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my work dilemma... just venting...

I have a boss I really like.

He used to have a boss who I like, but she can be scary. I've worked with her for about 5 years.

She took a bigger job elsewhere in the company, but still has broad visibility into our world. 

She really likes me, except I have had two "strikes" with her.  In both cases, the "strikes" are because she got blindsided by something without being told about it first. 

The first time, my boss didn't seem to get it that he should tell her. We both got a talking to about it.

The second time, I told him way in advance, and multiple times, "you need to tell your boss about this. We don't want a repeat of last time".   He forgot.  She was bullshxt and really let me have it (and I was just the warm up for letting my boss have it).  I had told her that I'd told my boss to tell her, and she made a comment like, "Your fingers work, too". She reminded me (as if I needed to be reminded) that she almost never gets mad, and she was furious.

Now, we're up against a simliar situation. TECHNICALLY, she's not his boss anymore, but she's in a larger role and if she finds out about it, will flip.   I told my boss 2 days ago, "I think you should let her know".  He agreed.  We talked about it again just now, and he said, "I'm going to tell her on Monday".    I said okay, but I also said, "If it happens again, I'm pretty sure she'll fire me."  He didn't say no, because I think secretly he thought, "No, she'll fire me."

I am so afraid that he'll not get to it before she finds out about it, and I'm sitting here typing to YOU instead of to her, but he told me he'd do it. 

So, who the heck knows. 


 

 

Re: my work dilemma... just venting...

  • If you're concerned about your job, and he has a track record of not saying something, get your fingers to work girl!  Just make it known that you want her to know and don't want to go over his head, but this situation has happened in the past and you don't want a repeat.  If you have a respectful relationship with this woman, it shouldn't be an issue.  Just make it known that you're not trying to go over his head, you're just trying to be proactive and protect yourself.
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  • I know you like him, but if you are not 100% sure he told her when Monday comes, you better do it or you might have a bunch of nesties in her office on Tuesday morning .

    Okay really, I know it sucks but I am willing to bet you are very good at what you do and should not get fired for something like this, tell her if he doesn't.

  • I would say something just to cover bases. I usually send a quick "just want to make sure it got to you." email to my boss' bosses. Even after I've watched her send them an email. Not cause I'm going behind her back, but because we both know things get lost and over looked. I'd rather them hear about it a million times than not at all.
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  • I think that, after my meeting with my boss and the other person in the organization this involves on Monday morning, I'll reconvene with my boss after and try to get at what his plan is, and express my concern.  He respects me and knows that neither of us want to be on the receiving end of the wrath again, so I don't think he'd stand in my way of it, but I also don't want to him to feel that I am discounting him.

    Thanks guys -- I'll update next week. 

     

  • Oh, that's a terrible dilemma. Do you think she might find out about it over the weekend? Do you think your boss is going to tell her on Monday for a strategic reason or just b/c he didn't have a chance to today? If there isn't a strategy reason and she might find out this weekend, I would probably fire off a simple (but descriptive!) email asap as a "heads up."

    Do you even have work on Monday? 

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    Oh, that's a terrible dilemma. Do you think she might find out about it over the weekend? Do you think your boss is going to tell her on Monday for a strategic reason or just b/c he didn't have a chance to today? If there isn't a strategy reason and she might find out this weekend, I would probably fire off a simple (but descriptive!) email asap as a "heads up."

    Do you even have work on Monday? 

    Yes... we have work monday. :-(

    No -- she won't find out over the weekend...  the person who *would* tell her doesn't know yet...  but he *might* learn it on Monday.  

    I'm not sure why my boss isn't going to tell her until Monday, other than the notion that he feels he needs to be REALLY prepared with details before telling her, and he thinks he won't get that until Monday. That's my best guess...

     

  • It sounds like you have a good plan, then. Let him have a chance to do what he said he would, but CYA shortly afterward if he hasn't.

    Good luck!

  • I'm going to trust your instinct on this one, but if I've learned anything from my POS boss, it's to CYA.  And sometimes even though you need to follow chain of command, you may have to skip a few people on that ladder.

     

  • If it were me, I'd talk to my boss about presenting it together. Mkae it a team effort, even though you might have to be the one driving it. I'd probably even offer to draft the email myself. That way he gets a little support in what seems like a scary situation, and you get to know that your a$$ isn't about to get chewed.  

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