I would like to eat at his restaurant in Tokyo.  It is a few hundred dollars a plate, but if I'm already going to Japan that's a drop in the bucket.  While in Tokyo I'd also like to see the Tsakiji Fish Market-even though some of the things for sale there (i.e. dolphin) will make me pretty sad inside, it seems like such an interesting place.  

    If your H is into anime and manga I bet he'll have a laundry list of related places he wants to visit.  Keep us posted as you plan and research!  It seems like such a fascinating country.  I once heard Anthony Bourdain say in an interview that it's his favorite place to visit in the world, and that's really saying something from him.  
  • I have always wanted to go to Japan!  It is in my top 5, but not H's, so it may need to wait a while.


    I am a big lover of sushi.  If you have Netflix, I recommend watching the documentary "Giro Dreams of Sushi" to be mesmerized by someone completely consumed with his craft.  Someday, when I make it Japan, I would like to eat at his restaurant in Tokyo.  It is a few hundred dollars a plate, but if I'm already going to Japan that's a drop in the bucket.  While in Tokyo I'd also like to see the Tsakiji Fish Market-even though some of the things for sale there (i.e. dolphin) will make me pretty sad inside, it seems like such an interesting place.  

    If your H is into anime and manga I bet he'll have a laundry list of related places he wants to visit.  Keep us posted as you plan and research!  It seems like such a fascinating country.  I once heard Anthony Bourdain say in an interview that it's his favorite place to visit in the world, and that's really saying something from him.  
    +1.  H says we can't go to Japan until we can fit that meal into the budget :)
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  • My H also wants to go to Japan...it's on our list after Italy. 

    I haven't been, so I have no specific tips.  Lots of great travel tips above, I'll reiterate some. 


    Get your passports well in advance, they're valid for a long time, so much better to just get them taken care of (it'll probably cost you a few hundred dollars. 

    Definitely get trip insurance. I had a friend who basically ended up with a free week in Ireland when that volcano in iceland exploded.  if she hadn't had trip insurance she would have been out thousands of dollars for last minute flight changes and hotel stays. you never know what might happen, and it would be way better to be out a few hundred dollars for insurance you don't use than out thousands because you didn't have insurance. 

    On this issue of pickpocketing, sounds like not a huge issue for Japan, but when I travel in europe I do take extra steps to try not to look like an american tourist while I'm there to avoid becoming a target (no sneakers, no baseball caps). that's in addition to taking extra steps to keep money and valuables secured. granted last time I was in Europe there were a lot of anti-american protests going on so there were a few other reasons it would be much better for everyone to just assume we were canadian. 
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  • Although I personally have not been, in a previous job had a number of coworkers who each went to Yokosuka a few times.  They all said it was more boring than they expected it to be because it was just like any other big city.  But, they were all fairly young guys (mid 20s), so perhaps take that with a grain of salt.

    They also complained the hotel rooms are really small.  On that issue, I had to call a Japanese hotel once because one of the employees was trying to hoodwink me.  He claimed there were no rooms anywhere available for the per diem rate.  So I called the hotel and was SUPER worried no one would speak English.

    The person who answered the phone spoke English fluently, in fact he hardly had an accent.  So maybe hotel personnel are more likely to speak English?  Or maybe there are more English speakers in Yokosuka as opposed to other Japanese cities because there is a big US Navy base there.

    At any rate, when I asked about the per diem issue, the hotel clerk told me there were plenty of per diem rate rooms available, but my coworker had reserved a larger, upgraded room.  Ah ha!  Caught him!

    So I call the employee back and the real truth comes out.  "But the per diem rooms are too small, their cramped, their uncomfortable, blah, blah."  Tough cookies.  He wants the better room, he has to pay the difference...which wasn't even a $20/night difference.  And apparently they weren't such uncomfortable rooms that he chose that option...and this was hardly a guy barely scraping by.

    Long story short...to an extent, big cities are big cities all over the world.  Perhaps hotel clerks are more fluent in English.  Small hotel rooms.

  • Speaking of per diem... and just a good general travel tip for everyone.  Check out U.S. government per diem rates for whatever area you are interested in going to...whether domestic or international.  They list both hotel per diem amounts as well as food per diem amounts.

    I have dealt with per diems and expense reports A LOT over my career.  And, believe it or not, those government per diem rates are very accurate.  You can almost always find a decent, mid-priced hotel in a safe area for the same or under the listed per diem amount for that city/county/country.

    The food per diem amount listed is, if anything, generous.  But it will still give you the absolute max you will need to budget for eating 3 meals out..as long as you aren't going to 4-star and $100s/plate sushi restaurants ;).  Just keep in mind the food per diem is calculated for just one person.

  • I usually just lurk, but have lived in Japan for over a decade.  Feel free to message me any questions you may have!
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