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Your thoughts?

I got my brother a job with my boss' boyfriend cleaning out and maintaining foreclosed houses. It's gone on, he works 7 days a week sun up to sun down, unless it rains to much on days they need to mow. Luckily he is able to bring my niece with him most of the time which she loves. My boss and her boyfriend went to a family reunion on Sat and Sun. He asked brother to clean the backyard of a house on Saturday. That was the only thing they had for the weekend and Bro's Ex finally conceded to let him see her daughter on Sat so he chose to just do the house on Sun and he got stuck because the ground is super soft I had to go pull him out and he told his boss that maybe they should wait for dryer weather on that house. Well now this morning my boss came in griping at me that he shouldn't have been doing the house on Sun it was supposed to be on Sat and then he didn't even finish yet and boyfriend should just fire him. I find it really crappy of her considering she RARELY comes in on time and frequently leaves early and her long lunches to do errands. I tried explaining to her that given he hasn't seen that daughter in two years and the house was a really bad project right now anyways because of how soft the ground is. But her retort is that if your boss says you have to work on a certain day then it doesn't matter what else you have going on you have to work on that day. If she were perfectly punctual it wouldn't bother me so much but all I can think right now is what a hypocritical b*tch. I think he should find something else, but when does he have the time to do it? He leaves the house at 5-6 am every morning 7 days a week and comes home around 7-8 in the evening. What are your thoughts?
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Re: Your thoughts?

  • als1982als1982 member
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    Did your brother call them to ask about working Sunday instead or Saturday? If not, and he just did it without discussing it with them, then she is absolutely right. And frankly, her personal behavior is completely irrelevant to the situation.

    Situations like this are one of many reasons I don't mix personal and business.
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  • My thought is that I'd probably do everything possible to not have an ongoing dialogue about your brother and his employer with your employer. It's just not healthy and doesn't seem like it could bring anything positive.



    On the other side, from what you said, "asked brother to clean the backyard of a house on Saturday." it seems like your brother's employer gave him a Saturday assignment which brother chose to do on Sunday and then was unable to complete. Yeah, the rest of the situation sucks, but it kind of seems like this is all under the table paid in cash work, so you are completely at the whim of your employer and have to keep him happy to keep the job. So you do what you gotta do.



    Yeah, it does seem like your boss is a bit of a hypocritical person who loves an opportunity to gripe. But if I've learned anything in life, it's that sh*t rolls downhill and being right doesn't mean you are on the winning side. I hope your bro is able to keep the job and his relationship with other daughter is able to grow. 
  • I don't know, part of me understands it, but part of me doesn't. She is always the first one to need concessions from everyone else, like the other day she took off because of her freakin period. He hasn't done anything else wrong, he works day in and day out for this guy and her first response is fire him. He is 1099 contractor.
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  • I would avoid getting involved in this like the plague, and even tell her as much (i.e. "I don't feel comfortable getting involved.")

    I definitely sympathize with WHY your brother wanted to work Sunday instead, but he does need to communicate with his boss about stuff like that and it's risky to request a day off of a job, even for good reason, right after starting.  A few years ago MIL decided to get married right when I was starting a new job, and I had to decline as hard as it was.  
  • He started working for this guy in June of last year, it was cash under the table then for 2015 he held his pay for a bout a month and now pays him when he gets paid for the jobs and will be 1099ing him.
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  • noffgurl said:

    He started working for this guy in June of last year, it was cash under the table then for 2015 he held his pay for a bout a month and now pays him when he gets paid for the jobs and will be 1099ing him.

    Gotcha, I misunderstood. Requesting to switch days shouldn't have been a big issue then, but I'd still try not to get dragged in. Private annoyance is very understandable though!
  • smerkasmerka member
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    If you really want to go out in a blaze of glory, call tye IRS on him because you can't dictate the schedule to a 1099 employee. You can say I need X, Y, and Z done by Monday, but you can't tell him how or when to do the job. The boss' behavior has absolutely no impact on any of this. And you should stay out of it.
  • Saw on the monday post you got fired?? Is it related to this issue?
  • Related to the brother issue. She is claiming personality differences and now all of a sudden people have had several complaints about me.
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  • I'm not one to sue someone quickly, but I do think you need to contact a lawyer or someone that can look into this for you because you may have a wrongful termination suit on your hands.
  • I'm sorry to hear.  No good deed goes unpunished.  I hope that a new opportunity will open up to you quickly.  

    I don't know much about labor laws, but I agree with PP that this whole thing does sound fishy.  Personality differences is not a reason to fire someone who is fulfilling the requirements of their job description, and if these complaints were legitimate they should have been brought to your attention in a performance review setting.  I know at least at my workplace, its written into policy that they need to provide coaching and feedback before firing someone after the probationary period.  
  • That sucks, you going to look for something else on top of school? 

    I live in an at-will employment state, so unless you sign a contract with your employer, you can be fired at any time without the employer having to establish just cause.
  • hoffsehoffse member
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    You're in TX right?  Pretty sure they are an at-will state (might be wrong about that though).

    I'm sorry to hear about that conflict.  That really sucks.
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  • Ya, I am in TX which is an at-will state. From what I understand with that is an employer can fire you anytime for any reason other than discrimination. I will find something else. The school has an employment center.
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