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He look liked a weight had been lifted off of him. She sounded like she would rather be in the relationship and miserable then be alone.
I didn't see it (at work).
But I saw on yahoo that they are divorcing.
Sad. I am sad for those kids.
But I'm not surprised. Kate's a b*tch. I wouldn't live with her if you paid me to.
I'm completely saddened by the fact that 8 months of hardship constituted dissolving a 10 year marriage. It saddened me to hear (or rather not hear) not even once a mention of saving the relationship.
I think Jon has to get off his high horse of I need to be more macho now and run things and Kate needs to just really take time for herself and find out who she really is, instead of who everyone expects her to be.
I'm so shocked and very saddened.
I bet this has been going on a lot longer than 8 months. It has just been made more public in the last 8 months. You can see how beaten down he has been by her with each passing season of the show.
If they left the show I bet they would have to give back their house and everything else they got for free. I can't imagine what kind of situation that would put them in. But I do not think it is good for them to be having this all aired on TV for their kids to see.
I am sad for the kids (not that their parents are divorcing) because they have had to go through this entire process. It must have some long term impacts on their mental health. I am not sad for Kate or John. I think that they knew what they were getting into and I do think that they (well it appears John) are doing what is best for their family.
Personally I feel bad for Jon I think he was a real victim of the tabloids. ?I really do think that this was a situation where had they not been in the limelight it would not have ended the marriage.?
Honestly, I wouldn't want to try and work things out with her either. She has treated him like crap for years. It is about time he stood up for himself. Perhaps what we are seeing is the result of someone who has been controlled for years and is finally "free" and is loving be able to be himself (again).
I do think that they both need to man up and be good parents to their kids and make that the priority right now.
Aarrghh...I DVR's the episode, but it cut off early (my timing must be off), so i didn't get to hear the official announcement or anything...I'll have to look for a replay of it.
I feel for those kids...and I think that Kate, while she can be a shrew, gets all the negative attention, but I think Jon doesn't always pull his weight. I think, based on his comments about only being 32 that he feels like he has missed out on being a young adult and is not stepping up to all of his responsibilities.
They are both to blame.
I am suprised so many people are shocked and saddened by the news.
Frankly, I think it is the best thing they could do (although they also need to end the show for the kids sake). I think this is best for everyone, including the kids. Jon and Kate each deserve to be with someone that makes them happy and staying in an unhappy, unhealthy relationship just for the kids would be a terrible idea. And while it is going to be difficult on the kids, it would also be difficult to have unhappy parents all the time.
Don't get me wrong, as much as I hate Kate, I hate Jon too.
He is totally having a mid-life (well early, I guess) crisis. I'm not big fans of either of them.
I'm glad they're splitting, because those kids would be stuck watching a toxic relationship over the years. It's better for the kids if they were both happy, but they also need to focus on the family, and not the stupid show.
Very well said. I agree.
Wow I have to say I'm very surprised at how many of you have mentioned that divorce seemed like the only option for them.
I guess being a child of divorce has made me think that there has to be a better solution or at least that an effort should be made before divorce becomes the only viable option.
I know I'm in the minority, but I don't think Kate treats Jon like crap. I think when she barks at him, it's because she is in survival mode, and tired and frustrated and needs more help. If she didn't stand her ground like that, I don't think she get any relief.
I see a lot of myself and DH in Kate and Jon. For example, I feel like I have the most common sense about kids, and keeping them on a schedule, and knowing where everything is in the house, etc. Parenting one kid barely leaves any 'me' or couple time. I can't imagine what it's like times 8. DH and I found ourselves growing apart, and worked really hard to make things right again. I totally know what it can be like...and then they have hollywood pressures, scadas of money, etc.
And it must be hard on Jon to walk around everywhere and her people call him a pussydude, and that his wife treats him like crap, and she's such a b*tch. I'm sure that didn't help. It's not that cool to do "dad" things all day long, for eight years straight. But that's what they have to do, to make it work...
I agree. I think that when you have kids, you have an obligation to provide a happy and healthy home for them. I think that generally speaking, a two parent home is best, if it can work at all. I think that a couple is obligated to do everything in their power to save their marriage, once they have kids- and I don't think Jon and Kate have done that. I think that Jon, in particular, is running away from his family and that just isn't right, IMHO.
*** ETA: except, obviously, in cases of abuse or whatnot. If you are in an abusive relationship, the best thing for both yourself and your child is to pack your bags and get the hell out as fast as you can.
It is so hard to say what has happened in their relationship and if they worked on things or not. I doubt they are walking away from this without at least trying. But we only see what TLC and the media want us to see and they most likely don't get ratings from a couple trying to make things work. Not enough drama in that.
Yes it is better for parents to stay together and try to make things work but if it can not work, if it is actually worse for the kids then why stay in it?