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Health Care?

So I usually post on the P&CE board, and the talk is often about health care reform in the US. I'm usually one of two Canadians posting, and we both (obviously) havev universal health care and can't  imagine things any other way....we admit there are flaws, but still prefer it to the US system.

So I'm curious. Do you like the health care system we have? Would you rather have a user-pay system like the US? Any experiences you'd like to share?


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Re: Health Care?

  • So I'm curious. Do you like the health care system we have? YES

    Would you rather have a user-pay system like the US? NO

    Any experiences you'd like to share? Quite a few. All of them would take too much time. I think the big one that dispels a lot of rumours on the American boards has to do with age- they're always telling me that the elderly don't get care here because they're too old. My grandpa, at 85, had open heart surgery last year to correct a birth defect. When he was younger they didn't have the technology to fix it and once they did he decided it wasn't bothering him enough to undergo surgery. But he eventually decided to do it and once he made the decision he was on the operating table within a week.

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  • Anabelle, I agree. There are A LOT of myths.  I recall one post where someone was saying that the government decides who our doctors are and whether or not we can see a specialist.  I found that really ironic because, isn't that what American healthcare is like with having to have an approved in-network doctor? 

    I think there are a lot of things about our healthcare system that need to be fixed, but am certainly glad to have it.

  • I heard someone on one of the boards say that there is a set amount of money for healthcare each year and once we run out there is nothing left. So if you get hurt after the money has run out you are SOL.

     

  • imageJen&Joe06:

    I heard someone on one of the boards say that there is a set amount of money for healthcare each year and once we run out there is nothing left. So if you get hurt after the money has run out you are SOL.

     

    That's bizarre!   Where do people come up with this stuff!?

  • No idea but obviously since I am a december baby it means I was delivered by polar bears.
  • imageJen&Joe06:
    No idea but obviously since I am a december baby it means I was delivered by polar bears.

    I have two replies to this in my head.  The first - a gross comment about your placenta - shall not be typed.   The other - glad the bears had their nails trimmed!  It's just not as funny.  :P

     

  • imageLaurierGirl28:

    So I usually post on the P&CE board, and the talk is often about health care reform in the US. I'm usually one of two Canadians posting, and we both (obviously) havev universal health care and can't  imagine things any other way....we admit there are flaws, but still prefer it to the US system.

    So I'm curious. Do you like the health care system we have? Would you rather have a user-pay system like the US? Any experiences you'd like to share?


     

    I think I might be other Canadian that posts on the PC&E board....

    still I wanted to jump in here. because while I would rather our system over the US system I am not totally against paying. My concern is that we seem to think it is either our way or the American way with nothing in between. My DH is Australian and they have a public and private system. Everyone is covered under the public but people can choose to pay for private service. I thought it would be really expensive or that you'd have to make over $100,000.  not so. I knew people making 30,000 who opted into the private system.

    I was also surprised at how little the health care situation got covered by the news or talked about between people - unlike here and south of the boarder. Some of the perks people told me about were that in private hospitals women stayed in for 5 days after giving birth, rooms are private and they told me that they thought it helped the public system because the wait times were less for both.

    So based on living there and seeing it first hand I know that there is a 3rd option that can work. not saying it's perfect but it worked. 

     

  • imageTuscanaBride2B:
    imageLaurierGirl28:

    So I usually post on the P&CE board, and the talk is often about health care reform in the US. I'm usually one of two Canadians posting, and we both (obviously) havev universal health care and can't  imagine things any other way....we admit there are flaws, but still prefer it to the US system.

    So I'm curious. Do you like the health care system we have? Would you rather have a user-pay system like the US? Any experiences you'd like to share?


     

    I think I might be other Canadian that posts on the PC&E board....

    still I wanted to jump in here. because while I would rather our system over the US system I am not totally against paying. My concern is that we seem to think it is either our way or the American way with nothing in between. My DH is Australian and they have a public and private system. Everyone is covered under the public but people can choose to pay for private service. I thought it would be really expensive or that you'd have to make over $100,000.  not so. I knew people making 30,000 who opted into the private system.

    I was also surprised at how little the health care situation got covered by the news or talked about between people - unlike here and south of the boarder. Some of the perks people told me about were that in private hospitals women stayed in for 5 days after giving birth, rooms are private and they told me that they thought it helped the public system because the wait times were less for both.

    So based on living there and seeing it first hand I know that there is a 3rd option that can work. not saying it's perfect but it worked. 

     

    I would support that type of hybrid system (I think they have it in Germany too) where you can recieve care under public, or pay for private.

    In some ways, I actually think it would help control costs,  because of the influx of $$ into the system - it may help entice new doctors, but thats just my opinion, I really have no idea.

    I am constantly trying to dispell myths on the PCE boards....particularly the age-related one. There always seems to be someone who "has heard, through a cousin of a cousin of a cousin" of someone who was denied care at 105. I explained that that is completely against all of our 'rules' but perhaps a doctor suggested treatment wasn't the best option at that age. Which of course meant the gov't was all rationing HC.

    I do find it ironic how they worry about "rationing" when that is exactly what happens with their insurance companies.

    I'd love to read some articles before Canada got UHC to see what the discussions were like.

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