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The eco-friendly childless
Okay. I can understand lots of reasons for not having children. I can even understand that you think it's better not to procreate because the world's population is getting out of control. But I cannot understand, as a rabid environmentalist, allowing yourself one long-haul flight a year, because you have chosen to live a vegan, childless lifestyle. It's not a simple trade-off. If you're still going to jet all around the world, it's time to stop trying to justify your decision not to have children by saying you're doing it to save the planet.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-495495/Meet-women-wont-babies--theyre-eco-friendly.html
Re: The eco-friendly childless
Well, having a child uses WAY more resources over time than taking a long flight every year, so it's not illogical. I don't see it as a trade off, either, so I think justifying it that way is kind of stupid. But I think it's a very good reason not to have kids.
We kind of think this way, actually. Brett struggles with whether we should have any biological kids period. I'd like to have one, and if we want any more after that adopt. But the planet certainly isn't supposed to handle 7 billion humans living the way we do now, and we don't want to add to that problem.
The nerve!
House | Blog
I started feeling this way after I read the Oil Crash blog one day and didn't sleep for a week. http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
I'd rather adopt but my H wants at least one of our own. We'll see. We both go back and forth about the whole thing as it is.
I bet her FUPA's name is Shane, like the gunslinger/drifter of literature.--HappyTummy
I feel like it is very sensible to not have kids if you don't want them. It does positively impact the environment, among other things.
I would love to adopt all kids we'll ever have, but I know Twan wants one bio kid at least. I'd like to adopt the second.
As for the oil crash, I am going to move close to work (and future potential employers) for our next house. And get enough space to grow a garden. Fo shizzle.
"As of page 2 this might be the most boring argument ever. It's making me long for Rape Day." - Mouse
Whether or not you personally have a child won't make much difference in the overall population. The western world already has a very slow, in some places negative, growth rate. If it weren't for immigration, we wouldn't be growing (which is why the loonies screaming about the US being too full are really screaming about it being too full of brown people.) Making sure women in poorer countries have access to education, birth control and basic rights makes a much larger impact. Helping with that means sacrifice and thinking about others though, not patting yourself on the back and saying you deserve a treat.
I'll spare you my rant about why casting environmentalism as "some people shouldn't exist" is just dumb.
"The meek shall inherit the earth" isn't about children. It's about deer. We're all going to get messed the fuckup by a bunch of cloned super-deer.- samfish2bcrab
Sometimes I wonder if scientists have never seen a sci-fi movie before. "Oh yes, let's create a super species of deer. NOTHING COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG." I wonder if State Farm offers a Zombie Deer Attack policy. -CaliopeSpidrman
Mouse, it's true that the Western world already has low population growth. But probably the single largest thing we can do to reduce our effect on the environment is to decide not to have a child. Unless we have a child who goes on to invent a wind powered car or something.
I don't think making that decision means you deserve a cookie or a vacation to South Africa. But I don't think it's a stupid decision either.
I totally agree with you on education and birth control.
The nerve!
House | Blog
Maybe it's because I'm a collectivist at heart but I think getting away from "what can I personally do?" (or worse "how am I personally screwing up?") and toward "what can we as group do?" is going to reveal more, and more effective, solutions.
Not that we shouldn't take individual actions (recycling is a community effort, but I'm the only one who is going to stand in my kitchen rinsing bottles). I just hate to see something as private as choosing whether or how to have kids listed along with recycling, solar panels and car pooling.
I know I've linked to Slacktivist before, Fred's been discussing the current political climate that makes gov't action seem ineffective vs the WW II generation that did so much in such a short time; and how that effects the green infrastructure we should be building now. (Numbered posts in particular, he's off in a few details like the reliability of wind power, but the spirit is spot on.) It's really got me thinking.
"The meek shall inherit the earth" isn't about children. It's about deer. We're all going to get messed the fuckup by a bunch of cloned super-deer.- samfish2bcrab
Sometimes I wonder if scientists have never seen a sci-fi movie before. "Oh yes, let's create a super species of deer. NOTHING COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG." I wonder if State Farm offers a Zombie Deer Attack policy. -CaliopeSpidrman