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Voting and ads

I just thought I'd toss this out there...

I agree with what Bev said below about it being particularly important for people to vote in this election.  I just wish that all people who vote would take the time to really figure out what exactly they're voting on!

For example, there's an initiative in WA state...a "yes" vote will create the first-ever state income tax.  The ads asking you to vote for it point out that only the "richest 3% in the state will have to pay anything."  Only people who make $200,000 or more a year ($400,000 for a married couple) will have to pay the tax.  The ads for this initiative say "the language of this bill ensures that the income level for this tax will never be changed without a vote of the people."

What these ads don't say (and which the ads against only briefly point out) is that the language of our State Constitution (which supercedes any initiative) allows the state legislature to change the terms of any initiative measure after two years with a simple majority vote in the legislature.  So after two years, the people in Olympia could vote to extend the income tax to everyone in the state, and there would be nothing people here could do to stop them.

I have a bad feeling this initiative is going to pass...and within a few years, we'll all be paying a state income tax.

Any ads/lies in particular driving you nuts that you'd like to vent about? Smile

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Re: Voting and ads

  • My problem with the ads is that they confuse the heck out of me! That's why all the paper ones we got in the mail went straight to recycling. The newspaper published a special a few weeks ago with info about all the candidates and initiatives that was really in depth and easier to understand. This is my first election that I've voted in and it was more confusing than not! There are a few clever commercials out there. There's a pretty good one comparing a bunch of stuff one of the candidates for governor has said to what Schwarzenegger has said and they're identical phrases. It's amazing how everything they say is the same and I'm impressed that someone put that together
  • There are 2 here that the opposing party is telling lies (mostly dint have their facts right). One is the governor race and one is a senate seat. The news has actually been good about getting the right facts out there and I think it actually makes the one who told the wrong facts look sorta dumb and sorta made me think why should I vote for them when they can't get their facts right now, what will they do when they get elected.
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  • The one here that drives me nuts is about our local congressional candidate. The opposing side has an ad pointing out how he filed for bankruptcy a long time ago, insinuates he's an idiot with no idea how to handle a budget, and how he "walked out on his responsibility." What they don't mention is that he learned from his mistakes and is now a multi-millionaire. I'd say he's figured out the budget thing.
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  • It's always so important to do your own research. Can't trust any of the ads from any party!

    One of the proposed ammendments on the ballot in GA reads as follows:

    Shall the Constitution of Georgia be amended so as to make Georgia more economically competitive by authorizing legislation to uphold reasonable competitive agreements?

    Sounds great, right? Well when you do the research to find out more about it, you find out that it means you cannot leave one company for another job in the same industry. For example, I work for a mortgage company. Obviously this is a hypothetical situation, but if I were to find another job at another mortgage company (for more money, closer to home, whatever the reason), I would not be allowed to leave my current job for the other one, if this bill passes. This would only apply to companies that make their employees sign a contract when they are hired, however, passing this bill would give employers that option. Talk about scary government control!!!! And funny how they are able to word things to sound oh so nice and pretty!

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  • imagethebevmeister:

    It's always so important to do your own research. Can't trust any of the ads from any party!

    One of the proposed ammendments on the ballot in GA reads as follows:

    Shall the Constitution of Georgia be amended so as to make Georgia more economically competitive by authorizing legislation to uphold reasonable competitive agreements?

    Sounds great, right? Well when you do the research to find out more about it, you find out that it means you cannot leave one company for another job in the same industry. For example, I work for a mortgage company. Obviously this is a hypothetical situation, but if I were to find another job at another mortgage company (for more money, closer to home, whatever the reason), I would not be allowed to leave my current job for the other one, if this bill passes. This would only apply to companies that make their employees sign a contract when they are hired, however, passing this bill would give employers that option. Talk about scary government control!!!! And funny how they are able to word things to sound oh so nice and pretty!

    Yikes, Bev!  That's scary!  Like you said, employers can make a person sign a non-compete agreement when they're hired...but isn't that usually more for contractors?  I know DH had to sign one of those when he worked for his last company, and we were worried that he wouldn't be able to take his current job because of it (but his former employer is a completely reasonable man who understood why the switch for good for DH and me, and he had no problem with it).

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    imagethebevmeister:

    It's always so important to do your own research. Can't trust any of the ads from any party!

    One of the proposed ammendments on the ballot in GA reads as follows:

    Shall the Constitution of Georgia be amended so as to make Georgia more economically competitive by authorizing legislation to uphold reasonable competitive agreements?

    Sounds great, right? Well when you do the research to find out more about it, you find out that it means you cannot leave one company for another job in the same industry. For example, I work for a mortgage company. Obviously this is a hypothetical situation, but if I were to find another job at another mortgage company (for more money, closer to home, whatever the reason), I would not be allowed to leave my current job for the other one, if this bill passes. This would only apply to companies that make their employees sign a contract when they are hired, however, passing this bill would give employers that option. Talk about scary government control!!!! And funny how they are able to word things to sound oh so nice and pretty!

    but isn't that usually more for contractors? 

    Nope, they can have any employee do it. A lot of employers have more hard to fill positions and upper level management sign them already.

    Usually they have a time limit on them - like within a year of leaving them. I know DH's company has hired people that have signed them for other companies and they have paid the person for the time period that they couldnt work for them just so that they would take the job!  

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  • The ad driving me crazy in PA is for Senate. One guy running compares his opponent to his dog's poop. I couldn't tell you what platform he is running on because that is not in any of his ads, but I know what he thinks of his opponent!

    I HATE ALLLLLLL the political ads this year.

  • Always remember, dont believe everything you hear.  DH is super smart about politics and the facts and has even called Chris Matthews out on a few fibs/lies.  People will say anything to get you to believe what they want for their "side."

    Another thing, say you always vote for one party for everything.  Well, in my area a republican is Jean Schmidt, blech.  I dont like her, or the things she has done so I skip that category on my ballot.   So, in other words, just bc you are democrat/republican, think about the candidate from your party before you vote.  If you dont agree- then dont vote for that category (or vote opposite!).

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