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Closing of world's financial markets?

I just saw this on Drudge? 

Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi said political leaders discussing idea of closing world's financial markets while they 'rewrite the rules of international finance'... MORE

So, my question is-could this work?  It seems like it could and allow people to calm down, etc, and get some confidence back, but rewriting the rules?  That is that part I question more.

 

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Re: Closing of world's financial markets?

  • They need to do something. people are freaking out over here...much worse, from what i can tell, than the US (morale wise). Its insane. the papers are already calling today Black friday.
  • I agree that alot of it is hysteria. Reminds me of Atlanta's recent gas crisis. Sure we had less supply but the problem became worse when people felt the need to buy gas everyday.
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  • I'm surprised that some of the markets haven't already closed.

    ?

    I thought most had an automatic closing point if stocks fell too much too quickly??

  • imageMeredithE:
    I agree that alot of it is hysteria. Reminds me of Atlanta's recent gas crisis. Sure we had less supply but the problem became worse when people felt the need to buy gas everyday.

    It's almost all hysteria at this point.  The only cause for the plummeting markets at this point is people's fragile psychological dispositions. 

    I think that closing the markets is a very good idea.  It was done after 9/11 and served the US well.

  • There is a lot of panic going around, but the exchanges all over the world have rules in place that halt trading once a certain index drops 10% in one trading day.  I know Thailand and Iceland and Russia had to shut down their exchanges but no major ones, like the FTSE in London or the NYSE, have done so yet. 

    In all honesty, I have no idea what benefits and consequences making such a move would reap on the global economic system.  We are in unchartered territory at this point.  Perhaps it will ease some of the panic since there is a concerted effort by global leaders to figure something out.  However, all of the steps that the central banks have taken so far has yet to erase fears.  Right now I feel like we are in a self-fulfilling prophecy phase.  The fundamentals no longer matter since everything is driven by emotion, which is ten times worse IMO.

  • Sorry, I want to clarify that the 10% number I mentioned is only for the NYSE.  I assume it is almost the same for other exchanges but I am not 100% sure on that.
  • NPR rattled off several countries who had closed markets temporarily on my way in this morning, Iceland, Italy, a few others. Russia has haulted trading indefinitely.

    I really don't understand how investors - theoretically well-informed businessmen - can operate on such pure hysterics. These people are supposed to be smarter and more reasoned than me.

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  • imagejlaj617:

    Right now I feel like we are in a self-fulfilling prophecy phase.  The fundamentals no longer matter since everything is driven by emotion, which is ten times worse IMO.

    I 100% agree.

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  • Was that 10% limit put in place after 1987, or did that drop just happen so fast they couldn't shut down trading before it hit that point?
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  • Here's some more countries: Trading was halted in Austria, Thailand and Indonesia because of steep declines after the opening bell.

    In Indonesia, authorities have suspended trading indefinitely on the Jakarta Stock Exchange after the index plunged more than 10 per cent on Wednesday.

    Regulators in Russia have also ordered Moscow's MICEX not to open for regular trading and the opening of the RTS was postponed until further notice.

    In Vienna, the stock exchange has been suspended until midday after stocks tumbled 10 per cent at the opening bell.

    ETA: Home to just 304,000 people, tiny Iceland is emerging as the biggest casualty of the global financial crisis. On Oct. 9, the government took control of the country's largest bank, Kaupthing, and halted trading on the Reykjavik stock exchange until Oct. 13.

    MSNBC headline: Is This the End of American Capitalism? (way to inspire confidence!)

     

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  • imagePescalita:

    NPR rattled off several countries who had closed markets temporarily on my way in this morning, Iceland, Italy, a few others. Russia has haulted trading indefinitely.

    I really don't understand how investors - theoretically well-informed businessmen - can operate on such pure hysterics. These people are supposed to be smarter and more reasoned than me.

    You cannot separate emotion from money, regardless of all the training and experience in the world.  And remember, much of the sell-off is coming from individual investors pulling their money out of the stock market and stuffing it into their mattresses.

    The PP is absolutely correct - economic downturns (and upswings) are self-fulfilling prophecies.  When people feel good about things, they invest.  When they don't, they pull out. 

    I think Bush, et al., would have done everyone a service if they had not waited so long to speak to the nation about this mess, and if they spoke to us regularly.  People need a little handholding right now.  FDR didn't give those fireside chats because he had nothing better to do.

  • imagePescalita:

    ETA: Home to just 304,000 people, tiny Iceland is emerging as the biggest casualty of the global financial crisis. On Oct. 9, the government took control of the country's largest bank, Kaupthing, and halted trading on the Reykjavik stock exchange until Oct. 13.

    MSNBC headline: Is This the End of American Capitalism? (way to inspire confidence!)

     

    Didn't Iceland have to take a loan from Russia, too, and complain vociferously that its European allies weren't helping it in its time of need?

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  • imagePescalita:

    I really don't understand how investors - theoretically well-informed businessmen - can operate on such pure hysterics. These people are supposed to be smarter and more reasoned than me.

    Ditto this!

  • Apparently the White House said a market closure isn't going to happen.  From Yahoo News:

    White House says markets will stay open

    Mike Allen 1 hour, 17 minutes ago

    A White House official said the United States is not considering the idea floated by the Italian government of closing world financial markets in an attempt to restore stability.

    Bloomberg News quoted Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi as saying after a Cabinet meeting in Naples: "The idea of suspending the markets for the time it takes to rewrite the rules is being discussed."

    Bloomberg said he was talking about world markets, quoting him as saying that a solution to the financial crisis "can't just be for one country, or even just for Europe, but global.''

    A senior White House official tells Politico: "There are absolutely no plans or discussions to interfere with the functioning of markets in the United States."

    Bush meets Saturday at the White House with international finance ministers who are in Washington for the annual meetings of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund.

    Market losses continued Friday in New York and around the world. The New York stock exchange on Thursday suffered its largest loss since 1987.

    Bush said in the Rose Garden on Friday morning: "We can solve this crisis, and we will."

    All three broadcast networks interrupted programming to carry his remarks.

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  • imagecarolina00:

    Apparently the White House said a market closure isn't going to happen.  From Yahoo News:

    White House says markets will stay open


    This reminds me of Dana Carvey's Bush I impression - "Not gunna happen".

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