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Long time lurker needing others thoughts!

I have been lurking for about three years now. I plan on doing an intro later.

I have been working as a paid intern in my current field for the last two years as a CDPT (addiction counselor but as a trainee). I take my state exam on the 18th to become a CDP. This will come with a significant pay raise once I pass the exam, probably around $30,000 a year before taxes. I currently only make about $24,500 before taxes and union dues. They have a range of between $29,105-34,500 topping out. I commute 5 days a week and spend $108 a month on a bus pass as well as about 2-3 hours a day on a bus. As it is right now I get up at 5am to get my daughter ready to leave with my husband. He works 4/10s. Then I get ready. I get home between 6:30-7 each night. I earn 23.76 hrs of PTO per month but have to use it if I want to take any federal holidays off. I have fully employer paid health care but can't afford the spouse and dependent coverage or the copay for that matter.

In May I found a posting for a DV advocate at a local nonprofit. I have always wanted to be in the DV field. My overall career goal is to get my masters in mental health counseling so I can work with survivors of trauma. I have been to two interviews and got a call today regarding the position. I was already at work so I couldn't answer it. I have no idea what the pay is. It includes employer paid benefits for me but I was told spouse and dependent coverage can be somewhat spendy. I would earn 8 hours of vacation a month, plus personal days, and all federal holidays off. The office is located within 1 mile of our apartment. Our  morning routine would change as I would drop DH off at work at 6:30, then LO at MILS, then go home, get ready, head to work, then pick DH up at 5ish. DH works within 1/2 mile from our apartment so the commute between offices and the apartment wouldn't be very far.

My dilemma is with my upcoming certification. If I leave the field what would that do to my license to practice? What would it do to future opportunities in the field or if I needed a fall back? I'm struggling with giving it up for something that is unknown. If the new job pays enough I could keep up with my CEU's required to keep my license but I'm worried what it could say to a potential employer.

Any thoughts? Ideas? Opinions?

Sorry this was so long! If you made it this far, I greatly appreciate it! I really do plan on doing an intro soon!
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Re: Long time lurker needing others thoughts!

  • It sounds like this is an amazing opportunity with a lot of payoffs. It also seems from google like you'd be making a similar amount in this field but with a significant improvement in quality of life (i.e. not commuting, being able to see your family). If you get an offer and the salary is comparable and you think you'd enjoy or get satisfaction from the work, I'd probably accept (if I were in your shoes). This is especially because you are thinking domestic violence is a field you want to go into. And having broad experience would likely be very helpful in a master's program.

    As for what it would look like if you want to go back to the addiction field after working with domestic violence survivors, I can't imagine that working for a period in a different branch of mental health/advocacy/counseling would be seen as a negative. It seems like there are many many overlaps between the two and you might be able to bring some great experience to either field if you've worked in the other. But I don't know a ton about that certification and education field, so maybe it would be worth seeking out advice from a teacher or colleague you trust.  

    As a last note, it sounds like you are a single car family and yet your husband is using the vehicle to commute the 1/2 mile to his work each day while you commute 3 hours on busses. Could he bike/walk/scooter to his work down the block and you drop your daughter off and cut down your commute by driving? It would probably even be cheaper if you needed to pay another family to bring daughter home each day where your husband would be waiting. 
  • I am a therapist and working on my certification for my LPC.  I think the experience in the different fields help you gain a well rounded background..   Where I am working, they really value that. Often times, many presenting problems overlap.  I would take your exam and have a back-up plan just in case you didn't love it.  I am not sure of a time limit on your certification. That might be dependent on where you live.  I second PPs suggestion on taking to a teacher or a mentor about that.  

    Good luck!
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    I agree you should take your exam and figure out what it would cost to maintain your license if your new job will not cover the fees (it might - it's worth asking about).  You may be able to deduct the license maintenance fees in future years from your taxes as unreimbursed business expenses - you'll need to check and see, but it's possible.

    I sort of see a similar thing in my field.  One of the partners I work for is a licensed CPA, but he practices tax law.  He's never allowed his CPA license to expire, and every firm he has worked for has encouraged him to maintain it.  For him, it's an ultimate back-up plan (he has flat out admitted this to me), but from the firm's perspective it makes him more well-rounded.  He approaches problems a bit differently than those of us without that background, and he uses his CPA training quite a bit in his law practice.  In fact, I'm pretty sure our firm covers his CPA licensing dues and all the annual coursework he has to do for it.

    I don't know anything about your field, but this sounds like a similar thing to me.  I think an employer would view it as something that makes you more valuable to them, rather than seeing it as an escape route for you.  I have to imagine there is a lot of overlap.

    Regarding the lifestyle change, I think that will be huge for you and that's worth quite a bit even if your salary doesn't go up much.  
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  • Can you check with your state certification requirements to maintain your license (once you pass the exam)?  Do you need continuing education credits or credits and time in addiction counseling - or neither?
    If your long term plan is a masters  degree - it appears to me that your work with DV would not only prove helpful, your quality of life will improve.

  • You are a trooper for keeping a job with a 2-3 hour bus ride every day!  I agree with the other PPs, this sounds like an amazing opportunity to stop with that awful commute.  Plus you'll save that $100/month bus fare.  Although I am not in that field, I would think your (hopefully) new employer would see a CDP license as an asset...even if it is not as directly related to that type of therapy.

    I think if they offer you $30K, or close to it, that should be an easy decision.  Don't be afraid to negotiate for that number if they start lower.  You can certainly point out that you will have your CDP license soon and that is a typical salary for your skills/certification/experience.

  • Go for it and see what they have to offer, what do you have to lose by trying. If you don't like the offer, you don't have to take it. But it sounds like it would make your life easier & you would get to spend a lot more time with your family because you wouldn't have to spend as much time commuting. Even if it would be the same income as your current position, the idea of being able to spend more time with your family is priceless. Plus the money you save each month on commuting might be more then enough to pay for the CE credits.
  • Thank you everyone for all of your input and encouragement! I would have to renew my license every year and keep up on CEU's every two years. I plan on keeping my CDP no matter which way I go. I will have to check on the possibility of reimbursement. The more I think about it the more I long to have more time with my family and spend less time on the bus every day.

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  • My employer covers my license renewal and majority of my CEUs. I'm in a similar field. The did not cover my state license exam, fingerprinting, etc so I had to cover all of that on my own - one time cost of approximately $300.
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  • Also I strongly feel that the added experience only makes you more rounded and more desirable. Experience in various related fields is always a bonus!
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  • So glad to hear it!  What a huge increase in salary, doubled with no more commute.  Major win-win.
  • Congratulations!
  • Thanks guys! I'm super stoked!
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