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dvr w/o cable/satellite?

ILs want a DVR to replace their vcr so they can record shows when they aren't home.  However they do not have cable, likely never will.  They get the major networks and that's it.  They have a nice flatscreen tv though, with a digital tuner and the converter box.  

i know you can buy DVRs, but do they work without some kind of programming guide?  Do they record on dvds or on a hard drive? 

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Gretchen Evie, born 7/8/2012 at 35w5d

Re: dvr w/o cable/satellite?

  • The best fit for them will be a TiVo HD. It records to a hard drive and will work with just an antenna/tuner and still record in HD. They can also view Netflix movies and other online media. TiVo is known for having the best user interface and is by far the easiest to use.

    Here's the page from TiVo which talks about over-the-air options:

    http://www.tivo.com/whatistivo/overtheairhd/index.html

  • I think they would be fine if it didn't record in HD, and they won't want to pay any kind of monthly service fee, so I think Tivo is out because you have to subscribe to Tivo service, am I right?  
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    Gretchen Evie, born 7/8/2012 at 35w5d
  • They could do a Windows Media Center PC -- http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-media-center/

    That's what I have, but I also have an XBox 360 acting as an extender, rather than hooking the PC directly up to the TV (which is possible, but for us the XBox is a better option).  There's no subscription fee and guide data is provided at no charge, but you do need an Internet connection (dial-up will work, but broadband is better).  Since it records to the hard drive you can have as much or as little space as you need, and if burning to DVD is important you can do that as long as the show isn't copy protected.

    There are downsides though. First is that it's a large upfront cost because you have to buy a computer.  Although if you have an existing computer you might be able to buy a tuner and install that.  However, if your parents aren't very tech savvy it could be difficult to find the right hardware and get that installed.  The forums on http://thegreenbutton.com would be a good place to ask for help about hardware if this is an option you'd like to pursue.

  • Unless your parents are technically savvy enough to use a solution like the one above (or MythTV, among others), some version of TiVo is actually the most user-friendly option. There is a monthly fee for the guides, but that is the case with many options. Also, you can use a TiVo as you would a VCR without the guides. You'd have to program everything manually, but you'd miss out on many of the benefits of even having a DVR. If they don't care about HD, the older Series 2 models are good if you can get your hands on one. I'm not sure if TiVo even sells them anymore.
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