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Well that didn't go as planned-VENT

So H and I decided several months ago to do a refinance of our mortgage with a construction rider. We had several "must do" projects around the house (windows needing replacing, and making space to expand our family, and had been considering risks and benefits of going solar for several years). The refinance would put us at an interest rate 0.7% lower than what we secured 3 years ago (generally not enough to refinance, but given we didn't have the necessary cash on hand for repairs to the windows it was good). 

We've had so many problems with the bank, first they pushed us to sign the contract with the solar company after they sent us a GFE for the loan they said we were approved for. The day after we signed the contract and paid the deposit they notified us that we weren't actually qualified for that loan and upped our interest rate 0.5% from the original. 

We then got a new GFE in the mail, which indicated we'd need to bring $3000 to closing (After our loan officer said we'd need about $800). So I contacted the loan officer, asked her if this was, in fact, true. She quickly contacted me and said No! we would actually be getting about $450 back at closing, because we'd built closing costs into the loan and we were coming in under what we'd estimated. So at closing today, we actually owed almost $2000 in closing costs. We got the loan officer on the phone, she said her records indicated we'd be getting money back, so we then called the closing department that said that the numbers the laywer had on the HUD were right and we owed $2000. WHAT?! 

so here we are now, sitting with the lawyer, trying to decide if we're actually going to go through with closing or if we're going to walk and go shopping with other banks. The reality is that we're under contract with the Solar Company, they're expecting payment of $9,000 to order materials in the next week. and the other parts of our project are not really optional, or at least in the case of the windows we'd be talking about a more expensive project if we leave the windows and let moisture build-up continue to be an issue. We could have probably explained a delay to the solar company and walked away to go to another bank, but having looked at other banks after our initial issue, interest rates were the same as were expected closing costs, not to mention we'd still be responsible for about $1200 of fees for the title search, appraisal, and lawyer. 

So we closed on the loan, the "saving grace" was that they set the final pay-out value on the loan before our July mortgage payment was due, so most the $2000 was in our account. We're only responsible for paying interest on the construction portion of the loan ($40,000) and property taxes until construction is complete (the bank gives us 6 months to complete construction, so our tentative "first payment" date is in January. we'll be able to replenish savings (and plan to pay more than just the interest).  I really just want a glass of wine...but I think a pint of Ben and Jerry's will just have to do. 

I will be filing some kind of complaint with the bank because the loan officer we used just seems inept...but for today I just needed a vent and some ice cream :) 

Me: 28 H: 30
Married 07/14/2012
TTC #1 January 2015
BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015

Re: Well that didn't go as planned-VENT

  • Phew, I'm just glad you were still able to close!  I know the roller coaster ride this has been for you all.  Sorry to hear about the screw up on the closing costs.  Such a blow to morale to be expecting a bit of money back only to be whamo'ed with having to bring a chunk of change to the closing table.

    (Raising up my wine glass and a spoon of ice cream to you!)

  • Ugh, what a bunch of crap! Why can these people not get their shit together. I think this happens way too often (happened to me when I closed on my house too). File a complaint with the bank for sure, and enjoy the Ben and jerrys. You deserve it.
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  • I don't understand how something like this happens, let alone so frequently.  Banks should have to be responsible for the numbers they provide to clients.  A $2,000 difference is insurmountable to a lot of people.
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  • UGH. I would be so mad, though it does sound like going ahead and closing was the practical choice. You enjoy that ice cream!
  • hoffsehoffse member
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    Our closing costs were about double than we were told by our loan officer once we saw the HUD-1.  In our case, he had told us we only needed a 3-month escrow for taxes, but the bank actually required 1-year.  Obviously we paid it and it is what it is, but I was really pissed about it... especially because I kept asking to see the HUD-1 to make sure we had everything squared away, and they did not send it to us until the afternoon right before the closing.  We had to wire in the money the day before, and we just barely made the deadline because they were so slow to turn the HUD-1 around to us.

    Sorry this happened, and I would definitely file a complaint with the loan officer.  Hopefully you'll be in better spirits after your pint of B&J and the construction begins!

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  • hoffse said:
    Our closing costs were about double than we were told by our loan officer once we saw the HUD-1.  In our case, he had told us we only needed a 3-month escrow for taxes, but the bank actually required 1-year.  Obviously we paid it and it is what it is, but I was really pissed about it... especially because I kept asking to see the HUD-1 to make sure we had everything squared away, and they did not send it to us until the afternoon right before the closing.  We had to wire in the money the day before, and we just barely made the deadline because they were so slow to turn the HUD-1 around to us.

    Sorry this happened, and I would definitely file a complaint with the loan officer.  Hopefully you'll be in better spirits after your pint of B&J and the construction begins!

    Yes, it was the amount they were requiring us to have in our escrow account for taxes that was the main reason for the descrepancy, I think what happened is that the loan officer didn't account for the fact that our escrow account would be hit hard when our July tax bill was due. 

    Anyways, It's over now. I'm going to try to lower my blood pressure for the evening, we have class with the dogs (as long as thunderstorms stay away), and then we'll be doing taco tuesday and I'll be sitting down with a pint of B&J (Phish Phood), my current netflix binge, and my knitting. We'll work on the complaint to go to the bank later, and then the "fun" part of the project can start and I can AW some construction progress here. 
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
  • guess it's just time to call it a day. dog class got canceled for weather and the store is out of phish Phood.
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
  • Oh that's just crappy!  I'm sorry.  Glad you can move forward and I agree with filing a complaint with the bank.
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  • bcarbbcarb member
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    Of course the store was out of your ice cream--when it rains it pours! But seriously--I am glad you guys will be able to start your construction soon! Sorry you had to deal with an idiot loan officer, sometimes I wonder how people still have jobs!?
  • bcarbbcarb member
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    dont blame you-- I get really intense cravings and they MUST be satisfied or I get irrationally upset! p.s congrats on baby girl!
  • bcarb said:
    dont blame you-- I get really intense cravings and they MUST be satisfied or I get irrationally upset! p.s congrats on baby girl!
    Thanks! I was so upset already by the time h called to say there was no phish phood, I'm pretty sure H was scared to come home without it. I should have been expecting things to not go well at closing before we even got there, since nothing else had gone right for me all day. I had even decided to go to dunkin donuts for an iced (half-caff) coffee before the closing (I rearely get coffee out, but it was 90 degrees out and work had been awful) and the dunkin donuts person couldn't even get my order right. literally nothing that happened yesterday went as planned. 

    A nights sleep and we're moving on. I've drafted a complaint to submit to the CFPB, and we're getting our contractor ducks lined up so work can hopefully start early next week!
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
  • That is great news!  I am so glad (and surprised) the bank was able to and willing to make things right.
  • That is great news!  I am so glad (and surprised) the bank was able to and willing to make things right.
    I guess that is one of the reasons we did choose a small local bank. 
    Me: 28 H: 30
    Married 07/14/2012
    TTC #1 January 2015
    BFP! 3/27/15 Baby Girl!! EDD:12/7/2015
  • bcarb said:
    Of course the store was out of your ice cream--when it rains it pours! But seriously--I am glad you guys will be able to start your construction soon! Sorry you had to deal with an idiot loan officer, sometimes I wonder how people still have jobs!?
    H actually went and drove to 5 different places in search of my ice cream and found it!...I cried when he got home, thank you pregnancy hormones. 
    This made me LOL.  Reminds me that one time we were at Olive Garden when I was in my last couple months of pregnancy - I was starving of course.  When they brought the food out the waitress spilled mine all over the floor.  I instantly started crying about it and my meal was free even dessert as a result.  Those pregnancy hormones are no joke.  
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