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National Anthem Change?

:::pops in before heading to the eye doc:::

Stephen Harper's gov wants to change the words of the national anthem from "In all thy son's command" to....wait for it...."Thou dost in us command".

Discuss.

 :::pops out:::

Re: National Anthem Change?

  • WTF??? They better not change the anthem. What a douche...there are a lot more pressing issues to address - does he not have anything better to do? I LOVE our anthem - it gives me goosebumps every time I hear it!
  • imageMrsVicki:
    WTF??? They better not change the anthem. What a douche...there are a lot more pressing issues to address - does he not have anything better to do? I LOVE our anthem - it gives me goosebumps every time I hear it!

     

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  • I think the "dost" lyrics were the original lyrics anyway regardless,  while I think that it is important for our anthem to be inclusive I think this is dumb-city and not worth the $$$.  I take more issue with "God keep our land". 
  • imageBrookie-Cookie:
    I think the "dost" lyrics were the original lyrics anyway regardless,  while I think that it is important for our anthem to be inclusive I think this is dumb-city and not worth the $$$.  I take more issue with "God keep our land". 

    this!  I am a Christian, but I am huge supporter of the Separation of Church and State.  

  • Why not just make the Hockey Night in Canada theme song our national anthem? That will save them some time.
  • imageJen&Joe06:
    Why not just make the Hockey Night in Canada theme song our national anthem? That will save them some time.

    Because Canada can't afford to buy the rights from CTV.

  • imageJen&Joe06:
    Why not just make the Hockey Night in Canada theme song our national anthem? That will save them some time.

     

    I agree with this one. 

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  • I honestly think changing the anthem will cause more problems. I mean, the lyrics to the anthem we have now have been in place since 1980!! Now, 30 years later they want to be just a little more politically correct? I am not offended by the "in all our sons commands" and although I can see how the "God keep our land" part might also cause some controversy...Christianity dominated Canadian culture/life back when the lyrics were created.

    Granted, time has definitely changed since then, and Canada has become a very diverse country. However, I think it's important to stick to some roots. I mean, my parents came to Canada and adapted to the country - they don't expect the country to adapt to them. I think that's what we're doing when we need to start changing every small thing to adapt to the wide array of people now living in Canada no?

    I think there is a such a thing of TOO much political correctness IMO.

  • imageJen&Joe06:
    Why not just make the Hockey Night in Canada theme song our national anthem? That will save them some time.

    That would be cool

  • I think it would be dumb to change the lyrics.  Might as well change the whole song so that people dont screw up the words then.

    As for God keep our land, unless you are atheist, God could mean any higher being that you believe in.  I know it was written from a Christian perspective, but people can interpret it in their own way, in my opinion.

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  • I'm obviously in the minority here, but I like the proposed change. It seems to make the sentence more grammatically correct. Stick out tongue

    And I suspect that there would be less outrage about this if anyone but Steven Harper was doing this. Go ahead, flame me.

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  • imagering_pop:

    I'm obviously in the minority here, but I like the proposed change. It seems to make the sentence more grammatically correct. Stick out tongue

    And I suspect that there would be less outrage about this if anyone but Steven Harper was doing this. Go ahead, flame me.

    I agree. I don't think it's a bad thing at all.

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  • I think its ridiculous. I actually burst out laughing when I saw that on the news. "In all thy sons command" being changed to make it more gender equal...bahahaha what is new seriously? Don't even get me started...I just find it funny and I don't think it will ever pass so I guess thats why Im not taking this too seriously. Makes for good water cooler convo though :)
  • Is it even Harper that is pushing it forward?  I thought it was Michaelle Jean? 
  • imagestewiegriffin:

    I think it would be dumb to change the lyrics.  Might as well change the whole song so that people dont screw up the words then.

    As for God keep our land, unless you are atheist, God could mean any higher being that you believe in.  I know it was written from a Christian perspective, but people can interpret it in their own way, in my opinion.

    I was just going to say.  THe song doesn't specify which God.  I think it's dumb to change the lyrics.  I thought it was cool when they made the bilingual version the official version but changing one line is stupid. 

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    imageBrookie-Cookie:
    I think the "dost" lyrics were the original lyrics anyway regardless,  while I think that it is important for our anthem to be inclusive I think this is dumb-city and not worth the $$$.  I take more issue with "God keep our land". 


     

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  • Initially, my reaction to his proposed change was that it was absurd. And yeh, part of that was because this is just the most recent in a string of harebrained ideas put forward by the Harper government. Tongue Tied Once I thought about it, I realized I *still* thought it was ridiculous, but for different reasons.

    I agree that the idea of being politically correct has gone so far beyond reason that we can?t keep up. As a woman, I am not the slightest bit offended by these lyrics. Nor am I offended, as an Agnostic, that there is the mention of God in the song. The fact is that it has always been a unifying song for this country that goes beyond the literal interpretation of the words. I, personally, don?t believe this has anything to do with equal representation or equality. If that was the case, we would scrap it altogether and write a new one more representative of the multiculturalism of Canada.

    Flame away if you want, but I am one of those people who believe that, while everyone has the right to believe what they want, practice whatever religion they want, and speak their native language, I also believe that we must maintain some sort of historical significance to the Canadian experience or it loses it?s authenticity altogether.  

    To me the Canadian national Anthem is a symbol of something. If you mess with that, what?s next? These types of changes are not always about progress, the can take us backwards as much asthey can move us forward. It?s a slippery slope in my opinion and, while I support progress, it is not progress for the sake of progress...it must serve a purpose.

     

  • imageMelozia:

    Initially, my reaction to his proposed change was that it was absurd. And yeh, part of that was because this is just the most recent in a string of harebrained ideas put forward by the Harper government. Tongue Tied Once I thought about it, I realized I *still* thought it was ridiculous, but for different reasons.

    I agree that the idea of being politically correct has gone so far beyond reason that we can?t keep up. As a woman, I am not the slightest bit offended by these lyrics. Nor am I offended, as an Agnostic, that there is the mention of God in the song. The fact is that it has always been a unifying song for this country that goes beyond the literal interpretation of the words. I, personally, don?t believe this has anything to do with equal representation or equality. If that was the case, we would scrap it altogether and write a new one more representative of the multiculturalism of Canada.

    Flame away if you want, but I am one of those people who believe that, while everyone has the right to believe what they want, practice whatever religion they want, and speak their native language, I also believe that we must maintain some sort of historical significance to the Canadian experience or it loses it?s authenticity altogether.  

    To me the Canadian national Anthem is a symbol of something. If you mess with that, what?s next? These types of changes are not always about progress, the can take us backwards as much asthey can move us forward. It?s a slippery slope in my opinion and, while I support progress, it is not progress for the sake of progress...it must serve a purpose.

     

    Couldn't agree more Mel! 

  • Well said, Mel.

    I think it's a little bit ridiculous. That woman who said she's felt excluded by the line for 30 years is really taking it too literally.

    And I'd venture to say she never looked up "son" in the dictionary. My Oxford Canadian lists this as the third definition: "a person regarded as inheriting an occupation, quality, etc., or associated with a particular attribute (sons of freedom; sons of the soil)."

    It's another example of taking political correctness way, way too far.

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  • imageMelozia:

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    To me the Canadian national Anthem is a symbol of something. If you mess with that, what?s next? These types of changes are not always about progress, the can take us backwards as much asthey can move us forward. It?s a slippery slope in my opinion and, while I support progress, it is not progress for the sake of progress...it must serve a purpose.

    word.

  • imageMelozia:

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    To me the Canadian national Anthem is a symbol of something. If you mess with that, what?s next? These types of changes are not always about progress, the can take us backwards as much asthey can move us forward. It?s a slippery slope in my opinion and, while I support progress, it is not progress for the sake of progress...it must serve a purpose.

    word.

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