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Sad about not being in wedding party

I have a very close friend I have known for the past 10 years, who was in my wedding party, and is getting married. I am extremely happy for both of them, in fact, my husband and I introduced the two of them three years ago. We have talked about her plans for her wedding, but she mentioned to me the other day, that they may not even have a full ceremony and just invite everyone to a reception. She also claimed she is not having a bridal party, but the groom mentioned another guy, was going to be the best man. I see what is going on here, they do not want me or my husband to be in their wedding party or at their ceremony, and we honestly have no idea why we would be excluded. Also, she has no siblings or close cousins. We still do thing together on a regular basis and I told her I will help her anyway I can. Even not being in the wedding party I can take, but not being invited to the ceremony, when other friends of theirs will be there.  I understand it's their wedding and their choice but I am deeply crushed by being excluded. Should I say something to them? I'm not one to hold back my feelings and if I don't say anything I think I will become resentful. It's just a bad situation all around.

Re: Sad about not being in wedding party

  • First off, let the whole wedding party thing go.  They are having either a very small wedding party or none at all.  Either one of those options are fine.  The fact that they didn't ask either you or your husband to be in their wedding party, while disappointing, should not be taken as a slight.  For example, my sister...and we are the only two siblings and have a good relationship...did not ask me to be in her wedding party.  And that was fine and her choice.

    However, you got me on possibly not being invited to the ceremony.  Normally, it would be super rude to ask someone why you are not invited to an event they are having...but then, it's weird and at least a bit rude they are having a different guest list for their ceremony and reception.

    I know when I used to frequent The Knot, this type of set up was only grudgingly "etiquette acceptable" if the guests for the ceremony were a very small percentage of the reception guest list...like just parents and bridal party type of thing.

    But if they are inviting other friends to the ceremony, but not you and your H, unfortunately, they may just not feel as close to the two of you as you all do to them. 

    Basically, your choices are to say nothing...but feel hurt and wronged.  Or say something...which will probably just lead to an awkward conversation and you will still feel hurt and wronged, but maybe at least have an explanation.

    If it were me, I have to admit that although my head would tell me to say nothing and just swallow my feelings...I might not be able to help myself to say something, just in the hope that I could get it out in the open and understand their decision.

  • I'm with say something, just so I could get it out in the open.
  • GilliCGilliC member
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    edited September 2015
    emily1004 said:
    I have a very close friend I have known for the past 10 years, who was in my wedding party, and is getting married. I am extremely happy for both of them, in fact, my husband and I introduced the two of them three years ago. We have talked about her plans for her wedding, but she mentioned to me the other day, that they may not even have a full ceremony and just invite everyone to a reception. She also claimed she is not having a bridal party, but the groom mentioned another guy, was going to be the best man. I see what is going on here, they do not want me or my husband to be in their wedding party or at their ceremony, and we honestly have no idea why we would be excluded. Also, she has no siblings or close cousins. We still do thing together on a regular basis and I told her I will help her anyway I can. Even not being in the wedding party I can take, but not being invited to the ceremony, when other friends of theirs will be there.  I understand it's their wedding and their choice but I am deeply crushed by being excluded. Should I say something to them? I'm not one to hold back my feelings and if I don't say anything I think I will become resentful. It's just a bad situation all around.

    She said that "they may not even have a full ceremony and just invite everyone to a reception."

    Everyone. So the groom has one friend who's maybe going to be best man. Do you live in a state that requires witnesses? Does the groom have a close family relationship? Do you have any idea what their plans actually are? From what you've said, they're not inviting anyone, except maybe this one friend of the groom, and you seem to be interpreting it as a personal slight.

    I would do three things if I were you:

    1. Let it go. It's their wedding, and it's their relationship. You may be best friends since birth, but they're getting married, and this is an event about the two of them. Not about the two of you. Bridal parties are great and all, but at the end of the day, it's about two people getting married. Not two people choosing who their favorite friends and relatives are and who's "worthy" of being in the bridal party or attending the ceremony. Personally, I have a lot of respect for people who choose very small private ceremonies with just a few people, because the marriage ceremony itself is about committing to each other - not about putting on a great show.

    2. Once you've let it go and can discuss it calmly and rationally, ask her what her plans are for the ceremony. Tell her that you're interested in her plans (if you really are). It's okay to tell her that you're disappointed to miss it, but do not make her feel guilty about that. It's their choice, and since you've gotten married, I assume you know how awful it is when people put pressure on you to do things the way they want.

    3. Go to the reception, have fun, and wish them both the best.
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  • I have a very close friend I have known for the past 10 years, who was in my wedding party, and is getting married. I am extremely happy for both of them, in fact, my husband and I introduced the two of them three years ago. We have talked about her plans for her wedding, but she mentioned to me the other day, that they may not even have a full ceremony and just invite everyone to a reception. She also claimed she is not having a bridal party, but the groom mentioned another guy, was going to be the best man. I see what is going on here, they do not want me or my husband to be in their wedding party or at their ceremony, and we honestly have no idea why we would be excluded. Also, she has no siblings or close cousins. We still do thing together on a regular basis and I told her I will help her anyway I can. Even not being in the wedding party I can take, but not being invited to the ceremony, when other friends of theirs will be there.  I understand it's their wedding and their choice but I am deeply crushed by being excluded. Should I say something to them? I'm not one to hold back my feelings and if I don't say anything I think I will become resentful. It's just a bad situation all around.

    I am guessing this is a very private ceremony and  usually for an event like that, a select group is invited. To me, it would be immediate family and maybe 1 or 2 close friends. 

    I don't know if you should say anything.

    I am guessing they are having the mandatory 2 witnesses -- they may not even be "bridal party" members per se --- just 2 people who are there to sign the marriage license.

    Gi has a good suggestion: ask her what her ceremony plans are and that you are disappointed you will miss it.

    Wishing you luck --- hope you can transcend this. It's tough, it's sucky and it's hurt feelings. I do not blame you for feeling the way you do.  

     

  • GilliC said:

    2. Once you've let it go and can discuss it calmly and rationally, ask her what her plans are for the ceremony. Tell her that you're interested in her plans (if you really are). It's okay to tell her that you're disappointed to miss it, but do not make her feel guilty about that. It's their choice, and since you've gotten married, I assume you know how awful it is when people put pressure on you to do things the way they want.


    THIS! Unfortunately you don't have a choice and you can't make them feel bad. There are so many reasons they might be avoiding a big ceremony and/or wedding party. Does she have siblings or cousins or SIL's she doesn't want in a wedding party? Honestly I know it hurts from a friendship standpoint, but isn't it nice to not have to spend money on a dress and hair and all that other stuff? 

    As PP's have said calmly find out what the details are and go with what they decide. They've invited you to the reception so it's not like you're totally out. It sounds like this couple should elope and completely forget any public wedding details, but they're trying to compromise for family and friends sake. Give them credit that this is a big compromise since receptions are where all the money and time goes. It sounds like you've gone out of your way to offer your help, if they're all set then relax. Maybe you could help plan a small shower or some sort of celebration as this is an exciting time for your friend.
  • Thank you, and you all are right. I got a ton of grief over things I planned at our wedding. They are our friends and I would never want to cause them unhappiness, especially during a time that is suppose to be one of he happiest times of their life. I'm just really thrown. The two people they chose to "stand up for them" are relatively new friends. They didn't even know either one of them when they were single. My friend has also claimed she can't stand the girl's boyfriend, so I don't get why he gets to be at the ceremony and we don't. She's a nice girl but she blows my friend off all the time. Also, in our families we a used to, "if you don't go to the ceremony, you don't get to go to the party". So this is all very foreign to me. I know it's their wedding, their choice...just venting. 

    I won't say anything, except I will be sad, not to get to witness the ceremony and leave it at that.

  • I agree that not getting invited to a ceremony but getting invited to a reception no matter how you do it (elope, private ceremony etc.) is rude. The whole point is the wedding, if you don't have a public ceremony don't expect people to go to a reception just to give you gifts. With that being said,  it's the couple's choice who they have at the wedding or in their wedding party. I'm not sure if there's a specific etiquette to selecting a wedding party, but unfortunately you can't choose who they put in their wedding party. While I do see your point about lifelong friendships I think wedding parties that know and love the couple make sense. You do change over time when you're with a spouse, some people might want a mutual friend from their relationship to support their wedding. Perhaps the girl who will be at the wedding asked to have her boyfriend there and the bride decided not to pick that battle. Perhaps the husband to be really wants this other man at his wedding, there's a lot of reasons. I do feel bad for this bride if she's stuck with someone she doesn't like, but again she's picking her battles.You know from your own wedding that everyone has "just one thing" they want you to do for YOUR wedding, eventually you just give in because it's exhausting to please everyone. The other issue is that this bride can't dis-invite the BM after asking her to be in the wedding if she says no your boyfriend can't come to the ceremony so she might have been stuck.

    This same situation happened to a friend of mine, she had a best friend since middle school who wasn't in her wedding party. She selected a different BM who was a more recent friend and her sister to be in her wedding instead. While I don't know the reason nor do I need to care, I think a lot of  it was that this new friend was mutual to the relationship between the husband and wife. I had a college roommate who's like a sister to me that was a big part of my single life that I didn't have in my wedding because at the time we got married she hadn't met my husband (she lives in a different state). Having her in my wedding didn't make sense to have someone support my wedding who didn't know the man I was marrying, plus my husband felt weird meeting a wedding party member at our shower or rehearsal dinner.  

    Unfortunately as PP"s have said I think all you can do is relax. You're in a tough spot, you can't skip out on the reception because you're hurt, that's also rude. Just move on and help this friend if you can.

  • I agree that not getting invited to a ceremony but getting invited to a reception no matter how you do it (elope, private ceremony etc.) is rude. The whole point is the wedding, if you don't have a public ceremony don't expect people to go to a reception just to give you gifts. With that being said,  it's the couple's choice who they have at the wedding or in their wedding party. I'm not sure if there's a specific etiquette to selecting a wedding party, but unfortunately you can't choose who they put in their wedding party. While I do see your point about lifelong friendships I think wedding parties that know and love the couple make sense. You do change over time when you're with a spouse, some people might want a mutual friend from their relationship to support their wedding. Perhaps the girl who will be at the wedding asked to have her boyfriend there and the bride decided not to pick that battle. Perhaps the husband to be really wants this other man at his wedding, there's a lot of reasons. I do feel bad for this bride if she's stuck with someone she doesn't like, but again she's picking her battles.You know from your own wedding that everyone has "just one thing" they want you to do for YOUR wedding, eventually you just give in because it's exhausting to please everyone. The other issue is that this bride can't dis-invite the BM after asking her to be in the wedding if she says no your boyfriend can't come to the ceremony so she might have been stuck.

    This same situation happened to a friend of mine, she had a best friend since middle school who wasn't in her wedding party. She selected a different BM who was a more recent friend and her sister to be in her wedding instead. While I don't know the reason nor do I need to care, I think a lot of  it was that this new friend was mutual to the relationship between the husband and wife. I had a college roommate who's like a sister to me that was a big part of my single life that I didn't have in my wedding because at the time we got married she hadn't met my husband (she lives in a different state). Having her in my wedding didn't make sense to have someone support my wedding who didn't know the man I was marrying, plus my husband felt weird meeting a wedding party member at our shower or rehearsal dinner.  

    Unfortunately as PP"s have said I think all you can do is relax. You're in a tough spot, you can't skip out on the reception because you're hurt, that's also rude. Just move on and help this friend if you can.

    There is some debate about on this subject on TK, with the general consensus being that it technically isn't rude if it is truly a very small portion of the guest list invited to the ceremony.

    But I'm with you @dutchgirl76.  I would heavily side-eye a friend/relative who invited me to the reception, but not the ceremony.  And, unless they were an especially good/close friend or family member, I would decline an invitation like that.  It's just really weird.  I mean, the whole point of a wedding is the ceremony!  So, if most guests aren't invited to the most important part, why even have a bigger reception?

    OP, I think you are handling the situation perfectly.  I'm sorry you're disappointed and don't blame you one bit.  Sometimes weddings bring out the crazies in people and/or highlight a character flaw.  But it sounds like this person is a good friend.  She has been a good friend before the wedding and she will (probably) still be a good friend after the wedding.  I would focus on that and it sounds like you are.

  • Wait for the official invite, sounds like there are a lot of maybe's going on & until things are finalized, booked & invites sent, things can change. Maybe they plan to just to to the court house & do a ceremony there and then have a party for family & friends afterwards. I know the county near me, limits how many people can come to the courthouse to witness the ceremony due to space.

    In regards to who they picked to stand up for them, maybe he gets along better with that guy then he does your husband and she felt that if FI picked that guy, she had to pick his GF to stand up for her.

  • emily1004emily1004 member
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    edited September 2015
    Erikan73 said:

    In regards to who they picked to stand up for them, maybe he gets along better with that guy then he does your husband and she felt that if FI picked that guy, she had to pick his GF to stand up for her.

     
    To clarify, the maid of honor's boyfriend and the best man are two different people. The boyfriend gets to be at the ceremony because his girlfriend is going. He has no role in their ceremony, other than being the MOH's boyfriend. Both the bride and groom do not like the MOH's boyfriend very much. This is why I'm thrown.

    Edit- Not to mention if it wasn't for me and my husband, they wouldn't be together. But, I just have to bite my tongue. 
  • emily1004 said:
    Erikan73 said:

    In regards to who they picked to stand up for them, maybe he gets along better with that guy then he does your husband and she felt that if FI picked that guy, she had to pick his GF to stand up for her.

     
    To clarify, the maid of honor's boyfriend and the best man are two different people. The boyfriend gets to be at the ceremony because his girlfriend is going. He has no role in their ceremony, other than being the MOH's boyfriend. Both the bride and groom do not like the MOH's boyfriend very much. This is why I'm thrown.

    Edit- Not to mention if it wasn't for me and my husband, they wouldn't be together. But, I just have to bite my tongue. 
    What is her relationship with the MOH?

    Because honestly, I would consider it extreeeeeeeemely rude to ban the boyfriend from the ceremony if his SO is going to be in it.

    ...Unless they have a firm no-plus-one policy in place and MOH hasn't been dating him very long. But if opinions have been formed, it sounds like they've been together for at least a few months.
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  • As for the ceremony v. reception invitation question, I've always heard that it's acceptable to have a small ceremony and large reception, but it is considered rude to have a large ceremony and a small reception (since it's usually interpreted as "We want you at our wedding, but we don't want to pay for your food/drinks at the reception.")

    I've known a lot of people who've had a small ceremony and larger reception. For example, my cousin's parents used to own a large company, so a lot of business associates were invited to their daughter's wedding reception. She had a small mostly-family ceremony, because she wanted the ceremony to be in her hometown church, which wasn't big enough to fit hundreds of people. I also know a lot of people who've gotten married overseas for various reasons, and a lot of people couldn't afford to travel to the wedding, so the couple hosted a US reception later on.

    Also, people on The Knot get their knickers in a twist over some things that wouldn't cause most people to blink an eye. 
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  • If either the MOH or Best Man is married or in a serious relationship, they can't very well ask them not to bring their Siginficant others to the ceremony. Only way that would possibly fly not to invite significant others to the cermeony is say if the location of ceremony only allows for a total of say 8 people due to space and they each want their parents, so once you add two sets of parents, bride & groom & then MOH & BM, you have max capacity count.

    Either way, does it suck that you weren't asked to be in the wedding party and it doesn't look like you are invited to the ceremony, yes it does. You have a few choices, suck it up & be happy for them & attend the reception, or decline invite to reception and just move one with friendship,or end friendship with them.

  • I don't necessarily get my panties in a bunch over a reception only invitation, but like other poster's on here there used to be a stronger etiquette that said you had a ceremony AND reception for guests or nothing at all. I can see a courthouse limiting the number of people you can have at your wedding due to space. I have nothing against eloping, in fact I highly encourage it with the way that weddings are getting so out of control these days. I just get frustrated that the couples don't want to pay for the dinner (and yes I can see why they do that) so they "elope" yet still expect a big party for gifts later on. I'm not saying all couples  have that intention, but that's how it comes across to us folks raised old school. I've been invited to those kinds of weddings as we have friends who were married on an island, even my SIL had her 3rd wedding in Vegas, but she skipped the reception since she eloped. I think it's important to read the context in why people are frustrated to be invited to one thing and not the other unless there's a good reason like a seating limit.


  • GilliC said:
    As for the ceremony v. reception invitation question, I've always heard that it's acceptable to have a small ceremony and large reception, but it is considered rude to have a large ceremony and a small reception (since it's usually interpreted as "We want you at our wedding, but we don't want to pay for your food/drinks at the reception.")

    I've known a lot of people who've had a small ceremony and larger reception. For example, my cousin's parents used to own a large company, so a lot of business associates were invited to their daughter's wedding reception. She had a small mostly-family ceremony, because she wanted the ceremony to be in her hometown church, which wasn't big enough to fit hundreds of people. I also know a lot of people who've gotten married overseas for various reasons, and a lot of people couldn't afford to travel to the wedding, so the couple hosted a US reception later on.

    Also, people on The Knot get their knickers in a twist over some things that wouldn't cause most people to blink an eye. 

    LMAO at bolded (and in agreement).  Though, with that said, under most circumstances I think it is at least mildly rude to guests to invite them to the reception, but not the ceremony.  It starts getting into "tiered" territory.  And it can hurt people's feelings.  Look at the OP!

    For example, your cousin and her H could have chosen to have a small wedding and reception.  I doubt any of the hundreds of parent business associates would have side-eyed this.  Or they could have chosen to have the large reception and had the ceremony at the reception site.  I get the attraction to have her ceremony in her hometown church, but then they are purposely choosing to not allow most of their guests to see the most important part of the day.  While I don't think this particular example is a huge etiquette faux pas, it was still putting her vision ahead of what was most polite to their guests.  I'm sure most of us had to make compromises for our wedding.

    Heck, I had longtime visions of how I had always pictured my wedding.  But, when push came to shove, so many of those things just did not fit in with my guest list or location and I had to give up on ideas I had always planned for.  But that isn't a sad statement, I just went with what made the most sense and flowed best for the wedding my H and I were hosting. 

    I actually put the "at home" reception into a different category.  That's typically something where people were invited to the ceremony and actual reception, but many guests chose not to go because it was far away.  So the couple has a "come celebrate our marriage" party when they return.  Which is a lovely idea.  In other words, it is the guests themselves choosing not to travel to (insert foreign country) for the ceremony/reception, not the couple only inviting them to the reception. 

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