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All right...who supports Balsillie?
Cmon $100m relocation fee..... Bettman makes me sick
All i have to say is lets make it SEVEN!
Re: All right...who supports Balsillie?
Mom, why are you washing my feed in the sink?!
OMG, I am laughing so hard right now!
I totally agree, Betman is a douche, Canadians have the fans to fill the seats so why the heck keep the team somewhere that it isn't thriving, plus hockey doesn't belong in the desert!
I don't even think the maple leafs would care...more buffalo than Toronto would care.
If there is a market for it (which apparently there is in Hamilton), and there isn't in Phoenix....move the damn team.
Bettman is an idiot.
I think we should get a team back in Winnipeg before Ontario gets another.
just sayin'
:P
The relocation fee is ridiculous. I can't wrap my head around why the NHL wants to place teams in cities that can't support them and is vehemently against relocation to a city than can support the team and will ensure the franchise thrives.
I'm not a business person, but to me a team that makes money is better than one that loses money, no?
I've had two NHL teams as clients, and Toronto is the reason the NHL is where it's at... both good and bad, I must admit, but I still can't stand them. I also know a couple of people who work for the NHL.
Of anywhere, southern Ontario is the BEST place to put a team. Toronto and Buffalo be damned!
I think for Bettman its a pride issue. He hates Balsillie and will try to do whatever he can to squash him. Little does he know that Balsillie has a huge love for hockey and a massive cheque book.
It also will do great things for hamilton...
This was dinner conversation last night. It would be cool for Winnipeg to get a team again, but I don't think they can support it.
There just isn't the fan base that there is in southern Ontario.
We had this discussion at lunch. It would be great but i just dont ever see it happening!
I agree with all of this. Buffalo's games are as full as they are because of the St. Catherine's and Niagara crowd that go over the border for their games.
One of the major reasons people like me hate the leafs is that they charge waaaayyy to much for their tickets, you can't even get season's tickets unless someone dies, and everyone in the platinum section is just there on business meetings, and it has nothing to do with actually being a fan of the game.
ANNNDDD... Toronto makes more money for the league than any other team, so why should they be paid all of that freaking money for a fee???
Do we know that for sure? What factors determine fan base, and who decides that, ya know?
Sure Ontario might have more people per capita, or square inch, or whatever. But lets say only that out of those more people, not as much like hockey,
Whereas Winnipeg has less people, but more of those less people like hockey.
Or, ignore me and my stupid rambling because I really don't know what I am talking about.
I totally agree. DH and I were talking about this and he said he has heard that they might consider starting a new team in Hamilton and leave the Coyote's in Phoenix. This sounds even worse then just moving the team. Why leave a team floundering and start another one?
~Katie~
I don't have much in the way of hockey stats, but the team folded once right. So why would it be financially viable to put a team there now, when it folded once already? Same argument with Quebec.
Also, Winnipeg has, what about 650,000 residents? Not sure of the surrounding area, so maybe someone can fill in that stat, but there are more than 6 million people within a one hour drive of Hamilton.
you underestimate the power of the prairies.
I have no idea how many people are where. And ya, they did lose their team before, but on the plus side, they wouldn't need to build a new rink for this team.
I just don't like the fact that Ontario would get another team, when some provinces don't have some. But I get it.
wanna hear a joke?
Why won't they put a NHL team in Victoria?
-Because then Vancouver would want one.
(back to work I go.. I deal with the backlash later. :P )
Again, I could be totally in the wrong, but another reason that was states last night was that Winnipeg's arena isn't big enough and no one has come forward expressing interest and investing resources like Balsillie. I really have no idea how large it is, so if I'm wrong, correct me.
Don't we all just feel so Canadian after this post
I've seen the financial statements of two NHL teams, and one of the big things to consider is a) who would own it - does Winnipeg have someone or a group of people that could afford it, and afford to keep it afloat? Most NHL owners need to put in a cash injection each year, sometimes of tens of millions of dollars. b) where would they build it and how much would that cost? If they have to build a new arena, it will cost approx. 120-180 million dollars, which can also include infrastructure costs of building roads, off ramps c) ensuring that you can also fill the arena the rest of the time. Most arenas use the off time for concerts, etc. so if they don't have the draw for that sort of thing, they won't make the money there either....
Have you heard the Make It Seven song?
http://www.makeitseven.ca/index.php?id=watch&vid=1202552.
::waiving from Regina::: Hello! We're here too! lol Although, I readily admit that our population can likely only support one sports franchise.
Amy you're my hero!!
This is why I so need to come to this board way more often!
I am a Winnipegger, and was a die-hard Jets fan. I was CRUSHED when they left. However, I have to admit, that as a city we cannot support an NHL team the way the league is right now. But, Hamilton getting a team would be a turn in the tide towards us getting a team back in the future. They have a greater population base to draw from.
Bettman is an IDIOT! He does not want to admit that his grand plan to expand the league into new markets was done way to quickly and was not well thought out. Phoenix cannot support a team. California cannot support the THREE teams they have. And, my prediction, the current economy is only going to make things worse for him. Americas who are not born and bred in hockey are not going to hold onto their tickets. Hockey simply cannot hold it own with baseball, basketball or football in the southern markets. The NHL really needs to get rid of Bettman. I applaud Balsillie for trying to bring a team back to Canada, and I think he has done his research on the market. I just wish he hadn't gotten into a pissing match with Bettman. The 100 mil relocation fee is a joke, and you know that if he was trying to put the team in some US city it wouldn't be there.
Pow Alice - right to the moon!!!