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Anyone up for some controversy?
It's really slow at work today.
So recently one of my cousins started this huge FB war with another one of my cousins about vaccinations. My cousin (K) has 2 boys that are austitic and she opted not to get her 3rd son vaccinated. Well cousin (B) didn't like that so now she won't let her child be around the unvaccinated child. So of course my family has taken sides on this issue.
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Re: Anyone up for some controversy?
If her child is vaccinated, isn't he/she safe around a non-vaccinated child?
I am for vaccinating, by the way, but honestly there is no way to protect your child against other children--you can't ask for their vax records on every single play date or places where the child is going to go...
It seems like she's punishing her child by not allowing her to have a relationship with her cousins. That's sad. I really wish your other cousin would look into delayed vaccine schedules/requesting preservative free vaccines.
I agree with this. M is vaccinated and like you said there is no way to prevent her from getting sick.
I understand why K feels the way she does and I think B needs to be more understanding (all of her children are vaccinated). K said that she has done research on vaccinations and thinks that her child will be fine without getting any at all. Her dr. even signed a waver for her son so he can attend school (since you have to be UTD on your vaccines).
This has recently become a sensitive subject in my extended family. Which is really sad because I think the kids are going to suffer the worse.
I agree. Your kid has the potential to be around unvaccinated kids all of the time - even in school. There are two families we hang out with who don't vaccinate for different reasons, and I don't really have an issue with it because my kids are vaccinated and could probably pick the same stuff up at Chuck E. Cheese or the park.
We are pro-vax, though we have followed an alternative schedule for Finn. It is so frustrating to me when people are convinced that autism has anything to do with vaccines. My cousin is moderately to severely autistic and he is a member of one of the aforementioned unvaccinated families, so his autism definitely had nothing to do with being vaxed. His older sister is also unvaxed and likely has Asperger's Syndrome, which makes me think that there is definitely a genetic component to autism (which would make sense in your cousin's case, too).
I agree about being exposed to kids who don't have all their vaccinations. I know there are kids at JJ's daycare that aren't all up-to-date on their shots for one reason or another, and we did an alternate schedule for JJ's shots (so he just got caught up).
These types of situations are upsetting, because it's not fair to the kids. I just hope the rift doesn't get worse as they get older...
I know I am new to this board, but I thought I'd throw in my opinion anyways.
I voted special snowflake. The reason is because I suffer from a disease called Ulcerative Colitis. In order to control this disease, I follow a diet called Specific Carbohydrate Diet. This diet not only helps those with colon diseases, but seems to have a great affect on autistic children as well. Ever since I learned this, I have done a little bit of research on autism myself. Some people believe that autism and other diseases like Celiac, Crohn's, etc. are due to putting 'foreign' substances in our bodies that were not intended to be there, for example vaccinations, pesticides, preservatives..... It's been discussed by scientists and others that study the human body that our immune system is a natural fighting agent and by trying to 'help' it with things such as vaccinations, we are only making the immune system weaker and causing the above mentioned diseases to progress.
However, this is simply an idea/theory. I do believe that eating things we shouldn't or putting in our body medicines that alter the immune system CAN make us sick (not always though). I don't believe this is the case for every individual. If I had kids, I would still follow through and get them vaccinated, but I would completely understand why other parents opted not to vaccinate their child.
It's unfortunate that your cousin will not allow her child near the un-vaccinated child. Then again, I don't feel she is being selfish since she is only doing what is best for her child. I don't think she should try and talk your other cousin into vaccination because her reasons for not doing so may have something to do with my above reasoning. If that is the case, then she is not being selfish for not vaccinating her child. She is doing what she thinks is best for her children seeing as the previous two are dealing with what could be the consequences of vaccination.
Sorry about the short novel, lol. This is a subject I am very passionate about. I hope things work out for both families.
See I think that's exactly it. I don't think one thing causes it. I do understand why she thinks vaccines causes it since both of her sons that were vaccinated and have autism but the one who did not get vaccinated does not have it.
This was my thought too..
Obviously I'm kidless, but when we do have one I will be pro-vac.
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I don't really have an opinion, but just wanted to share something.
What if your baby isn't old enough for certain vaccines yet, would you still let them be around unvaccinated children (if you knew they weren't vaccinated)? Or would you wait until your child got all of their vaccines before you let them be around unvaccinated children?
There was an episode of Law and Order: SVU (It had Hilary Duff in it, I think the episode was titled "Selfish") about a baby that died. They found out the baby died from Measles that she got from an unvaccinated toddler. The mom of the unvaccinated child was being charged for murder. I don't remember how it ended though. I just thought that was interesting.
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I think it's a personal choice. We didn't take M out when she was little since when she was born it was early Spring and it was still pretty chilly. We did take her to church after she had her first round of shots.