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I hate people.
From a FB "friend":
"People without healthcare CHOOSE to go without healthcare. Its called budgeting and sacrifice, people. You have to pick between paying for health insurance or buying a new car and a flat screen TV. You are selfish, greedy, and lazy....so you expect the government to pay for your insurance."
I swear I want to reach through my computer and slap her stupid spoiled rich ass so hard. It's easy to say that people "choose" to go without health care when you live a sheltered life and have never ever once worried about any sort of bills. She has no mother effing clue how some people live. Shocker, her husband and uber-rich in laws work in the insurance industry.
I'm not trying to spark a debate on the health care bill, but people who think like this just make me so so angry. Having trouble or being unable to afford health care isn't about laziness in most cases (I said most, not all). I know far too many hard working people that struggle every day.
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Have there been any comments to that status? Curious to see if there's anyone else who feels like you who has responded and sparked a debate. I really wish people be more educated on issues before they open their fat mouths.
Lucy Elizabeth 10.27.12
Her husband by chance? Or one of his family members?
I am pretty sure I'm in the minority here, but I tend to agree with that statement.
My first job out of college paid 20k with no benefits. My second job paid 24k with no benefits. Going without health insurance was just not an option for me. I worked 2 additional jobs (6 days/7 nights a week) for 2 full years so I could live on my own and pay my own bills, including health insurance. Which was through the roof since I had to procure it for myself. I sacrificed a lot back then (didn't even own a tv or computer) but having insurance was a priority for me.
But what about the person who had a great job, insurance and then had a massive heart attack. Lets say that they recover and are on maintenance meds. Then said person loses their job due to the crappy economy. Along with the job goes their insurance as well. Now they won't be covered due to pre-existing conditions or the rate is so high that they couldn't possibly work enough to afford it. Are they lazy?
These are the people I know, too. I know there are others out there. But, I actually hate people as well.
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Tell that girl that she has put me in a stabby mood.
I think I agree with angelfire on this. Overall i think people should have to earn what they get, healthcare included. The government should be there to help in certain circumstances, but shouldn't just give out freebies.
But i do agree with you KB for being annoyed, i hate when people use facebook to force their political opinions on everyone.
I'll chime in on this one because I got in a debate about this last night. KB - I do think that statement is ridiculous only because the girl seems absolutely clueless.
That said, I do believe that health care is a priviledge, not a right. People should have the right to buy health insurance if they want, regardless of any pre existing conditions. My whole problem with government run healthcare lies in the fact that our tax money will end up paying for health care for people who take shitttty care of themselves. If you smoke, drink, and end up with some sort of cancer, that's your own damn problem. I don't think the government should pay for your treatments for your own stupidity,
ant over.
I get what you guys are saying. My point, which may have been lost in my ranting was that I do not for one second believe that "Can't afford health care" = "selfish, greedy individuals who choose to buy luxury items instead". I might be willing to concede that a small percentage of loathsome individuals make this choice but not the majority. Coming out of the mouth of an individual who is extremely privileged and has never worried about bills or health care for a second, I found it absolutely arrogant and insulting.
This, 100%. Plus, I agree with everything Angels said. I've never gone without healthcare because I've been forced to pay for it. In MA, if you go without healthcare, they take what you would have paid out of your tax return. I was paying for shiit insurance thru the state for $145/ week with a $1750 deductable until I got my new job last year.
I was also kicked off my parents insurance as a child because I have a pre-existing condition ( a heart murmur and a hole in my heart), thus they were forced to find other insurance to cover me. Did they allow me to go without and work the system? No, but they easily could have. I believe a good perfectage of people probably could find options, but choose not to. I also know a good percentage of people who have been laid off who are absolutely not actively looking for another job, but FB update constantly about how terrible their lives are.
Yes, there are people who are struggling in the US who need assistance. But I think free-bee's should only be for the most serious cases.
Ok the FB person is dumb for saying that. There are lots of reasons people don't have health insurance. I feel Angel's pain on the living on $20k and having to buy your own insurance, but at that salary it's still possible. I used to freelance and was lucky if I made $200/wk. Did I buy health insurance? No freakin' way. I would have loved for somebody to just give it to me. I probably would have been able to hold out longer to see if the free lance thing picked up, or led to something better. But ultimately, I decided I couldn't continue to risk it. So I cut back on the freelance and got a job at Starbucks (they provide insurance as long as you work 20hr/wk).
So I'm torn on the gov't healthcare thing. On the one hand, it would have allowed me to try a little longer to "find myself" and work my "dream job" (but so would winning the lottery, inheriting $millions from an unknown relative or having a fairy that grants wishes... unfortunately those are not realistic things to base a career on).
On the other hand, life is about making choices and taking risks. I could have gone on without health insurance... I know lots of people in the industry that do. But I needed security more than I loved my job.
On the first hand again, not everyone is in a position to make that choice. I was very very poor, but I had options. There were steps I could take to become less poor and buy my own insurance. In the current economy I think it is very realistic to believe there are people who go out looking for better jobs and just don't find them. Or are so busy working the low-paying job that they don't have time to look for one that provides insurance. Yes, there are people that will abuse the system, but there are people that abuse welfare, and misuse their health insurance and cheat on their taxes too... we shouldn't stop trying to help people that need it just because some of them are a$$holes.
Ok, I realized you all stopped reading this post days ago, but I wanted to go on record with my opinion. The "I had it hard so other people should have it hard" mentality is not a sound basis for national administration.
The fact of the matter is that healthcare doesn't have to be hard, so why should we make it hard? The people who benefit in the current situation are healthcare and pharmaceutical companies, not normal people like you and me, insured or not. Wouldn't it be a relief to all of our minds if we could just get the medical treatment we needed when we needed it, without having to navigate the maze of insurance--what is covered, what isn't, what your deductible goes for, what is out of your limit for the year, etc.? I really think this notion that "people will abuse the system" is ridiculous. Munchausen's syndrome is real, but not common. People aren't going to start making up diseases because going to the doctor is so fun.
And, on a side note, I take offense to the seemingly common belief that because a person doesn't have a job means they aren't looking and just want handouts. The longer you are unemployed, the harder it is to get a job and just because they aren't sharing their heartbreak and the terror that they may ever find a job/afford rent/put food on the table with you doesn't mean they aren't experiencing it.
/rant over.
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