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MM bummer: unexpected family wedding expenses.

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edited April 2016 in Money Matters
Ugh, I am so frustrated. Two weeks ago, H's step sister called me and asked me to be a last minute bridesmaid in her wedding (wedding is first weekend in May), taking the place (and already ordered dress) of someone else. I said yes assuming that for a variety of reasons (see last minute and existing dress, plus also general courtesy) that the dress and everything would be taken care of. Well, on Friday we went in for fittings, and I took the cue that I was to pay. Okay fine, I'll pick up that $70 charge for the alterations. Then, today she texts me the receipt for the dress and shoes (Toms) to the tune of an additional $280. I'm completed floored by this rudeness and don't know how to tactfully respond, especially knowing full well that her dad and H's mom are picking up the tab for the entire wedding and the couple is likely pocketing a good chunk of what SFIL and MIL are giving them. What would you do in this situation? How should I tactfully respond? We can afford it, but our student loan payment for this month is already dwindling due to the cost of an emergency root canal. :(
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Re: MM bummer: unexpected family wedding expenses.

  • Are the other BMs paying for their dresses and shoes?
  • I'm sorry, I would tell her I couldn't afford it and unfortunately won't be able to be a bridesmaid, but that you'll be happy to enjoy the wedding as a guest.  That's rude of her to ask you to fill in as a replacement.  And even worse that she expects you to pick up the tab!  She probably put the order in for all the dresses and is on the hook and is trying to get someone to pay.  So wrong.
  • als1982als1982 member
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    Are the other BMs paying for their dresses and shoes?

    I have no idea. I think the others are her sister and niece (who I've never met), her finance's teenage niece, and a friend (who I just met on Saturday at the fitting).
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  • wow that's a lot of money for dress and shoes - I have no idea how to tactfully reply to that so I'm not help there.
  • als1982als1982 member
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    JoanE2012 said:
    I'm sorry, I would tell her I couldn't afford it and unfortunately won't be able to be a bridesmaid, but that you'll be happy to enjoy the wedding as a guest.  That's rude of her to ask you to fill in as a replacement.  And even worse that she expects you to pick up the tab!  She probably put the order in for all the dresses and is on the hook and is trying to get someone to pay.  So wrong.

    The sad thing is that we're probably the only ones who CAN afford it. I just don't want to spend the money on a terrible dress and shoes that I'll never ever wear again. 

    The bigger issue is that I don't want to cause family drama. Any way that I can avoid that? I feel like it's a darned if I do and darned if I don't situation. I wish I would have said no at this point, but really, that wouldn't have been a great option either! 

    Why do brides do this?! Do your relationships a favor and just pick up the tab or don't dictate dress.
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  • blondie42107blondie42107 member
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    Yuck! I don't know what I would say. For weddings I've been in, I've paid the dress, shoes, hair, etc. Usually the bride had gifted the jewelry. However, I had a 6 months to a years notice for every wedding I've been in. I try to avoid family drama but it does sound like "darned if you, darned if you don't."
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  • Ugh. That sucks, I'm sorry. I don't know if I can think of a good way out. I'm a believer that asking for a "backup bridesmaid" is rude to start. Around $200 for a dress doesn't bother me, but that's with plenty of warning and a bride who checks in about my budget first. Mandated Toms is not cool at all. I'd probably be tempted to say, "Oh! I'm so sorry. I don't know if I can budget for that on short notice. We must have had a misunderstanding" and then see what happens. Only you can decide if it's worth the drama, though. I'm assuming someone who does replacement bridesmaids may not be thinking 100% rationally right now.
  • als1982als1982 member
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    Ugh. That sucks, I'm sorry. I don't know if I can think of a good way out. I'm a believer that asking for a "backup bridesmaid" is rude to start. Around $200 for a dress doesn't bother me, but that's with plenty of warning and a bride who checks in about my budget first. Mandated Toms is not cool at all. I'd probably be tempted to say, "Oh! I'm so sorry. I don't know if I can budget for that on short notice. We must have had a misunderstanding" and then see what happens. Only you can decide if it's worth the drama, though. I'm assuming someone who does replacement bridesmaids may not be thinking 100% rationally right now.

    So very true. From what I can tell this wedding is full of etiquette no-nos from no true rehearsal dinner to a Catholic gap, so I don't think there's been much thought about others from the beginning. 

    I think what I've decided you do is tell her that H and I planned to give them $200 for their wedding, and that instead of a wedding gift we would be willing to contribute that amount toward the dress, shoes and any other expenses that may arise. Is that terrible?
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  • Not terrible at all to deduct from her gift to cover your costs. You were nice enough to agree to step up when someone dropped out with very little notice. I would just pay for the dress and tell her that I'm sorry, but we hadn't budgeted for these expenses, I can't do the shoes, I'll wear a pair of shoes I already own or go to payless & get a pair that coordinates. If she insists you wear tom's, then she (or her parents) can buy them for you.
  • Erikan73 said:
    Not terrible at all to deduct from her gift to cover your costs. You were nice enough to agree to step up when someone dropped out with very little notice. I would just pay for the dress and tell her that I'm sorry, but we hadn't budgeted for these expenses, I can't do the shoes, I'll wear a pair of shoes I already own or go to payless & get a pair that coordinates. If she insists you wear tom's, then she (or her parents) can buy them for you.

    I agree, though I might just do it instead of telling her about it. We both tend to give less extravagant gifts when we're in the wedding, and instead give something smaller but meaningful. All my bridesmaids did the same to me. I'd also be wondering, if I were you, what other expenses might be coming. Will there be mandated hair? Invoice for a crazy bachelorette party? I do think I'd tell her, if/when you give money for the dress, that unfortunately that's your budget for being a bridesmaid.
  • als1982 said:
     I said yes assuming that for a variety of reasons (see last minute and existing dress, plus also general courtesy) that the dress and everything would be taken care of.

    Personally, this is what I would fall back on.  Tell her that you originally said you would accept only if these items were being covered.

    Or....you could take the passive aggressive route and just ignore the "bill" and see what happens.

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  • Erikan73 said:
    Not terrible at all to deduct from her gift to cover your costs. You were nice enough to agree to step up when someone dropped out with very little notice. I would just pay for the dress and tell her that I'm sorry, but we hadn't budgeted for these expenses, I can't do the shoes, I'll wear a pair of shoes I already own or go to payless & get a pair that coordinates. If she insists you wear tom's, then she (or her parents) can buy them for you.
    I'm very sorry for your situation.  Because it is family it is a sticky situation and avoiding drama is probably best.  I like Erikan's advice.  I also think the language you use when you bring this up is key.  Something like, "We are really happy for you and are of course here to support you, however, these expenses are not in the budget.  We'll move some money around to pay for the dress and can find some similar shoes if that is alright."

    If you let her know that she is important, the wedding is important and you are making effort on your side to pay for these things then it is on her if drama is created.  It may also nip future potential expenses in the bud.
  • als1982 said:
    JoanE2012 said:
    I'm sorry, I would tell her I couldn't afford it and unfortunately won't be able to be a bridesmaid, but that you'll be happy to enjoy the wedding as a guest.  That's rude of her to ask you to fill in as a replacement.  And even worse that she expects you to pick up the tab!  She probably put the order in for all the dresses and is on the hook and is trying to get someone to pay.  So wrong.

    The sad thing is that we're probably the only ones who CAN afford it. I just don't want to spend the money on a terrible dress and shoes that I'll never ever wear again

    The bigger issue is that I don't want to cause family drama. Any way that I can avoid that? I feel like it's a darned if I do and darned if I don't situation. I wish I would have said no at this point, but really, that wouldn't have been a great option either! 

    Why do brides do this?! Do your relationships a favor and just pick up the tab or don't dictate dress.
    Having cash available is not the same as being able to afford something. Your original post says that your student loan payment is dwindling because of an emergency dental bill. She doesn't know what other bills you have and she shouldn't be so presumptuous with your money. Even if you had a Scrooge McDuck vault of cash in your house you don't have to pay to be a B-list bridesmaid if you don't want to. I would say "I'm sorry when I agreed I didn't realize this would be so expensive, I'm not going to be able to be a bridesmaid after all". You aren't creating drama by backing down so if drama occurs it's on her. 
  • That sucks, I'm sorry.  But I would pay for it.  She's your H's step-sister.

    I think you just have to ask yourself if saving yourself ~$300 is worth the family drama that could ensue if you say no. For me, saving that money would not be worth it.  It may set back your debt payment by $300, but as you have said... you guys can afford it.

    I agree that giving a smaller wedding gift would be totally on the table here.  H and I usually end up doing this because being in the wedding party inevitably costs us $500-$1000 or so, depending on how elaborate they get.

    I will say that sometimes I put my foot down when it starts to get ridiculous.  H is in a wedding this winter, and the bride asked the whole wedding party to book 3 nights at the hotel where the wedding is being hosted.  Apparently the wedding festivities are lasting that long.  I looked into it, and it was going to cost us around $900 to do that.  Alternatively, we could book at a Hyatt less than 3 minutes away (same exit) for free on points, and it would also include breakfast.  Obviously we are going to do the Hyatt and not the expensive hotel.  

    The bride got pissed.  Do not ask me why she cares where we stay, because I don't understand it at all.  $900 was deal breaker territory for us, especially because H still has to do the tux rental, bachelor party, engagement party, couples shower.... and every single one of these events is out of town for us.  H explained this to the groom, and he was totally fine with it.  So neither of us really care if the bride remains pissed.  We think she will get over it eventually.

    But for $300 and family, I think I would pay up.  It would irritate me, and I would definitely grumble about it though...


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  • julieanne912julieanne912 member
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    If it were me, and someone asked me to be a "replacement bridesmaid" would make me turn them down before it even got as far as a dress fitting.  That's beyond rude... it's like "Hey, I like you alright, but not enough to ask you to be a bridesmaid in the first place".  Did she just go through her list of guests until she happened upon the first person who had a chance of fitting in the dress?

    But, because you mentioned it being family, you might be stuck since you already agreed to do it.  That really sucks though, some brides (and people in general) have no clue how rude they're being, and if they do, they don't care, which is another problem in itself.
  • als1982 said:
    Ugh. That sucks, I'm sorry. I don't know if I can think of a good way out. I'm a believer that asking for a "backup bridesmaid" is rude to start. Around $200 for a dress doesn't bother me, but that's with plenty of warning and a bride who checks in about my budget first. Mandated Toms is not cool at all. I'd probably be tempted to say, "Oh! I'm so sorry. I don't know if I can budget for that on short notice. We must have had a misunderstanding" and then see what happens. Only you can decide if it's worth the drama, though. I'm assuming someone who does replacement bridesmaids may not be thinking 100% rationally right now.

    So very true. From what I can tell this wedding is full of etiquette no-nos from no true rehearsal dinner to a Catholic gap, so I don't think there's been much thought about others from the beginning. 

    I think what I've decided you do is tell her that H and I planned to give them $200 for their wedding, and that instead of a wedding gift we would be willing to contribute that amount toward the dress, shoes and any other expenses that may arise. Is that terrible?
    I think this is great!  Sounds very reasonable to me and she should understand.
  • don't even mention about the shoes - btw I have no idea what toms are lol.  She shouldn't even notice your shoes on her wedding day and if she does it must be all about appearances to her.
  • vlagrl35 said:
    als1982 said:
    Ugh. That sucks, I'm sorry. I don't know if I can think of a good way out. I'm a believer that asking for a "backup bridesmaid" is rude to start. Around $200 for a dress doesn't bother me, but that's with plenty of warning and a bride who checks in about my budget first. Mandated Toms is not cool at all. I'd probably be tempted to say, "Oh! I'm so sorry. I don't know if I can budget for that on short notice. We must have had a misunderstanding" and then see what happens. Only you can decide if it's worth the drama, though. I'm assuming someone who does replacement bridesmaids may not be thinking 100% rationally right now.

    So very true. From what I can tell this wedding is full of etiquette no-nos from no true rehearsal dinner to a Catholic gap, so I don't think there's been much thought about others from the beginning. 

    I think what I've decided you do is tell her that H and I planned to give them $200 for their wedding, and that instead of a wedding gift we would be willing to contribute that amount toward the dress, shoes and any other expenses that may arise. Is that terrible?
    I think this is great!  Sounds very reasonable to me and she should understand.

    Except she may just say, "Oh, that's no trouble, I'll pay for it all for you." Then, you're on the hook for a $200 wedding gift! Same problem.


  • vlagrl35 said:
    als1982 said:
    Ugh. That sucks, I'm sorry. I don't know if I can think of a good way out. I'm a believer that asking for a "backup bridesmaid" is rude to start. Around $200 for a dress doesn't bother me, but that's with plenty of warning and a bride who checks in about my budget first. Mandated Toms is not cool at all. I'd probably be tempted to say, "Oh! I'm so sorry. I don't know if I can budget for that on short notice. We must have had a misunderstanding" and then see what happens. Only you can decide if it's worth the drama, though. I'm assuming someone who does replacement bridesmaids may not be thinking 100% rationally right now.

    So very true. From what I can tell this wedding is full of etiquette no-nos from no true rehearsal dinner to a Catholic gap, so I don't think there's been much thought about others from the beginning. 

    I think what I've decided you do is tell her that H and I planned to give them $200 for their wedding, and that instead of a wedding gift we would be willing to contribute that amount toward the dress, shoes and any other expenses that may arise. Is that terrible?
    I think this is great!  Sounds very reasonable to me and she should understand.

    Except she may just say, "Oh, that's no trouble, I'll pay for it all for you." Then, you're on the hook for a $200 wedding gift! Same problem.



    Not really. We had already budgeted the $200 for a gift. But $200 given because we want to bless them with a nice gift as they start their marriage is much different than being asked for it as reimbursement for doing her a favor.
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  • als1982 said:
    vlagrl35 said:
    als1982 said:
    Ugh. That sucks, I'm sorry. I don't know if I can think of a good way out. I'm a believer that asking for a "backup bridesmaid" is rude to start. Around $200 for a dress doesn't bother me, but that's with plenty of warning and a bride who checks in about my budget first. Mandated Toms is not cool at all. I'd probably be tempted to say, "Oh! I'm so sorry. I don't know if I can budget for that on short notice. We must have had a misunderstanding" and then see what happens. Only you can decide if it's worth the drama, though. I'm assuming someone who does replacement bridesmaids may not be thinking 100% rationally right now.

    So very true. From what I can tell this wedding is full of etiquette no-nos from no true rehearsal dinner to a Catholic gap, so I don't think there's been much thought about others from the beginning. 

    I think what I've decided you do is tell her that H and I planned to give them $200 for their wedding, and that instead of a wedding gift we would be willing to contribute that amount toward the dress, shoes and any other expenses that may arise. Is that terrible?
    I think this is great!  Sounds very reasonable to me and she should understand.

    Except she may just say, "Oh, that's no trouble, I'll pay for it all for you." Then, you're on the hook for a $200 wedding gift! Same problem.



    Not really. We had already budgeted the $200 for a gift. But $200 given because we want to bless them with a nice gift as they start their marriage is much different than being asked for it as reimbursement for doing her a favor.
    yeah if it's already budgeted for then I think it seems logical to let her know you can't afford the dress now that it was not budgeted for but you are happily willing to be a step in bridesmaid but for her to understand you now cannot afford to gift her.
  • vlagrl35 said:
    als1982 said:
    vlagrl35 said:
    als1982 said:
    Ugh. That sucks, I'm sorry. I don't know if I can think of a good way out. I'm a believer that asking for a "backup bridesmaid" is rude to start. Around $200 for a dress doesn't bother me, but that's with plenty of warning and a bride who checks in about my budget first. Mandated Toms is not cool at all. I'd probably be tempted to say, "Oh! I'm so sorry. I don't know if I can budget for that on short notice. We must have had a misunderstanding" and then see what happens. Only you can decide if it's worth the drama, though. I'm assuming someone who does replacement bridesmaids may not be thinking 100% rationally right now.

    So very true. From what I can tell this wedding is full of etiquette no-nos from no true rehearsal dinner to a Catholic gap, so I don't think there's been much thought about others from the beginning. 

    I think what I've decided you do is tell her that H and I planned to give them $200 for their wedding, and that instead of a wedding gift we would be willing to contribute that amount toward the dress, shoes and any other expenses that may arise. Is that terrible?
    I think this is great!  Sounds very reasonable to me and she should understand.

    Except she may just say, "Oh, that's no trouble, I'll pay for it all for you." Then, you're on the hook for a $200 wedding gift! Same problem.



    Not really. We had already budgeted the $200 for a gift. But $200 given because we want to bless them with a nice gift as they start their marriage is much different than being asked for it as reimbursement for doing her a favor.
    yeah if it's already budgeted for then I think it seems logical to let her know you can't afford the dress now that it was not budgeted for but you are happily willing to be a step in bridesmaid but for her to understand you now cannot afford to gift her.

    Oh absolutely. I texted her this morning to let her know that we could do the $200. We won't be getting a gift otherwise, but I don't know that we need to say that outright.
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  • If you're not going to give a gift due to the circumstances (totally understandable), I'd at least give them a card.

    But that might also be a "me" thing.  I just can't go to a wedding empty handed.  I have to at least give a congratulations-type greeting card.

  • If you're not going to give a gift due to the circumstances (totally understandable), I'd at least give them a card.

    But that might also be a "me" thing.  I just can't go to a wedding empty handed.  I have to at least give a congratulations-type greeting card.

    Ditto this.  At least give them a card and maybe budget for a $10 bottle of wine they can open on their anniversary or something.  

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  • Ouch, that's a tough situation and it will be difficult to deal with it in a way that doesn't upset someone. However, I agree with many others who say to get a card and maybe a small gift and to consider the expenses spent on the dress and shoes as "the gift."
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