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Re: another athlete to cross off the Role Model list?

  • I struggle with the whole "celebrity-as-role-model" thing as it is. Here's the problem (in my mind) -- we pay these people to be entertainers. We're supposed to support them as entertainers. I include athletes in this because, let's face it, professional sports are a "show" as much as television or the ballet or a good book.

    We don't pay them to be good people. I think it's silly for us a society to say "Because you play basketball really well, you must behave by this set of standards and ethics." Did he cheat on the court? If the answer is no, we really have no right to be upset. The Age of Steroids in Baseball, the Black Sox scandal, Milli Vanilli lip-synching -- THESE are reasons to be upset with entertainers, because they lied to the public about what they were paid to do. We don't pay to see Brad Pitt onscreen because he's faithful to his wife -- in fact, we pay to see him onscreen after he was NOT faithful to his wife.

    Speaking of Brad, let's look at Angelina. Do I think she's a role model for actresses? Absolutely, she's amazingly talented. Do I think she's a role model in terms of charity work and global awareness? Absolutely, she's done some very important work both in this country and worldwide. Do I think she's a role model for being an honest woman in relationships? No -- she's the one who admitted she and Brad had an affair while he was still married to Jennifer. But I don't expect her to be my role model for that. It's not her job to be my moral compass, it's her job to entertain me.

    I apparently have some strong opinions on this...sorry, I didn't mean to rant on for that long! :)

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  • I expected this to be about Mark McGuire.

    I agree with everything SBS said, but to an extent.  I think that people who are paid million upon million of dollars should be held to a (bit of) a higher standard. They're paid millions of dollars to do certain things for the public - make good films, sing good songs, play good games. Everyday people pay them those millions of dollars to see these things. That's why they're popping Cristal in their many mansions while I'm slaving away over here in my office sipping coffee.

    Yes, they can be considered "human" just like the rest of us, because technically they are.  But if I'm getting paid millions upon millions of dollars, I'd expect people to judge me harshly when I eff up. And then especially if I lie about it, and get caught.

    And then even moreso when they get caught doing something dangerous, like steroids. If I pay $250 bucks to see the Pats get stomped over by the Ravens, or pay $150 to see a Sox/Yanks pitching match up, I wanna make sure it's a fair fight, ya know?

    I'm friends with everybody in this office. We're all best friends - I love everybody here. But sometimes your best friends start coming into work late, and start having dentist appointments that aren't dentist appointments. And that's when it is nice to let them know that you can beat them up.
  • I actually saw a really interesting article when the Tiger thing came out that mentioned Shaq was in the middle of or newly divorced because he cheated.  It also talked about how Michael Jordan and a few others cheated on their wives but no body really paid attention to it because it was almost expected from basketball players. 

    Personally I don't care if they run around and sleep with different girls every night but if that's what they want, then why get married?  Don't try to kid yourself and everyone around you that you are going to go from having sex with only one person when schedules allow when you have spent the past few years getting it from whomever, whenever you want it. 

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  • I agree with SBS that celebrities and athletes shouldn't really be held to a higher standard because of who they are. However, I hold everyone to that standard. I don't like cheaters. Never have.  I don't like my old basketball coach for cheating on his wife, and I don't like Tiger for doing it as well. I do not feel entertained by people I don't like.  But that is me. I have a hard time removing my feelings for the person from their position as an entertainer. To this day, I no longer listen to people like Garth Brooks and Vince Gill (and the female artists they left their wives for). I don't get any entertainment value out of people I have no respect for and I have little to no respect for cheaters.
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  • I think it's funny--and really belies the Puritanical roots of this country--that people get so upset and shocked when celebrities cheat.  It's the whole sex aspect--ooh!  They're having sex!  With someone they're not married to!  I think that's between the individual and their spouse (yes, maybe they shouldn't have gotten married, but nonetheless none of my business).

    As for performance-enhancing drugs, I think that's sort of our fault.  We want the biggest, strongest, fastest, flashiest athletes.  I sort of understand the pressure they must feel to perform, and I can see how they might turn to drugs to achieve that.  When we start setting clear behavior standards (drug free) instead of our current expectations (biggest muscles ever) then we'll see the change we claim to want (but I don't think that will ever happen--people like the flash and drama).

    As for professional-scandals like the Black Sox, throwing games, Winona Ryder stealing Gwyneth Paltrow's part--totally their fault and they should be torn up for it by the public (as they are).

    ETA: Leigha, I just read your post.  I think that's the right way to be--vote with your money/attention.  I just think people who read every drop of gossip and are like ooh--sex! are practically two-faced.  If you're really upset by a celebrity's behavior, you should be ignoring them (as you seem to be doing).

  • I totally see your points.  

    I think it does matter what these professional athletes do and how they behave. I think this for the simple fact that there are thousands of children with lack of parenting (or none at all) that look up to these athletes and these athletes know it.

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