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f/u Job Update
Still nada.
Although I called last Friday to the director's assistant and she said they haven't met yet, and didn't know at the moment of a timeline to meet (although they supposedly have every intention of hiring as soon as possible).
Question 1: Do I call today and ask to set up a phone meeting/conference with the director for this Friday to try and get a straight answer?
Question 2: Would you ever offer hiring on a trial/voluntary period to prove you're a worthy candidate?
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Re: f/u Job Update
OK, please do not take this the wrong way. I'm NOT trying to be mean.
But this whole thing sounds a little like that "he's just not that into you" thing. I would just back off and focus on other opportunities. If they want you, they will get in touch with you.
What kind of job are you looking for? Do you have access to a career counselor? Are you taking a hard look at your resume and reordering your qualifications to match the job descriptions when you apply?
Again, I'm not trying to be mean or cold, I just think maybe it's time to play hard to get, if you know what I mean.
Ouch.
I mean, I do understand where you're coming from with the analogy, but this really is how higher education works. It takes forever to get a straight answer out of anyone. I'm worried that I've been too passive in the past (read last year's attempt to get a job in Pittsburgh) and as a result, I'm living with my inlaws. And like Cassie has mentioned in the past, calling and following up has the strong potential to show continued interest in the position (where others may have taken the "hard to get" route).
Regarding jobs I'm looking for.... I'm looking for academic advising, career counseling, orientation, retention issues/programming, athletics. I have a degree in college student personnel... this is what I'm qualified for. My biggest obstacle is that I'm ONLY looking in Pittsburgh. It's where we live, we're not moving.
The other difficult thing is that it's the middle of fall semester and nobody is going anywhere, regarding leaving their jobs. I've missed the cycle. Things might pop up at the beginning of spring semester, or even the beginning of the year when additional monies might open up.
Do you follow my blog? If so read my latest saga... ha.
I know how you feel. Applying for a job in higher ed is different than anywhere else. Every time we open a position in our office I have people emailing and contacting me inquiring wanting to "get in." <insert> eye roll.
I think if I was in your position, I would just sit back and just let things happen for this job and let them contact you. You have put forth so much effort already, I would just wait for the next email or phone call from them and keep looking in the mean time. You don't want to be too over zealous(sp?) Have you looked at high schools or private schools? Claire gave me that idea a while back, and I have def been researching it more, I'd love to be the college counselor for highschools, sounds crazy... but of course I would need another degree to make that switch. In theory though... you get my point!
I have to agree with Claire - if they are interested, you'll hear. While hiring in higher ed can take f.o.r.e.v.e.r. they do typically call back the canidiates they want after they get around to doing the interviews. There's a position in my office going onto its third set of interviews because no one has fit the bill (third set of 3 first rounders).
I completely understand how frustrating it is, but I think you need to write this one off.
ETA: There's no harm in a little resume tweaking...I try to shimmy mine around a little to match what I'm applying for (eg, asst. dean of freshmen versus assoc registrar for data management). not that this has been spectacular for me though, seeing as I'm going into my 4th interview in 10 mo of looking an at least 40 apps (half of which I'm qualified for)
Yup I have. And I'm not qualified- in PA they're super stingy (sp?) about who they let work in their in their schools (go figure). And yes, I have thought about another degree... what's another year, right?
But I spent the weekend with my football players from last year, and fell right back in love with the challenges and frustrations of working with them. It's so completely rewarding and fulfilling, it's where I'm supposed to be. Have you ever had that feeling where you know EXACTLY what you're supposed to be doing with life?
And you know what... I was a follower of your blog, and then it went private (and I forgot that I can't read it in google reader.... oops!) Link please.
Higher Ed is SO frustrating. I know exactly what you are going through. I worked at a university before my current job. Hiring takes forever because they want ten million people to sign off, and I feel like they are really bad at cutting you lose once they make their decision. I remember interviewing at a lot of schools and going back and forth with them being like "oh, we're going to make a decision in a week, call us on Fri if you have not heard from us" and I would do it and they'd string me along further.
I think you do need to find the happy balance between showing them you're still interested and also playing it cool. It could be they really do want to hire you but they have to interview x number of people first or something.
What about private High Schools? They don't always have the same rules as public schools and maybe you could at least get on there as a substitute and that would be a way to get your foot in the door and meet people. You seem qualified for that or advising/tutoring at that level.
I also totally feel your pain on the timing - it is hard right now and most colleges do their searches/staffing in the spring and summer, so I know where you're at.
Could you do this?
Or this one?
What about this? more tutoring less career, but could be a fit.
I lied... it's a Director position... not a counselor position. There's no way in the world I'm qualified.
I think you should apply for this. Make an arguement you are qualified with your education despite not being an RN. I can't imagine any decent nurse would work for that kind of $, much less an MSN. they are dreaming.
this might want more expeirence but can't hurt to apply
how do you feel about housing? might be better than the basement (i couldn't do it thoug)
is pittsburgh really cheap? because I'm underpaid, in my opinion, and these pay scales are really low...