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What do you think of this, re Guardicil and Immigration?
ICE says that any female teen coming to the US must show proof of getting the HPV vaccine before they can get a green card.
I just heard about it on CNN, but I will try to find a cite.
What are your thoughts?
Re: What do you think of this, re Guardicil and Immigration?
Here is a link:
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/10/02/america/NA-US-Immigration-HPV.php
I am a runner, knitter, scientist, DE-IVF veteran, and stage III colon cancer survivor.
It's not about undocumented residents per se, it's about those who are trying to get a green card (so by default it probably excludes those w/out papers).
I think it is misguided only b/c I don't think we have done enough research on the drug to begin mandating it on any population. Plus, is there precedent in forcing certain vaccines on potential green card recipients?
My thoughts are that we dont need to make it even HARDER to come to this country legally than we already do. I understand needing to be vaccinated against certain things, sure, but to me this is overkill.
I actually worked for an org who was promoting require it for citizens, and several states already do, at least for school-age children. I'm definitely in favor of mandating HPV vaccination (so long as there is a parental opt-out), but I'm not sure how I feel about requiring it for residency or green card status. It would make sense for kids/young adults, but what about "adult" adults?
Note: I haven't read the article, so maybe they address these issue....
Because it hasn't been fully tested in men yet (trials are still underway). Further, the effects of HPV of females are far greater and far more destructive than its effects on males.
Once it's tested though, I'd fully expect it to be required of young men, as well.
I understand that, but I still think it's a clear violation of equal treatment under the law to require women to get a vaccine but not men.
I see what you're getting at, but I don't think the argument would work. And I don't think anyone's made it yet in any of the state's mandating it....
I can agree with you there. It's actually not been fully approved for use after age 26 yet. But I think before that, there's definitely reason to believe it would be beneficial. And as soon as the trials are complete for men, I believe it would be beneficial to have them vaccinated as well.
The school age thing is really just a way to get it mandated. Since we mandate school in this country, mandating a vaccination in order to get into school is the surest way to make sure the most number of people are vaccinated.
I think it has been approved for use after age 26, but insurance won't cover it because the likelihood of prevention goes down a lot after that (mostly because of marriage rate and having already contracted it by that age).
I am OK with mandating it for everyone. It seems silly not to. There are risks with every immunization, but there are bigger risks with the infection, IMO.
"As of page 2 this might be the most boring argument ever. It's making me long for Rape Day." - Mouse
Presuming that it has been thoroughly vetted and is safe for humans, I have zero problem requiring any immigrant to be vaccinated as a condition to citizenship.
Actually, no, the FDA's last approved age is 26. Not trying to be a b!tch, but this is what I spent six months of this year working on.
And ditto with the mandating it. I think I've mentioned on here that I was diagnosed with cervical cancer last year. Apparently I'm one of the "lucky' weirdos who got cancer without being infected with HPV, but the things I had to go through are the same things that someone with HPV would have to go through. And I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
My husband's brother is a pharm rep for Merck, and that's where I got my info. I was just going off of what he told me. Also, I remember my doctor saying I could get it past 26 if I wanted to pay for it, but I suppose I could be remembering wrong, since that was a few years ago.
"As of page 2 this might be the most boring argument ever. It's making me long for Rape Day." - Mouse
The thing is it's not JUST about cancer (thoughI think you'd be surprised at the chance of HPV becoming cancer in poor communities and communities of color based on a lack of access to health care and information about reproductive health). HPV infection causes a host of other problems as well.
It does?? I didn't know this. What else does it do??
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It just seems very strange to me that, of all vaccinations to require, THIS is the one they've come up with. Are there any other vaccinations required of green card holders?
I'm all for preventing cervical cancer (especially after having someone very close to me have multiple surgeries for it), but cervical cancer is actually not that common. It's not as though we have a huge epidemic and it's vital that people entering the country be vaccinated against it. Plus it's a fairly expensive vaccine. I don't know, this just seems strange to me.?
My biggest problem with this requirement is the difficulty of getting the vaccine. I only turned 26 in June, so I got it over this past year. (I figure that even though I'm monogomous, there's no guarantee that my husband won't get hit by a bus and die next year, so I might as well protect myself.) It was $300 PER SHOT. When I was on my mother's insurance (until I turned 25), they only covered it for girls uner 12. That just seems unnecessarily expensive to get a green card.
PSA:
I'm sorry that you had to pay for this. Merck will actually cover the cost of the vaccine if you are at least 19 years old, meet certain income guidelines, and you either (a) don't have insurance, or (b) have insurance but it won't cover the vaccine.
It's a little known fact, but it's true. If you know anyone else who wants to get Gardasil, but doesn't have the cash, direct them to:
http://www.merck.com/merckhelps/vaccines/qualify.html