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What do you think?

Here are the facts:

Friend is 26ish, getting married in two months.  Had unplanned baby 2 years ago, really wanted to give him up for adoption but chose to parent.  He calls her mommy but her parents really raise him.  There is a lot more to the story but it doesn't directly pertain to this...

She is getting her tubes tied this week.

I think I kind of understand her not wanting to have kids but I think having the tubes tied seems crazy at her age and life stage.  What happens in 6,7,8 years when they decide they want kids. 

I know its her body, her choice but it still seems crazy to me. 

Re: What do you think?

  • Honestly, I think it's pretty much her prerogative. I don't mean that to sound harsh, but I just don't see how that's anyone else's business, I guess. 
  • I think it is alittle drastic especially being only 26 years old. I'm sure she and her FH has talked about kids and maybe just decided that they didn't want children?

    I have a friend who has 2 kids and married. She decided that she was done and had her tubes tied and then she got the baby fever again but ended up adopting.

    Maybe that's what they might decide to do? Personally I plan on having DH snip snipped when the time comes just for that very reason.

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  • Getting your tubes tied does not mean she can never have kids. My mom had her's tied after I was born and had my sister almost 5 years later. I say it her body and if she doesn't want kids then so be it. I also think you can go in and have it reversed if you deciede to have kids later; but I could be wrong.
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  • I'd say it's too early for all that. But, her body, her rules.
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  • imagebluekid:
    Honestly, I think it's pretty much her prerogative. I don't mean that to sound harsh, but I just don't see how that's anyone else's business, I guess. 

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  • I say this in the nicest way possible: What makes you think she'll change her mind in a few years? Not everyone wants children. I personally wouldn't have surgery now because I'm still agnostic about kids, but if I were certain I didn't want them, either DH or I would take surgical methods to prevent pregnancy. I have two girlfriends who NEVER wanted kids (since at least when I met them in the 4th grade) and two who are certain they have completed their families (and 1 and 2 kids respectively.) All four or their partners have either had tubal ligations or vasectomies.

    It sounds like she knew all along that she didn't want kids (wanting to give her 2 year old up for adoption.) Is it possible her parents talked her into keeping her son? In her circumstances (sure she doesn't want to be a mother) I think a tubal ligation is a really responsible decision.

  • imageamanjay:

    I say this in the nicest way possible: What makes you think she'll change her mind in a few years? Not everyone wants children. I personally wouldn't have surgery now because I'm still agnostic about kids, but if I were certain I didn't want them, either DH or I would take surgical methods to prevent pregnancy. I have two girlfriends who NEVER wanted kids (since at least when I met them in the 4th grade) and two who are certain they have completed their families (and 1 and 2 kids respectively.) All four or their partners have either had tubal ligations or vasectomies.

    It sounds like she knew all along that she didn't want kids (wanting to give her 2 year old up for adoption.) Is it possible her parents talked her into keeping her son? In her circumstances (sure she doesn't want to be a mother) I think a tubal ligation is a really responsible decision.

    As usual, amanjay, you're a wizard with words. I agree with every word you've said here. 

  • imagebluekid:
    imageamanjay:

    I say this in the nicest way possible: What makes you think she'll change her mind in a few years? Not everyone wants children. I personally wouldn't have surgery now because I'm still agnostic about kids, but if I were certain I didn't want them, either DH or I would take surgical methods to prevent pregnancy. I have two girlfriends who NEVER wanted kids (since at least when I met them in the 4th grade) and two who are certain they have completed their families (and 1 and 2 kids respectively.) All four or their partners have either had tubal ligations or vasectomies.

    It sounds like she knew all along that she didn't want kids (wanting to give her 2 year old up for adoption.) Is it possible her parents talked her into keeping her son? In her circumstances (sure she doesn't want to be a mother) I think a tubal ligation is a really responsible decision.

    As usual, amanjay, you're a wizard with words. I agree with every word you've said here. 

    Thanks, except that if I really had a way with words I could find a way to make the first question I asked "What makes you think..." sound un-assy. It's really not intended to be that way, but I couldn't find a way to de-snarkify it.

  • imageamanjay:
    imagebluekid:
    imageamanjay:

    I say this in the nicest way possible: What makes you think she'll change her mind in a few years? Not everyone wants children. I personally wouldn't have surgery now because I'm still agnostic about kids, but if I were certain I didn't want them, either DH or I would take surgical methods to prevent pregnancy. I have two girlfriends who NEVER wanted kids (since at least when I met them in the 4th grade) and two who are certain they have completed their families (and 1 and 2 kids respectively.) All four or their partners have either had tubal ligations or vasectomies.

    It sounds like she knew all along that she didn't want kids (wanting to give her 2 year old up for adoption.) Is it possible her parents talked her into keeping her son? In her circumstances (sure she doesn't want to be a mother) I think a tubal ligation is a really responsible decision.

    As usual, amanjay, you're a wizard with words. I agree with every word you've said here. 

    Thanks, except that if I really had a way with words I could find a way to make the first question I asked "What makes you think..." sound un-assy. It's really not intended to be that way, but I couldn't find a way to de-snarkify it.

    I had been thinking the same thing about the "when they want kids later" comment but couldn't think of a way to counter that without the snark, either, and so I opted simply for the Yes, lest I start any drama (again). Haha.

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  • imageamanjay:

    I say this in the nicest way possible: What makes you think she'll change her mind in a few years? Not everyone wants children. I personally wouldn't have surgery now because I'm still agnostic about kids, but if I were certain I didn't want them, either DH or I would take surgical methods to prevent pregnancy. I have two girlfriends who NEVER wanted kids (since at least when I met them in the 4th grade) and two who are certain they have completed their families (and 1 and 2 kids respectively.) All four or their partners have either had tubal ligations or vasectomies.

    It sounds like she knew all along that she didn't want kids (wanting to give her 2 year old up for adoption.) Is it possible her parents talked her into keeping her son? In her circumstances (sure she doesn't want to be a mother) I think a tubal ligation is a really responsible decision.

    I agree. It irks me when we have friends that make statements such as, "oh... once you have kids or settle down you will really want them." Every person/couple is different. In the end everyone is not a mom/dad or should be one. I honestly think it is a smart to make changes now rather than procreate and leave the child with the parent again. 

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  • To each their own of course, but as someone who wants children I can't imagine doing that.  But I guess if she didn't really want a baby 2 years ago, she probably won't want a second one in the future.  
    However, my bff wanted to get her tubes tied after her second baby but instead decided her H would get a vasectomy.  He had his consult, then she told him to forget it---now they're thinking about having a third.  
  • imagetbvenable:
    Getting your tubes tied does not mean she can never have kids. My mom had her's tied after I was born and had my sister almost 5 years later.
    This isn't very common though, right?  Generally speaking, getting your tubes tied does mean no more babies.
  • It seems pretty young to have your mind made up, but I guess it's her choice.  It certainly wouldn't be mine, considering I'm extremely on the fence about kids.
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  • imageBoyMom21:
    I'm extremely on the fence about kids.
    On the fence??  So you're sayin' there's a chance....Wink
  • I guess I should have worded the statement what IF she changes her mind in a X years. 

    I understand that kids are not for everyone, I have a few close friends that will never have kids.  With the lives they live I totally understand and respect that choice.  Being a parent is not for everyone.   

    I really just wanted to see what other people thought about the procedure being done at her age.  She tried to have it done when baby was born but doctor said no way, too young.  She changed doctors so she could do it now.  Her FI wanted kids when they first met, I just worry that this is a choice that should have waited a bit longer.  She has the Mirena (sp) so I am not really seeing the rush at this point, if I remember correctly those are good for 5 or so years. 

    I am glad we can all be civil and disagree/agree about certain things.  It make the board interesting. 

    amanjay, I didn't take snark out of that comment... :)

  • I personally wouldn't do it but then again I would rather she not have children if she doesn't want them. I mean I do know a couple who were married for 20 years and never wanted children and then at 42 they had their one and only child...so it does happen.
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  • What concerns me is that her FI wanted kids when they met and now he doesn't. Whose to say HE won't change his mind down the road?

    But again - her body, her choice. DH will get the snip, snip.

    He just doesn't know it yet.  Stick out tongue

  • imageamanjay:

    I say this in the nicest way possible: What makes you think she'll change her mind in a few years? Not everyone wants children. I personally wouldn't have surgery now because I'm still agnostic about kids, but if I were certain I didn't want them, either DH or I would take surgical methods to prevent pregnancy. I have two girlfriends who NEVER wanted kids (since at least when I met them in the 4th grade) and two who are certain they have completed their families (and 1 and 2 kids respectively.) All four or their partners have either had tubal ligations or vasectomies.

    It sounds like she knew all along that she didn't want kids (wanting to give her 2 year old up for adoption.) Is it possible her parents talked her into keeping her son? In her circumstances (sure she doesn't want to be a mother) I think a tubal ligation is a really responsible decision.

    I agree with this response.

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  • Before DH and I got married I didn't want kids at all.  As I got older I changed my mine.  I can't imagine ever getting my tubes (haha, not like it would matter) tied because I don't think I will ever be able to say 100% for sure that I am done.  I'm surprised she would be able to find a doctor who would do it with her being so young.
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